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#4373816 Is Holinka the worst thing that happenned to WoW PvP ?

Posted Kelarm on 27 January 2015 - 04:16 PM

View PostRegent, on 27 January 2015 - 07:54 AM, said:

Any form of Competitive WoW is gone, and will never happen with the current setup at Blizzard.

They obviously have zero interest in creating a competitive environment, and even if they did care they have no one working for them that could facilitate the necessary changes to make it work.

Obviously?  I don't think it's that obvious.  In fact, I don't think it's even accurate to say.  The way they're doing balance now seems to take a page out of the book of other competitive games (league) where balance changes happen frequently and in small numbers.  This stands in stark contrast to how blizzard has approached balance in the past, and could easily be them making an attempt to make their game competitive.  Then you have their "end of year" 2014 post, with this section in it:

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The new War Games skirmishes feature allows anyone to run an online tournament, and we’re excited to see even more community-run tournaments in 2015. We’ll of course be running tournaments with our eSports partners as well, and will release details as those plans are finalized. As you saw at the Arena World Championship, we’ve come up with an improved UI to help viewers better follow the action, but we’ve been working on a complete overhaul for next year—with the goal of making it widely available for use in player-run tournaments, partner tournaments, and online casting. We hope to be able to share more soon.

Which is a massive deviation from the bullshit stance they've taken in past years of "we don't encourage it as an esport, people want it to be but we won't let it".  To say they've obviously got zero interest in making WoW competitive is seriously overreaching IMO.  Looks to me more like they actually somewhat want it to be but just suck at it really badly, as would be expected.


#4372976 RBG Tournament: Battle of the Atlantic Worlds Reveal Show

Posted Korzul on 27 January 2015 - 02:34 AM

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#4373324 RBG Tournament: Battle of the Atlantic Worlds Reveal Show

Posted Structural on 27 January 2015 - 05:13 AM

this is literally worse news than the ebola epidemic


#4370891 i demand you all exploit this right now

Posted Jinngofagswag on 25 January 2015 - 01:08 PM

View PostForumz, on 25 January 2015 - 12:26 PM, said:

Baby deer are called fawns. I thought I'd let you know.
ty, need it for my essay


#4372964 Is anyone having fun?

Posted Syia on 27 January 2015 - 02:18 AM

It's easy to burn out on arena. There are stupid comps every season. People think each subsequent season is the "worst ever." I think taking a break from the game (or just arenas) is important if you're just getting frustrated whenever you play.


#4372622 Is anyone having fun?

Posted Kettu on 26 January 2015 - 06:37 PM

Why would you play a game which you don't find fun?


#4372898 Is Holinka the worst thing that happenned to WoW PvP ?

Posted hoodrych on 27 January 2015 - 12:26 AM

o nvm


#4372508 Is Holinka the worst thing that happenned to WoW PvP ?

Posted Capstone on 26 January 2015 - 04:44 PM

View PostAvengelyne, on 24 January 2015 - 05:03 PM, said:

He is a SENIOR game designer that has been with Blizzard for just over 2 years.
i see a lot of people have posted this sentiment and are under the impression that because he is not able to directly apply changes to the game immediately he is a diligent worker singlehandedly trying to shovel water off of the titanic, while kotick and co. grind deeper into the iceberg of RMTs and hunters

if you understand the universe of information that is arena and the arena community, though, and compare it to the information he's operating on, it is truly impossible to think that holinka (or to my knowledge, most blizzard developers) are adequate.  if you were to confront holinka right now and ask him about a handful of the most important things about arena, how much light would he be able to shed? how many of your questions would he even be able to respond to with a level of accuracy that a random guy you meet who is telling you about powerleveling his leatherworking at his garry couldn't match?

let's take a sample of questions:

immediate issues with abilities and mechanics of classes that are most salient right now (right now, this is resto druids): this is an issue he'd be able to respond to with some accuracy from sponging information from high rated players

increasingly homogenized kits (despite claims of wanting to separate from this for years) and abilities that are totally non-interactive and counterintuitive (ice nova is a good example): i can't imagine a good answer to this question - i can't envision any scenario where any developer is able to adequately respond to the question, "why was ice nova ever in the game?" but you could chalk this one up to inertia, which i will tentatively accept

rampant cheating on ladders: i'm sure we're all familiar with the number of people who cheated (ddos, wintrade, etc.) last season, and i know most active players are aware of at least a handful of them. there are at least 40 cases where someone cheated for a rank 1 title last season alone that are practically common knowledge in the arena community. despite increasing the amount of time before titles were distributed, somehow practically nobody got reset. if i know, you know, most of the high rated players on this board and a significant percentage of the arena community as a whole (your everyday twitchgoers) are aware of the kuiloxes of the world, in what universe is the head of pvp development and communication doing an adequate job if he isn't also aware?

sales, etc.: here's another big one. i personally don't care about sales, i think if someone wants to buy a carry that contract is between them and the seller, but it's another common knowledge issue that's extremely easy to detect just buy checking their pvpratings graph or using your brain. most of the time, the people that buy the carries get reported by their jealous friends and presumably blizzard sends out an investigative team of GMs who eventually throw their hands up in the frustration of not being able to crack the sophisticated planes trains and automobiles code. still, an entire aspect of arena that largely goes unnoticed by the only group with any authority

the game is openly mocked by the people who abuse the system the most in the most public of venues. kaska played at the last blizzcon

if you consider the percentage of the high rated community who is aware of the most significant problems with the game mechanically and structurally, and that the lead developer is supposedly a paragon of communication through his twitter (which at this point may as well just be an alternate social media booster for the buffalo bills), it's kind of astounding how little information actually seems to be communicated

i also see a lot of people claiming changes are being made more rapidly than before. this was not my experience. i couldn't disagree with this more, really. the crossrealm arena individual ladder change was a great change they made in the middle of MoP. it was immediately followed by one of the longest seasons of all time, which was truly a full, 100% extension of the previous season with zero changes, totaling over a year of the same game. every pvp developer could have hypothetically not come into work. as i remember, changes were made much more frequently and responsively a long time ago

attached is a real screenshot i took less than a minute ago when i visited holinka's twitter

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i can only imagine the confusion of someone who just started playing the game digging through those pictures of tony romo and plants trying to learn about which direction the game is going and emerging even more confused than they entered


#4372103 Is Holinka the worst thing that happenned to WoW PvP ?

Posted Breadstick on 26 January 2015 - 03:26 PM

View PostROKMODE, on 26 January 2015 - 11:53 AM, said:

yeah I agree as a whole it was zzzz
A lot of that though was the retarded rules+no timeout mechanics (dementia, dampening, etc), which you kind of need unless u go for the TBC style where people oom easily. +x2/x3 baubles on every team except the random chinese teams and orange marm's team (who used skeleton key and sindragosa fang for w/e reason)

Just reread the thread, and lold
james dies at 20:03 while enigmz is in a cc chain for more than 3 seconds. I guess he "gave up," but I'm not sure if he had the means of keeping him up if he trinketed anyway unless he had NS/bauble. Pretty dark time in history and easily of of blizzard's biggest fuckups. They were also told  to keep playing afaik before James died as well, which should have really been the final word.

Coupled with playing the last match on ring of valor.
If Soda had geared like AT priests do now with shit tons of mp5, he wouldn't had to scramble so much lols

reckful said he partially blames himself for the win being taken away from col because he had the opportunity to try to convince the admins that since col was in the process of going for a kill the time rules weren't in effect, but he didn't try (apparently the rules were kind of like stoppage time in soccer where if a team is attacking in the opposing team's half when stoppage time is supposed to end the ref uses his judgement to let the game go on for a short period to give the attacking team one last chance at a goal)


#4371728 Is Holinka the worst thing that happenned to WoW PvP ?

Posted Thaya on 26 January 2015 - 12:10 PM

i remember all the people trying to justify not using inner fire as if its intentional

gotta think like the best man


#4371719 Is Holinka the worst thing that happenned to WoW PvP ?

Posted Thaya on 26 January 2015 - 12:02 PM

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#4371497 Is Holinka the worst thing that happenned to WoW PvP ?

Posted Lolflay on 26 January 2015 - 05:20 AM

View PostROKMODE, on 26 January 2015 - 05:05 AM, said:

lol I like how that's what you got out of that video , assuming the timestamp worked
never change lolol

Everyone hated his guts back then, this video brought up those memories :D


#4371485 Is Holinka the worst thing that happenned to WoW PvP ?

Posted Knaittiz on 26 January 2015 - 04:53 AM

View PostLolflay, on 26 January 2015 - 04:51 AM, said:

Wow, snutz was a ugly fuckin' kid.
take that back

don't diss my idol


#4370966 1/22 NA Representation Stats

Posted Raak on 25 January 2015 - 03:44 PM

View PostNaraga, on 25 January 2015 - 03:32 PM, said:

This feminist "Everyone is a winner!" sh!t needs to stop.

What the fuck does that attitude got to do with feminism?


#4370642 1/22 NA Representation Stats

Posted Wutangrza on 25 January 2015 - 01:05 AM

View Postbighandxyz, on 23 January 2015 - 10:51 PM, said:

I just go on armory and filter 2600, below is what I got.

DK - 14 results
Rogue - 16 results

Didn't bother to check rest. Your stats doesn't seem to be correct

What is with this spec/dps/heal representation. Whatever happened to the good old class rep?

They are percentages and they change over time as the ladder changes. So if there are 200 people over 2600 and 5 ret paladins, rets would have a 2.5% representation over 2600.

It doesn't make much sense imho to do "class rep" as classes that have both healing and damage specs will likely (and should) have higher representations since they can fill multiple roles.

Some people are interested in knowing "role" representation since a hunter changing from BM to SV is less significant a change than say a feral druid going resto. Moreover, if you don't combine the DPS specs, it can make some classes look under-represented when they really aren't. For example, pretend each mage spec had 6% representation, it might, at a glance, seem like mages are middle of the pack, but certainly an almost 20% representation for a DPS would be quite high.




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