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Posted Railander on Yesterday, 11:32 PM

View PostGlink, on 17 April 2015 - 09:35 PM, said:

You don't seem to understand, see the actual difference is I acknowledged the retarded things about my class while you and most other people are  on their high horse thinking there is some class hierarchy here. Do you know how silly that is? This isn't a skill or barrier of entry issue, you can macro all hunter damage 1 spell? Umm well you can, sounds like a terrible idea though. Oh, but mages have literally 3 damaging abilities including ice nova. 3.

Even if you want to make the claim that mage is harder to play or more complicated, that still has no justification on flawed mechanics and gameplay.

People put casting on such a pedastool but its actually so delusional to do so. You have to cast, yeah, and there is no CD. Oh, and here are the things you have to poly out of (depending on comp): deep, fear, hoj, bash, cheap shot, kidney, etc. in other words to get poly off all you have to do is yell at your partner to horrify/hoj/bash/fear while you deep -> poly. Its same principal for hunter cc in many cases, vs any good turbo, tsg, god comp, etc. you need to prevent the warrior/shaman/spriest from stopping your trap. Sure its simpler, but there also isnt as many tools at the disposal and getting trapped inst the same as getting pollied. I cant retrap two more times or constantly trap dps, that would be absurd.

And then there is the instant cc argument...even in mop mages actually had more instant cc than hunters, and now in wod hunters have none. Trap isnt an instant cc. You don't target someone and they get instantly trapped. It has a positioning requirement, aiming requirement, and travel time, and due to this there are a variety of ways to stop it. Its more instant than poly, but its not like you can spam instant cc.

Oh and CS is the best interrupt in the game is why I put it there. 6 sec lockout, 40 yd range, instant, 24 sec cd. Its twice as good as countershot.

So in other words, if you want to compare classes, mages are better versions of hunters in every aspect aside from sustained damage, and "barrier of entry" is an incredibly dumb and weak argument when every class including mage has 4 spells. There is a playstyle difference, thats all.

Get off your high horse. You're not in any better position to complain about this video game than me.

All I hear is baaahhh baaahhh baaahhhh baaahhh
i seriously dont understand what the fuck you're even arguing about.
a hunter (not you) posted in a demeaning way about a spell from another class (which i dont even play myself), so i mocked him back as to see if he would wake up and grow from his 9 year-old mentality.

then comes you, attacking me for some reason in an unoriginal way.

then other people come at you for being a retard.

are we on the same page now?


Posted Capstone on Yesterday, 05:00 PM

View PostGlink, on 17 April 2015 - 11:55 AM, said:

You could say that about every class. Thats the whole point of the post. People like to bash hunters but mages are annoying in their own ways and imo ruin the game.

In other words, I can say whatever the fuck I want and have every right to, and hunters shouldnt take all the flak.

Fuck mages. Fuck god comp. Fuck rmd.

They are all cancer.
there's a distinction beyond your feeble hunter mind here, which is that one side is complaining that things in the game are strong (will always exist) and the other is complaining that strong things in the game create unbelievably different barriers of entry and experiences at high rating. the difference is that you can just build all hunter damage into one big macro and then press your instant cc whenever you want it and attack to win with a below average level of understanding of how the game works

you're just part of a group of hunters so self unaware that you lose games and, consequently, actually believe that because things are strong in the game's environment they are somehow on the same plane of unbelievable trash as the existence of a class that essentially exists at this point so your kids can play at 3k rating without feeling too bad about themselves

we do both have complaints, they're just about two totally different things. yours will always just be bitching about whatever's good in the current meta until it goes away (literally, now, your complaints have come to where you link photos of counterspell in an era where it can only be used as an interrupt)


Posted Dills on Yesterday, 04:30 PM

So do people really not get that the problem with polymorph right now is that mages have nothing better to do than to spam it (offensively they just rely on novas, and that's basically just waiting on a cd. Lining up fof procs and lance spamming is more difficult than using ice nova for damage, and the fact that nova is their main damage is a big part of the problem. Mages have nothing better to do other than spam casting sheeps since that damage is only going go be efficient in full ccs anyways) and defensively the fact that they also have flamegloe making them absurdly tanky making it hard to punish them for spam casting, on top of the fact that they now also have access to blazing speed.

Honestly the problem with mages right now isn't polymorph, it's the fact that they are designed to have nothing better to do than to spam cast these sheeps which isnt fun for the mages nor the people fighting them. If they actually do something about the mechanics that are wrong with mages (rewarding them for casting frostbolts either for getting shatters off, or for building a large amount of icicles and setting up full procs and having that as their damage over nova) getting rid of flameglow and making ice barrier a lot more viable to use so using it well rewards them, and just getting rid of blazing speed so that they cant just easily escape whenever they fuck up or so they cant across the entire arena in 2 seconds to deep sheep their healer without their team being anle to stop it.

Tldr poly isnt the problem


Posted God on Yesterday, 02:37 PM

Really, every class in this game has had their skill ceiling and skill floor dropped massive and yet certain classes still wanna act like it's WotLK where there skill ceiling was really high.

Mages are certainly not a hard class anymore D:


Posted Dills on 16 April 2015 - 08:34 PM

View PostPouncedd, on 16 April 2015 - 07:19 PM, said:

They are finally going to remove polymorph from the game? Hell yea

How can you even manage to turn on your computer

#4410255 6.2 patch notes

Posted God on 15 April 2015 - 03:40 PM

View Posthertzuk, on 15 April 2015 - 09:56 AM, said:

Slightly more thread related but equally off topic: The best part of this thread is the 3k rated hunter who thinks that your own character is not player controlled.

Not sure why that is really relevant.

It's the pet that should be getting Glad after all.

#4410108 6.2 patch notes

Posted hertzuk on 15 April 2015 - 09:56 AM

View PostLolflay, on 15 April 2015 - 01:55 AM, said:

Warrior or Shaman. Killing a Warlock is a viable strat if he's playing with an Observer, which most of them aren't, sooooooo...

Not having a dig here, but I don't really understand this mentality. A warlock with a sac'd pet is as killable as a warlock with a dead pet... (Let's face it, he's probably not going to be topped vs godcomp when you swap anyway so that extra 20% health is fairly obsolete). And if you kill (or force sac on) 2 pets in short succession so that the lock can't get a new pet out for like 30 seconds+ that's a lot of time you can do a lot of damage to him.

But yeah warrior is a better target for sure.

Slightly more thread related but equally off topic: The best part of this thread is the 3k rated hunter who thinks that your own character is not player controlled.

View Postjohanx, on 14 April 2015 - 12:34 PM, said:

wait wait wait.. nerf BM? i dont see crows & barrage doing only 80% of normal dmg vs pet being a relevant nerf?

View PostNaraga, on 14 April 2015 - 12:36 PM, said:

Do players not count as player controlled targets?

View Postjohanx, on 14 April 2015 - 12:39 PM, said:

uhm i don't think so?


#4409836 Wintrading is back bois

Posted God on 14 April 2015 - 06:19 PM

View PostXonika, on 14 April 2015 - 03:23 PM, said:

blizzard would lose sooooo much if they completly stopped boosting

They would gain some integrity back, something they haven't had in a long time.

#4409302 Holinka appreciation thread

Posted ROKMODE on 14 April 2015 - 12:51 AM

View PostXonika, on 13 April 2015 - 11:27 PM, said:

jimjim is right tho... when have mages ever been bad/"unviable"? personally i like facing mages (that arnt playin rmx/godcomp etc) coz when i do something good such as ground deep or fuck up their setup it feels rewarding in a way but when your against rmx/godcomp etc, the mage can fuck up so many things and still have the upper hand. the top mages deserve credit because they are actually good players but when some random idiot mage can have the same potential as the best (raiku, leekzy, nolifer etc) its ridicules.
lol cuz mage is jokes compared to how difficult they used to be to keep up at a high level

#4408790 Wintrading is back bois

Posted Knaittiz on 12 April 2015 - 02:03 PM

View PostKnaittiz, on 12 April 2015 - 08:43 AM, said:

Master Detective Knaittiz on the case.

Djqwatz aka Røum actually paid 28€ (race change (dwarf fem->dwarf male) + name change) to try and hide the fact that he wintraded.

Luckily I record every game of 3v3 I play so I got these wintraders on camera. It was easy to tell they have never been above 1800 legit. You can see his guild name on the left picture. He wasn't smart enough to leave it :(

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Could be coincidence, sure. Now let's go to wowprogress.com that still has some useful information about Djqwatz: http://www.wowprogre...encrest/Djqwatz As you can see, mr. Djqwatz and Røum are using the exact same gear.

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http://pvpratings.co...ravencrest/Røum no games found what a surprise

All 3 scumbags:


Would tweeting this at Holinka work?
Keep wasting your money Djqwatz aka Røum aka Thunderqt, I will keep finding you!

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He just changed name again and armory will update soon :PPPP


Atleast he left the guild this time and changed gear, title and spec... pretty impressive, maybe he'll pull it off next time

#4408722 Wintrading is back bois

Posted Isokukko on 12 April 2015 - 09:42 AM

couple more wintraders that have been doing it for couple seasons and gettin away with it :P


also these guys have aj accounts

detective bigcock is on the case. you cant hide wintrader scum.

#4408714 Wintrading is back bois

Posted drewzys on 12 April 2015 - 09:19 AM

not trying to be that guy but do people seriously still care about this? lol

wintrading has been a thing for like ever, its no scummier then selling boosts which is apparently "ok" by top player standards so i dont even see why people even bother trying to "expose" people on a game thats been dead for 3 expansions..

#4407916 Please save the Crows.

Posted Capstone on 08 April 2015 - 08:52 PM

let's talk, a bit, about preserving our species

i've been playing world of warcraft for around ten years. i've never been a huge fan of attacking lower level players. it's a boring, useless interaction and i'd appreciate the courtesy of being allowed to suffer the horrifying leveling experience of world of warcraft in peace myself

at some point during mists of pandaria, i leveled a hunter to 90 in three days and began playing arena immediately. undergeared and with no experience, i was able to climb to the top of the ladder on my battlegroup almost immediately. i would routinely queue into other hunter teams, with ostensibly competitive hunters (at least a couple rank 1 titles) and perform well enough to win consistently, even in mirrors, 2v2 scenarios, etc. probably worst of all, i was playing with friends, the same two people i was playing with on my mage (both comps were good comps), and we immediately started doing better with the hunter i had practiced for a few days than the mage i had played for 8+ years as soon as i discovered that my pet's Bite needed to be on autocast. i was not alone in this. at the same time, veev was making a hunter and rising to the top of the bg9 ladder almost immediately

it was at this time i realized the only true way for any player in this game to beat a hunter is to stop them from advancing at an early age. when i see hunters in the wild now while waiting for a queue, i kill them. i stay there, on my flying mount, repeatedly killing them until they log off

think about it. when you see xlegolasx leveling in terokkar forest, he's no threat to you. if you leave him unmolested, though, it will only be a matter of time until you see him in arena, at 2900 or 3000 rating, and regardless of how focused either of you are, which buttons he presses, whether or not he is awake, or in fact, is just a chimpanzee, your chances of winning are decent at best

if our species is to be protected and our community is to be preserved, we must take steps to prevent hunters from advancing - before they are unstoppable. remember, inhibiting a hunter's leveling process in any way is an invaluable service to the community

#4407824 The Complete PvP Patch-

Posted Forumz on 08 April 2015 - 01:21 PM

Can we please get rid of all the passive/spammable bullshit defensives

Spirit Bond
Conversion (not that anyone uses it but it's still retarded when it's good)
Glyphed Warlock Shield Wall (why do they need that shit on top of Soul Link?)
shapeshift 5% heal

also make blood presence/defensive stance more costly or weaker.

#4407400 People getting banned on twitch for streaming vanilla servers.

Posted Nicholaes92 on 06 April 2015 - 03:47 PM

View PostLolflay, on 06 April 2015 - 03:29 PM, said:

Having glad drakes in my bag, not being able to ride them because I don't have 1k gold, let alone 5k gold.

Good times. ( then I pay 10 euros to my RL mate to farm me 5k gold, and he steals 5k off someones account, rofl )

I remember back then we had a farming "group" for our mounts.  We had 5 people farm everyday and we would give all the gold to one person so he could get his farming done faster.  It was all going well till the 3rd guy in the group dipped out after he got his mount.  If you still play this game molock and you read these forums just remeber I didn't forget your name and someday I will rape you.