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#4312572 Shit players who cry about Kidneyshot.

Posted Regent on Today, 12:13 AM

If you defend 43 minute kidney shot, I just assume you are retarded or 1200.


#4312374 Hunter POM Sheep

Posted Azyos on Yesterday, 09:31 PM

It really needs to fucking go, fuck hunters. Most retard friendly class since '08


#4312371 Your most hated ability ingame

Posted Dills on Yesterday, 09:29 PM

View PostPouncedd, on 22 December 2014 - 09:11 PM, said:

Imp Dispel / Hand of Sacrifice / Mass Dispel / Decurse on Mage / Poison dispel on anything other than a healer.

Dps having any type of dispel should be gone.

I disagree honestly, those things make the game unique. Maybe hand of sacrifice and imp dispel are a little strong currently, but mass dispel what? That ability has so much counterplay to it... Having to cross CC in some match ups is way more interesting than just mindlessly spamming all cc into the enemy teams healer.


#4308663 Such a low amount of things I can do...

Posted Nahj on 20 December 2014 - 08:26 AM

View PostFreshlemons7474, on 20 December 2014 - 08:21 AM, said:

I wish ability pruning never happened outside of symb.
Or almost anything they brought into MoP like shroud. Aoe stealth is dumb.

All that needed to go was instant CCs and extra trinkets. Not crucial mechanics like fel flame/disarms.


#4308141 Hunter POM Sheep

Posted Melbyz on 20 December 2014 - 01:06 AM

I don't understand how people don't mention hunter passive healing, I play with NV and I play a hybrid, Moonkins/SPs are perfect examples of successful healing nerf, perfect for the game, but whenever I face a fucking hunter they seem to do 2-6 times my healing pfft. You got faint death and camouflage to interrupt spells casted on you, and on top of all this bs you got 60% speed buff from disengage and a 12 sec cd on trap. I my opinion for a trap to be 12 sec cd it should only last 4 secs, thats a fair trade.

While at it, why does monks, dks and locks still have double trinkets?!

17 sec AMS?

Warlocks locking down whole fucking team cuz sacking shards is hard?

Double sac, bop and freedom hello?!


#4307322 Hunter POM Sheep

Posted Lloix on 19 December 2014 - 02:09 PM

Every thread turns into a dilly vs. glinks thread now its kinda funny or maybe sad. I don't know why you both feel the need to get so worked up on a Mongolian image board. Is there some backstory (besides the points you've both beaten into the ground at this point) that I could be filled in on?


#4307049 Hunter POM Sheep

Posted Raak on 19 December 2014 - 10:40 AM

Come on guys, lets hug it out.


#4306563 Hunter POM Sheep

Posted Wallirik on 19 December 2014 - 03:53 AM

I have found that a very good way to counter this relentless faggotry of a class, is to stack 2 or 3 people exactly on top of each other, in the back of your starting room corner, while attempting to outdps the hunter teams heals.

gl landing ur traps now scum

ps. ofc this only works if it's a hunter comp that doesn't do unhealable dmg (lol), or has aoe fear.


#4306350 Hunter POM Sheep

Posted Lightningx on 19 December 2014 - 12:24 AM

Why do hunters have a 12 seconds POM sheep?

Mages had a 1.5m POM sheep and it was deemed too OP and removed from the game

???


#4306323 Shit players who cry about Kidneyshot.

Posted Braindance on 19 December 2014 - 12:03 AM

View PostVaneesh, on 18 December 2014 - 09:21 PM, said:

You could debate Killing Spree being unpeelable, but the average single-target damage of a Combat Rogue is completely fine considering Rogues have almost no AoE utility and definitely have no split pressure.

Also consider that Combat does its damage in very predictable windows (Deep Insight) and only when Killing Spree is up, which is every 1 to 1.5 minute.

It's a "have to play the spec to understand" kind of thing. (And for the record, I'm not defending the current state of Combat. I'd like it gone as much as the next guy).
I am very sorry to tell you, but no. The average damage is not fine for the following reasons:
  • Best mobility in the game because of BoS

  • You have an 8 second stun (extendable to 12). So 8/20=40% of the time ur target is stunned

  • You still retain all the utility of sub minus dance. You can still BoS restealth cheap shots etc
Your dps should be half of that of a dk/warrior, not equal. If you want to have the same dps, then your stun should be 4 seconds, BoS has a 5 second cooldown, and you can only restealth with vanish.

I don't care about killing spree, since that's what rogues should normally do. Shit dps and good burst every minute or so.

Currently rogues, are no less braindead than s5 rets (I don't say dks because that cannot be matched). Train train train train.

View PostMaumaux, on 18 December 2014 - 11:23 PM, said:

Nerf Bladestorm and Crystal also cant cc it or stop it. I just want to be able to stun a Rogue again when he dances so he's completely useless, that is how it should be. If you cant stop someone's finisher it has no place in the game at all.
Yeah bro dat damn doe bladestorm that you can't feint and it does 11k hits that you can outrun with BoS.

Damn so OP.

And that poor crystal that you can't kill or you can't outrun with BoS.

I will give you a tip to gain 400 more rating.
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#4304307 Shit players who cry about Kidneyshot.

Posted Hidden on 17 December 2014 - 05:34 PM

View PostAzyos, on 17 December 2014 - 05:13 PM, said:

Deathknights & Ferals say hi

You gotta be pretty damn bad to get solo'd by a Feral. Counter his Berserking / Incarnation with your CDs then enjoy 2.5 minutes of wet noodle damage without MS or good lockdown. The only way a Feral is putting out any pressure on his own when his CDs are down is when he successfully interrupts on CD so his Tiger's Fury is constantly reset through the PvP bonus.

As for DK: Maybe if stars align? Haven't played mine this addon but I can't recall my healer ever dying to one 1v1 in 2s (at 2.2k MMR first day of the season) before like 40% dampening.

View PostMaumaux, on 17 December 2014 - 05:25 PM, said:

Haven't ran into Rets yet? Stun Bubble wings, cant be cc'd and retard damage. But Rogues have to be nerfed. 1 Ret does the damage of 2 rogues combined lol. I haven't done the math but...

Rets can't solo any semi-decent healer. They have strong burst and good utility but they're reliant on their 2 minutes burst CDs (see: same CD as trinket, same/higher CD as many defensive cooldowns) and have much lower lockdown compared to Rogues as well as no MS.

Just to clarify here, I'm not saying the game is balanced outside of Combat Rogues whatsoever, but I get the feeling most if not all players defending that spec are completely delusional to what state this game is currently in.


#4303023 RLD/Combat Rogues/Locks

Posted Seu on 17 December 2014 - 01:19 AM

View Postzzatbrah, on 16 December 2014 - 12:00 PM, said:

this event is the sole reason wow died as an esport

pretty off topic but wow was at its height as an esport when that happened and still getting bigger numbers than halo by close to triple

mlg tried really hard to push wow as an esport but blizzard was very resistant, charging bigger and bigger fees to broadcast and refusing to give decent support (spectator client etc)

it was dropped at the peak of its popularity because blizzard essentially killed it. jp mcdaniels talked about it a bunch a couple years back


#4303002 Shit players who cry about Kidneyshot.

Posted Narthypoo on 17 December 2014 - 12:51 AM

View PostLord Xar, on 16 December 2014 - 11:58 PM, said:

1. It is 24seconds, not 20. If you try to kidney within 20seconds it will be DR'd -- learn the game please

2. It is dodged, parried quite a bit, it does not have 41% update -- learn to statistic


Stop crying, and look at the ladders - it isn't flooded with combat rogues at the highest levels.. you know this. There are alot of combat rogues but that is because that is the ONLY viable spec.

C'mon, grow up.

1. Its 20 seconds. I understand the way DR works. Now that Rogues have CP that stick to them and not their targets, it's completely viable and oftentimes commonplace for a Rogue to 8s Kidney someone, then when it's off CD they 8s Kidney someone else (like the person who is peeling the Rogue off of their healer - or the healer if they're on a different target).  Learn the game please.

2. If you're having your Kidneys parried, you should probably spec out of the abomination that is BoS and into something like Step so you can be behind your target before you try to land a stun as important as Kidney.  Either that or you should get a little better at the game instead of blindly Kidneying into someone regardless of what way they're facing.

View PostLord Xar, on 17 December 2014 - 12:01 AM, said:

I find this funny because I never see you mouth breathers crying in the other forums at obviously OP classes saying how you want to be able to tell how great a charactere is being played... BUT you are insinuating that only Reckful/woundman/generic level rogues should be placed.. all others should accept their shit specs while the OP classes are given passes by you.... dip.

I'm not saying that at all, and it's funny that's all you got out of it. Across every arena season (and beforehand) there has been a relatively large skill gap between a really great Rogue and one who is mostly mediocre. Things like pooling energy, saving Kick (when it was on the GCD), Prep Kicking for a kill, Vanish immuning CC, etc (there are loads of other examples - these are relatively simple). Even back to the days of Happyminti or Dahis in Vanilla where Blinding an off target then Vanish - Sapping was new-ish or the need to take Improved Gouge to get a restealth off.

That goes and extends all the way to recent seasons, with a few outliers where it was a much less skillfully rewarding class to play. I'm not saying only Reckful level Rogues should succeed. Reckful level players will succeed regardless of what they queue (for various reasons). I'm saying that right now, with Combat the way it is and an 8s Stun CC that doesn't break on damage and has a 20s CD - There is a much larger cushion for you make mistakes. And even though I'm sure there are a decent amount of Combat Rogues on the ladders that are playing well, you don't necessarily have to play well as Combat to succeed. That's something everyone who cares about the PvP environment should be firmly against.

I'm done responding to people who obviously have zero idea what they're talking about.


#4301319 Shit players who cry about Kidneyshot.

Posted Wallirik on 16 December 2014 - 02:32 AM

View PostMaumaux, on 15 December 2014 - 10:30 PM, said:

6 second kidney while dancing you cheap shot after it wears off that it 9.5 and if you cheap again that is 12 seconds.
You are the kind of person that defend this shit mechanic.

Maybe come back and post when you got the hang of the absolute basics of the game.


#4300641 Shit players who cry about Kidneyshot.

Posted Wallirik on 15 December 2014 - 06:57 PM

dunno if anyone mentioned it but people seem to think that rogues got 8sec kidney in MoP?
well combat rogues had 8sec kidney in cata too, wasn't just in mop, so they're right when they say it's been like that for a long time.
in s13, throne of thunder 2set:
(2) Set : Increases the duration of your finishing moves as if you had used an additional combo point, up to a maximum of 6 combo points.
so as combat then it was 9.45 sec kidney

maybe people can try this now? dunno if last expansion set bonus is active in arena lol =))

combat was just insanely slow in cata, and sub was infinitely better so ye.




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