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#4212238 2014 NA Regional Drama Wrap-Up

Posted Regent on 18 September 2014 - 11:54 PM

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Since there has been a lot of drama recently, I figured I would make a TL;DR thread for those of you that have successful real lives and can't sit on ArenaJunkies 24/7.

The North American Regional Qualifiers:
  • Hosted by ESL (the same company that organized the holocaust)
  • 2800 players qualify but only 50 Teams signed up
  • No seeding and random placement meant some popular teams eliminated each other right of the bat
  • Zero interaction with Blizzard, even after the ESL website wasn't working
  • People suspect Blizzard will be asking for some of the money they paid ESL back, since ESL apparently completely forgot that they were supposed to hold this tournament
Vanguards team gets knocked out because of a "no-show":
  • Timestamp does show that Vanguards team was almost 30 minutes late to their match
  • They claim they had no idea the time they were supposed to play
  • Poor organization and almost no help from ESL admin, many people think they didn't deserve the loss
  • Vanguards, being the least confrontational person in existence, made a nice forum post saying how he is slightly angry that he missed out on a chance for $40,000 USD
Jah's team gets knocked out and tries to get back in on a technicality, twice:
  • Claims his first loss was not actually the "real" game and only practice
  • Screenshots show his team agreeing it was the real game
  • Some people claim that after his second loss he tried to contact tournament admin and get it changed
  • Talbadar is "disappointed" in jah
  • Jah, unsurprisingly, calls everyone "retards" and hasn't been seen since
Wizk's team cheats and has other players, not on their roster, play:
  • By far the biggest drama generating event of the tournament
  • Wizk, Jakenotezz, and Random rogue decided to play RPS in tournament
  • Upon tournament brackets coming out, they realize they will have to fight comps that are strong against them
  • Wizk realizes that it would be too obvious to ddos his opponents, he determines he will have to come up with another way to cheat
  • Wizk replaces his rogue and rsham with an rdruid and mage who are not on his team roster and then wins multiple games (it is assumed that the mage was played by, "Piecez," and the druid by, "Rynd")
  • People (obviously) realize what is happening and he gets disqualified for cheating
  • Wizk then cries, makes a 40 minute video about why he didn't cheat, no one believes him
  • Jakenotezz, then makes a post on AJ admitting that they cheated, apologizing, and says he only did it to bang his 18 y/o e-girlfriend when he goes to New York
  • Wizk then claims he is too good for this community
  • Wizk locks in his spot next to Xandyn in the "top 5 scummiest wow players of all time"
  • Randomroguex is mad that no one knows who he is, doesn't understand the concept of why cheating is bad, and is apparently a part of some "elite cheaters club"
Multiple teams Disqualified after the tournament ends based on their geographical location:
  • Apparently it was easier to allow these people to play in the tournament and then disqualify them after they won
  • Raises multiple questions about the outcome of the tournament, since the teams who got DQ'ed knocked people out of the tournament
  • The dominant team of Jeff, Barry, and Twochainz is rumored to be one of the teams DQ'ed
Avangelyne proves he is really weird:
  • Made multiple weird posts about having a girlfriend
  • Multiple awkward tweets involving, but not limited to: old memes, obscure Norwegian cover bands, and History channel TV shows
  • All of this is okay though, because according to him, he "has a lot of friends"
Former 3rd place Blizzcon team, "PvP Live" replaces healer the night before qualifiers:
  • but apparently forget to tell him he is off the team
  • Famous monk, "Dannycarey" is replace by other famous monk, "Verdantstorm"
  • Novoz and Thugonomicz imply that Dannycarey is part of something (Illuminati?)
  • Dannycarrey still hasn't run out of mana
  • Surprisingly, Glinks didn't cheat or try to ddos anyone
  • Nice work, Glinks
World of Warcraft PvP Designer, "Holinka" no where to be found:
  • A week has gone by since his last sighting
  • Police have decided to end the search
  • His family stays hopeful
Arena Junkies:
  • Datacus tries really hard to get some free rep, fails miserably
  • For the first time in over a year, people are capped out on giving rep
  • If you point out any scummy things that friends of the moderators have done, you will be getting an infraction
  • Flavour is still making stupid posts
  • Dillypoo's insults have been getting noticeably better over time, possibly hitting puberty soon?
  • Bigmoran tries to dispel ddos rumors by threatening to ddos anyone who talks about it
  • Thugonomicz believes that Arenajunkies.com is actually "Horse cocks"
  • Bailamos dropped in to insult Jakenotezz for having an e-girlfriend, the irony is palpable
  • More wintrading in EU, no one is surprised
  • The "scummy dozen" continue to rep each-other in an attempt to make it seem like they have some community support
  • Ayra is still black, and still european

#4210969 Apology to everyone

Posted Takenotezz on 18 September 2014 - 04:48 AM

Hey, i'm Takenotezz, also known as Jake to many people. I played RPS in the ESL tournament with Roasty and Wizk. Wizk and I have had the highest RPS in the world for the last 3 seasons; with Smooch(Jahmilli) , Roasty, and Pikaboo. Although our comp isn't too strong, especially in a tournament setting, we decided to play it anyways. Our very first matchup was against a 2500 Monk TSG. This comp is a direct counter to RPS. We beat this team , a long with many other higher rated Monk TSGs on live. We felt confident in playing vs them, and we won 3-0. Our next matchup was against Mw monk, Ww monk, Destro warlock. This comp is also what seems to be a direct counter; anyone who PvPs at a high level and understands RPS's weaknesses/strengths would see why, We ended up losing 1-3. Keep in mind this team was not eligible to qualify; the ww monk (steven/balance) and the destro lock (ald/poutineboy) did not meet blizzard's blizzcon requirements. This sucked for us, because we faced two direct counters in our first two matchups, even though we won the first matchup, it still was very unlucky. We are now in the losers bracket, and face a destro MLS , which we destroy very quickly. Score ended up being 3-0. Our next comp to face was Monk Beast Cleave, which is also a direct counter to RPS. We actually stand 0 chance vs a decent Monk Beast Cleave. Once again, anyone who PVPs at a high level understands why. So at this point, it was obvious we were going to lose, because even if we beat Tosan/Twosticks/Diggles Monk Beastcleave, our next team to face was Glinks/Lifebloom/Mendi's Monk Beastcleave. Glink's team was better than Tosan's, and we would lose vs Tosan's team. I accepted the fact that we were going to lose, and the next day when we were scheduled to play, this idea of running godcomp into them came up. I was not okay with this at all, at first. Anyone who knows me could say that I would be the last person to be associated with something like this.  For those of you who don't know, I've been dating an amazing girl who I met via WoW/Twitch named Elizabeth. I'm crazy for this girl, she's crazy for me. (I mean who wouldn't?) We met online, so distance is a huge problem for us. She lives in Maryland in the middle of nowhere, and I live in San Diego, California. We have met in person twice, once when i flew to see her in Maryland for a week, and the other when she flew to California to be with me for 10 days. Anyone who has been in a serious relationship knows how hard it is to be far away / not able to see your significant other for a long period of time. I havent seen her in about two months. I'm only 18 and I dont have loads of money to be able to see her as much as I would like to. When I found out that regionals were going to be in New York, and that if I went I would be able to see her, I wanted to do whatever it took to make that happen. If was a free trip to see the girl of my dreams who I've been missing so much. The next time I was supposed to see her was blizzcon, so this would be an oppurtunity to see her a month before blizzcon, for free. I agreed to playing godcomp on our team so that we could easily make it to regionals so that I could get what I wanted, to see my girlfriend. What I did was extremely wrong and unfair, but Elizabeth means a lot more to me. We played godcomp and easily won and made it to regionals. I felt awful after we had won; it was cheating, there was tons of posts/drama, people were mad at me, etc. Although we cheated, I think that specifically Wizk deserves to go to regionals more so than the teams that would have gone if we would have lost. Wizk is the best spriest in the game currently, and has held #1 priest all season long. Any top rated player can agree with this statement. Even though tons of people dislike Wizk, everyone will admit that he is extremely skilled. I feel that our team had a much higher skill level than the teams that we had to face to make it to regionals. (the two monk beastcleaves + the godcomp) Although this is true, we cheated and should definitely be disqualified. After the posts/forums blew up, a lot of my friends messaged me asking for details and other things, but If I wanted to see Elizabeth, I would have to keep quiet. This was the hardest thing for me, everyone calling me names, me losing the respect of many people/players, our team being frowned upon. I wanted to tell everyone the reasoning behind why I thought playing godcomp was acceptable, but I couldn't. We ended up getting disqualified, which sucked at first because there goes the opportunity to see Elizabeth, but it was also a relief because all the stress was going away. Here is where the apologies come in.

First off, I want to apologize most importantly to Chanimal, also known as Adam. Adam has been my biggest inspiration in WoW, I love him as a player, I love him as a person. I feel like I let him down the most; he messaged me asking why I allowed what happened to happen, and there was nothing I could tell him. He is one of the coolest, nicest, funniest guys I have ever met; IRL and online. I apologize to you Adam, hopefully this doesn't change much.

Secondly, I would like to apologize to Jahmilli. Jahmilli was accused of playing the mage in our godcomp, and took so much disrespect from people in his stream. People automatically accused him for doing something that he took absolutely zero part in. What happened caused a reaction and ended up with Jahmilli losing fans and the respect of some of the WoW community. Along with Jahmilli, I want to apologize to Tease. Tease knew Jahmilli had no part in it, and had to see Jahmilli getting accused of doing something he didn't do. She was, I imagine, directly affected by the whole ESL tournament as well because of the actions occurred with my team. I apologize to you.

Next I want to apologize to all the players of the tournament who were affected by what happened with team Jake'n'Bake. Pikaboo, (one of the coolest guys on WoW, really funny, rogue prodigy, I've always wanted to impress/play with, I'm also low-key his biggest fan) Snutz, Venruki, Cdew, (all players who I have always watched/looked up to/wanted to impress/be liked by when I first started playing) Dillypoo, (a really close friend of mine who is just a all around great human being. have enjoyed playing/spending a lot of time with him) Tosan (never really got to know him, always been a fan of his old PVP movies, feel like we are on a bad note currently) Glink (Glink is one of the most fun guys to play with; always a positive attitude, loves to mess around, known him for a while and we have been known to be great friends, hope we still can be) The godcomp we played for the last spot in regionals (don't know any of them, but they deserved a fair chance to regionals, which they did not get.) Novoz's Team/Vanguard's Team ( both teams with extremely skilled/known and respected players, when they heard about what was happening with our team and us making it to regionals, was very unfair for them)

Next is all of twitch/wow community/my fans/friends who weren't mentioned. Sorry for letting you down, this will never happen again. I just hope that anyone who doesn't know me won't judge my character based off of this one event, I hope everyone can look past this and accept my apology.

And I last want to apologize to Blizzard/ESL for saying that this is by far the most unorganized tournament ever. Very unprofessional, poor foundation, little to no admins to help with unanswered questions, rules / whole way the tournament was ran was absurd.

Sorry to everyone, hope that this clears everything up and that people can look past what happened, thanks for whoever read this.



Posted Talbadar on 18 September 2014 - 05:17 AM

Just caught this thread tonight. First, while I'm not surprised based on all of his past posts I find it rude that you, Iskaral, still bash all of the "popular" players just because you can. I remember that whole Snutz deal with Pookz and Toez and they definitely did get hacked and it seemed like they got their accounts back awfully fast, but they still made it to regionals fair and square after (it was never confirmed if anything shady happened with restoration anyway). The ONLY game they played 2v3 was against my team as we were the main team trying to stop them from making it. Cdew had a legitimate disconnect against them in some of the final moments of the TR when his internet had been shitty all week.

I'm glad to see Snutz made a video to give some insight into this whole thing because without playing in the actual tournament it's hard to know what happened. I'd like to throw out there that Cdew/Snutz/Venruki are outstanding members of the community that play the game fairly. They have NEVER cheated in any tournament or qualification to my knowledge and that says something when playing with and against them for 5 years. They have even waited for my team during disconnects multiple times in finals worth thousands of dollars.

Not enough has been said about Vanguard's team. I would've liked to see his team be given the same second chance that the 9-12 teams had and I know if there was a tournament realm instead of this wacky tournament they would've made it without trouble. Esp. after coming really close to making it straight to Blizzcon last year it's annoying to see him get completely shafted.

As for the disqualification: with all of the complaints going into this and with how poorly the tournament went I would've been baffled if they didn't check into things this time around. Still disappointed by the lack of supervision from Blizzard over the tournament. Feel like Holinka was on vacation or something during the tournament because as soon as Vanguard's tweeted that the tournament had no admins there should have been some response. Just from watching a couple VoDs I was pretty certain who was playing the mage and druid on Wizk's team.

Also disappointed in Jahmilli for causing a lot of trouble on his own not only for this tournament but the whole season. I haven't played too much of it as a lot of people know, but his nonstop and nonsensical hatred for certain players like Vanguards, Venruki, and Cdew is just unacceptable. I disliked Vanguards myself at one point because "god he's just a ret with shadowmourne trying to kill me", but jeez that was so silly and so long ago. I know he can be a better community member if he tried, but I'm not sure he'll ever change his ways.  Just my two cents.


Posted Woundman on 18 September 2014 - 01:07 AM

I know a lot of people are really upset with ESL/Blizzard/DDOS'ing, but please try to keep things civil. This is a pretty sensitive subject because of how the players were treated (can't blame you), the more constructive, the better. Thank you <3


Posted Nmplol on 17 September 2014 - 10:15 PM

View PostWizkx, on 17 September 2014 - 08:41 PM, said:

nah man its totally legit after 2 teams that are good friends with higher up blizzard employees dont make it in my team suddenly comes in to question and then is DQed because blizzard felt like it. without providing any proof of any accusations or telling me what i was dqed for. AND to top it all off a few days before im dqed i was shown logs of novoz saying he will be personally responsible for me being disqualified. his words were somewhere along the lines of "as dumb as it sounds i play this game all day and im not gonna have some shithead go to blizzcon over me". but yea im sure it was a totally legit reason had nothing to do with any of this dont worry (:

you probs got dq'd cuz ur extremely racist (especially  to vanguards) on stream. Why would they want someone like you representing them at any nationally publicized event. This is good. Knock ur ego down a bit.

#3920513 Season 13 Title Calculator

Posted anad1o on 31 July 2013 - 01:37 AM

View Postmoojerk, on 31 July 2013 - 12:41 AM, said:

I have tried submitting several various 0 or extremely low rated 3s teams for bloodlust US, and it accepts my submissions, but it never updates.

can you pm me the links to that teams? i'll check what's wrong and fix the problem asap.

UPDATE: problem seems to be fixed, US-Bloodlust cutoffs should now show properly!

#3919671 Fuck off, wizard cleave and Blizzard

Posted Athlete on 29 July 2013 - 09:40 AM

View PostMarshmellow, on 29 July 2013 - 06:56 AM, said:

What was that noise at the end
hope this helps

#3875365 Mages

Posted Pigboy on 15 April 2013 - 12:01 AM

View PostBraindance, on 14 April 2013 - 11:46 PM, said:

With the major difference that what you call cds have 1+ minute cooldown compared to no cooldown.

Pretty sure the mage popped his 3 minute CD, got incanters ward,1 minute Frozen Orb, and on-use. If shaman didn't get peeled or trinketed then of course he's going to die, just like to any class that popped every CD in the game. What else is he gonna trinket within the 2 minutes? You cant die solo from a mage that doesn't pop their major cooldowns, you only drop to 30-40% if unpeeled depending on the rng of the crits. The thing about mage damage is its really predictable and can be stopped pretty easily by a good team, the reason low levels complain about it so much is they aren't very aware of class mechanics and what is happening in games.

#3874271 Razer Comms, the new possibly Skype solution?

Posted Woundman on 12 April 2013 - 08:34 AM

Dusknoir is either trolling (which has been pretty successful so far LOL), or he simply can't grasp the concept of "backing a product", if you understand what I mean.

Anyways, just gonna quote Thaya. This whole discussion is nonsense. I can't believe anybody defends Skype, which are too lazy to even handle contact requests server side, and Java, which has always been the laughing stock of security.

I see no harm in Hotted posting a potential Skype alternative for gamers. If anything, it's beneficial for the community because DDOS'ing is a problem. Preventing a DDOS is very simple for a home-user, unfortunately a lot of people don't know how to prevent it. The more "anti-ddos" VOIP programs, the better. One of them will get it somewhat right eventually. :)

Edit: Typo

#3872410 Fixing RBG should be a top priority

Posted Thaya on 08 April 2013 - 12:40 PM

I've wrote about this in replies before, but I think this issue deserves a thread of its own, just to raise awareness. "RBG killed Arena" is a common opinion in this community, and while it has some truth in it, you all should realize one thing: RBG won't go anywhere. This thread is not a rant about RBG itself, and I don't want it to become one - please don't post about how you hate RBG if that's all you have to say.

So, hypothesis: RBG matchmaking/ladder issues are negatively affecting Arena PvP.

I'd like you all to take a look at this:
EU RBG ladder: http://eu.battle.net.../battlegrounds/
US RBG ladder: http://us.battle.net.../battlegrounds/

These rating ranges are much more inflated than they are in Arena, where the absolutely highest teams with the most ridiculous winratios are 2.6k - and there's only 7 of them in EU and US combined. This is both due to how the system itself works, and a number of exploits and workarounds that existed or still exist. A result of this is that reaching, say, 2.2k in RBG is easier than reaching 2.2k in Arena - even past the extra logistics, and even if we forget about the exploits and workarounds. 2.2k is viewed as a trivial RBG rating, while 2.2k in Arena is a challenge. It's human nature to choose the easier path, and this is where Arena suffers.

On top of that, RBG has a better Conquest cap formula that everybody complains about; even if you remove the bonus formula, doing RBG is still much more profitable due to its inflated ladder. I like the analogy with 10 and 25 man raiding. The difficulty is almost the same. World firsts for 10 and 25 man are only a few days apart, if not the same day. 25 man drops extra loot, which is a fine bonus for the extra effort organizing it - just as the extra Conquest cap from RBG is totally fine, but only if the difficulty is the same. (PvE had this exact same issue at Cataclysm release when 10 and 25 started dropping the same ilvl loot, by the way, it took Blizzard at least two tiers to balance it out.)

This is what we should complain about. Fix the RBG system (some of the exploits are so trivial, it makes you wonder why it takes so long to fix them), reset it to wipe the inflated ladder, and try to keep RBG:Arena ratings similar. RBG will stop killing Arena once it stops being a much easier alternative to get gear, for all the wrong reasons.

Something that bothers me and everybody else since MoP, what is up with the capping system? You can cap the last bit only and exclusively via RBG. Even if you play RBG before playing Arena, those Conquest points you get from the RBG wins will count towards the Arena cap if it's still available. So, a situation like this is fully realistic:
1) You play and win a couple of RBGs;
2) You play and win a couple of Arenas, reaching the maximum Arena cap;
3) You now must do more RBG in order to finish capping, because the RBGs you did in "1)" went into your Arena cap, not your RBG cap. You're now confused why the hell it says you didn't earn any points via RBG this week even though you did.

Is this really intended? I thought the idea was to have two separate caps, just counting towards a shared maximum. Like it was in Cataclysm.

Also, wins in random BGs used to go into either cap, so you could finish capping via random BGs. I don't really mind if this was intentionally removed, but it makes no sense to me.

Edit: this really screws up 2v2, by the way. All the high rated PvPers rush to get their arena cap done on tuesday/wednesday after reset, which makes lower rated players really suffer. Lots of people saying they keep meeting Gladiators at 1700 MMR in 2v2 - official forums are full of these complaints, you can open just about any thread. You can also check streams on reset days to confirm it yourself. It's standard practice by now. Not healthy for the game.

#3861504 wtf is this gear disparity

Posted Tosan on 14 March 2013 - 07:46 AM

View Postkannetixx, on 14 March 2013 - 07:00 AM, said:

that is the entire point of this season they said it from the get go why are people honestly even surprised?

they rewarded players who stuck with the game despite it being worse and worse .. if you think that your honor gear should be better or even close to my 2/2 upgrades with the amount of conq / time i spent putting into it you should probably just go back to not playing anymore.

Cool you want to come back thats awesome - grind it like the rest of us until you get tyrannical.

Do you really have so little confidence in yourself that you desire an item/stat advantage?  I never understood this mentality; stating you don't think people should start a season on an even playing field is almost exactly the same as saying "I want every unfair advantage I can get to compete because I'm not confident in my ability to play better than others to win".

Maybe that's just me.......


  with the amount of conq / time i spent putting into it

My favorite part........as if it cost you something to get that.  Conq / time?  Conquest points are something you get from simply playing the game, which you are doing for fun in the first place; you'd do it without a reward as long as you can play arenas, right?  

And "time".......you'd be spending that regardless, it's not like you invested it specifically for an advantage, you spent the time playing arenas for fun anyway, the gear came along as a free additional prize.

You act like you bent over backwards to get 2/2 upgraded gear, when in reality you just got it for free for doing something you were already going to do.  

Always baffled when I read comments like this tbh.

#3861501 wtf is this gear disparity

Posted Conradical on 14 March 2013 - 07:33 AM

View Postkannetixx, on 14 March 2013 - 07:00 AM, said:

if you think that your honor gear should be better or even close to my 2/2 upgrades with the amount of conq / time i spent putting into it you should probably just go back to not playing anymore.

I don't understand this argument. Why would you want to just dominate people that can't compete at near the same level? Do other competitive games force you to be stuck behind for months before you are finally able to do a fraction of the damage of the people that played in the previous season?


Cool you want to come back thats awesome - grind it like the rest of us until you get tyrannical.

Your Tyrannical grind is going to be MUCH easier than those that started again this season.

#3858076 5.2 - new resilience formula?

Posted Eldacar on 06 March 2013 - 07:53 PM

Here is an early draft interactive graph comparing Resilience and Effective Health in 5.2 vs 5.1. A cleaned up version of this will be in the revised guide.


The basic analysis is that Blizzard was dead on with their explanation, effective health returns from resilience in 5.2 are perfectly linear. Anyone with less than 10k Resil should see a slight bump in effective health from the patch, anyone with more should see a slight loss. Going forward Resil will still be a great, lucrative stat, just not the exponentionally valuable super-stat it was before at higher levels.

P.S. The effective health listed in that graph is a percentage relative to displayed health, so 300 would mean effective health is 300% of displayed health.

#3856805 How Reckful got carried to his second R1 title this season

Posted Bigmoran on 05 March 2013 - 01:33 AM

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#3856361 How Reckful got carried to his second R1 title this season

Posted andysc on 04 March 2013 - 11:50 AM


Fact of it is, you're dealing with people that have been doing this for nearly 5 years. Speaking as someone who has experience, they don't view it the same way that you do - if you're even telling the truth. To them you're a random Duelist and I know if I saw you on the top spot anywhere, I'd assume that transferring there for the title was worth my time and money. People are going to do the most shady thing imaginable at the very last second when it comes to getting R1 no matter how many times they've gotten it before.

Kollektiv especially is like a literal wizard at stuff like that. He can compile lists of players, keep track of them and coordinate queueing and who he queues into at a literal professional level. It wasn't possible to compete with him back in the day on Vindication for those precise reasons. Literally, an Asian wizard who instead of spells casts an omniscient presence over all teams who might queue into him.

When you're dealing with people like that(especially people who are being paid thousands of dollars to complete a R1 boost) you need to be willing to do anything to compete with them. Your bench simply isn't deep enough. There's no point in getting R1 if you can't hold it, and they're not going to leave a team sitting at #1 for no reason.

There's only one way to become champion: never fucking lose. If you really deserve R1, you should behave like a true legend. Draen for example would series anyone who'd be foolish enough to face him, and queued every day even though he was risking potential 30 point losses and gaining 1-3 points per grueling, sometimes risky win. Eventually closing out the season 150 points above the next team who had no such recourse to take, no one could say anything to him. That was the definition of a closed battlegroup.

If you were really the best, you'd spam queue and get R1 no matter what. Unfortunately nobody who plays this game any longer is that good/that lucky to have their class fit into a good comp, so your only option is to do what they know they must do: cheat the system. These people have been doing this for long enough to get a degree in it, and they're better at it than you are.

Let your inexperience serve as a lesson: R1 isn't over until it's over. If you truly feel you deserve the title and the glory, perhaps you should find a way to make yourself immune to these actions next season. As for selling R1, this community is completely dead and there's truly no harm in it. I don't think you should pretend it bothers you so much.