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#4248727 well deserved title Kappa

Posted Feliclandelo on Today, 06:56 PM

View PostHiimgosu, on 31 October 2014 - 06:26 PM, said:

still legit glad :)

Must have been a bug then that you ended up outside arena! 2xdruid/Dk apperently stronger than I anticipated, especially with your 3400 mmr.

I don't know why u arent banned from AJ either, considering ur previous account was. Some might think AJ was moderated by Blizzard themselves looking how incompetent some of them are.


#4247698 Cheating, AJ & You

Posted Elorxo on Yesterday, 11:03 PM

View PostBraindance, on 30 October 2014 - 07:22 PM, said:

Im at work - in a few hours

did you use your oxford degree for that job m8


#4246741 Cheating, AJ & You

Posted Dillypoo on Yesterday, 03:24 AM

I read through a majority of these posts and I'm really hoping no one had said this already, but I still feel it's something that people don't consider too often.

Throughout playing wow I was for the most part kind of okay with boosting. It was something I didn't really like, and therefore I did not do it myself, however I still did not complain about any partners or just other high rated players I knew doing it because I would rationalize their reasoning. For some people if they're trying to play the game a very large amount and really enjoy it and wanting to be the best of the best whatever it is etc. they potentially might not be able to put in the time required (Not everyone needs to play the game a lot to stay at the highest level, but some do) because it's not really an efficient use of their time when they need to instead spend that time working. So in order for those people that want to actually be playing all the time similar to how a professional league player would play and practice, I'd rationalize it as them needing the money for to put in that time towards the game they love. And the easiest way for those people to get that money is through boosting.

However, by doing those boosts they end up hurting the competitive environment of the game they love, and also just the ladders. Instead of having the game progress into something those types of people want (i.e an esport on the same popularty of league) regardless of it's something that's possible or not they are still preventing that from happening by causing issues with competition.

But the one thing I believe people don't consider a part of any of this is DDoSing. So obviously it's clear DDoSing is a huge issue right now, people use it to get themselves their undeserved titles and those people cheating that way should be punished. Since DDoSing allows those people to get ratings they themselves couldn't have obtained without cheating, this actually can apply to those players doing Pilots. Because there is money involved in boosting, the type of people that are willing to cheat for things will definitely use that cheating to get a profit for themselves. Now instead of just only top players being able to do Pilots to earn money, you also have people with booters who can do the same thing and can use DDoS as a way to make some of their pilots possible. The same sort of thing can also be applied to wintrading and botters. The same people that will wintrade, bot, and ddos games on their main characters for their title can also do it on pilots now allowing them to get a profit off of something that was not even obtainable to them in the first place.

The TL;DR version of all of that is not everyone that pilots is a wintrading ddoser or botter, but I am pretty positive at least 90% of wintraders, ddosers, and botters will do the same on pilots in order to profit off of the game, and hell I'm sure that some top players that don't wintrade on their mains, would possibly have it done on a pilot to make it easier and less time consuming, and they probably wouldn't really care about doing that because it's not their own account.

Piloting has always been a problem and has always been bad for the game. I'd say now with things like DDoSing becoming more and more common, for blizzard and the community especially (a lot of people will overlook and rationalize piloting as oh well it's not as bad as hacking ddosing wintrading, botting w.e) to look at piloting as just as bad as any other form of cheating in the game as it also enables a bigger rise of the other forms of cheating,


#4246711 Cheating, AJ & You

Posted Hackattack3 on Yesterday, 02:26 AM

View PostDizzeeyo, on 30 October 2014 - 02:01 AM, said:

well since he is probably underage to drink, and since http://eu.battle.net...bydizz/advanced is actually my character, do I get a beer as well? :)


that would be because virtually all of your recent posts are complaining about wintraders, describing how they are the source of all evil in this game, and how we should all report every single wintrader we see to get their rating reset

this is while you are doing what, 100 individual rogue pilots every season? why the hell do you even care about wintraders, since you obviously don't give a fuck about the integrity of the arena ladder? oh wait, less wintrading means less inflation, means your pilots are easier to do :)

i really don't mind people who don't care about this game and see it only as a means to make money by breaking the tos - they will always exist whatever we do and that's their choice - when this game dies in a few years or so they will probably wish they hadn't, but that's another discussion entirely. i just find it incredibly ironic when they then choose to lecture the rest of us about how unmoral and terrible a rival form of cheating is - just because it makes it harder for them to exploit the ladder in their own way and make money from it

is that smiley face enough for you to understand? :)

Re-quoting runner up.


#4246708 Cheating, AJ & You

Posted Hackattack3 on Yesterday, 02:25 AM

View PostLolflay, on 27 October 2014 - 08:10 PM, said:

Oh. My. Fucking. God.

The moment a person actually starts to tolerate you and maybe think that you'll turn out alright in the end, you write shit like this. You're a lost fucking cause, aren't you ? Take it from someone who did more boosting than you've had chance to during your little Ele Shaman escapade - if you're doing it, at least don't be a dick about it. You can't honestly believe boosting is good for this game ?


Here's a personality trait I had before. I used to be extremely hostile towards some players ( who I guess you could call "new kids on the block" ) who got Gladiator/R1 in the past, mostly because I didn't deem them worthy enough ( If I'm > them, why did they get reward >= mine ? )

But even though I was bitter towards them, I've ACCEPTED them. And do you know why ? BECAUSE those players are what keeps ARENA alive.


We have two players, Bob and Murray.

Bob is a guy with 3000 arena games in this season, Bob is a solid Duelist, but he might have a shot at Gladiator in 1000ish more games.

Murray likes chasing tail more than playing arena, but Murray wants Gladiator. Murray decides to buy Gladiator.

Bob gets at the exact rating the cutoff is at. Murray's boost knocks Bob out. Murray walks around with the title, while Bob, a legitimate player who probably would've continued playing arena if not for scumbags, is left in dirt.


Sure, Bob can try next season, and he probably will, but he's been fucked out of a title he worked really hard for, while on another hand, Murray just got his Glad achievement, title and mount, and will probably never participate in arena again at all.




TL;DR - anyone who supports boosting in any way is fucking retarded.  Timeline of events :

- R1/Gladiator means something, is a prestigious thing to acquire in this game.

- more people start playing arena

- Gladiator cutoffs lower themselves each season ( not proportional to skill )

- morons start sharing R1 titles ( while claiming they don't care about them, interestingly enough they care about them so much they're willing to scout 24/7 and play hard to land at share rating )

- at one point, old, better players start separating themselves from new players ( community divided )

- new players' entry into highrated PvP scene becomes very hard

- boosting starts being a regular thing

- cheating becomes a regular thing

- DDOSing becomes a regular thing

- PvP quality continously declines

- "who gives a shit about this game omfg, new players suck, boosting cheating etc"



You're all fucking hypocrites, and more importantly, morons. Saying you give a shit about a pixelated title doesn't make you less of a person, and taking MASSIVE shits on the thing you love playing for the sake of "reputation" is basically taking shits on yourself. "Yeah man, my hobby totally blows, I'd rather eat hot horse shit than do it, but I'm still doing it". Bunch of imbeciles.

Re-quoting best post in this thread.


#4246279 Titles not going out today, ban wave still approaches

Posted Feliclandelo on 29 October 2014 - 02:59 PM

View PostAvengelyne, on 29 October 2014 - 01:52 PM, said:

As much as I like to shit on the poor ladder moderation done by Blizzard, in this case they let us know @ NYC they have been given as much time as necessary instead of rushing it through in 1 week to do the best job they can. It seems pretty easy to look at it from the outside and be all: "THEY JUST STARTED LATE".

We will see next week in any case if it holds up or if they are just full of shit.

Exactly.

If they would delay titles untill WoD I wouldnt mind either. The more accurate the end of season rewards are, the more prestigious they will be.

Would be good to see people feeling proud once again of their accomplishments, instead of having to ask each Gladiator about their former partners from last season, to make sure they are legit.


#4246402 Cheating, AJ & You

Posted Hackattack3 on 29 October 2014 - 06:56 PM

View PostGlink, on 28 October 2014 - 04:28 AM, said:

No offense to you specifically, but the only people saying that seem to be people without any rating or relevancy.

Don't get me wrong, obviously the ddosing/exploiting/etc is really scummy and ruins the community, but PvP certainly isn't dead. Arena is just as competitive as ever and actually is quite fun all said and done. Twitch also has done a lot to contribute to this and keep the scene alive.

If we got rid of the scum idiots who cheat it could be even better. Unfortunately Blizzard doesn't give a flying fuck, so evidently the community has to take matters into their own hands, which would be a great initiative.

I appreciate the feedback and don't take offense at all.  Your comment is the natural first and easy reaction to my comment.

But if you look at the amount of players from tbc/wotlk etc that come here and say the same thing time and time again.  You have to step back and try to look at it from our perspective and experience.

The graph Braindance linked is only part of the story, that graph is displaying the popularity decline of wow overall, I am specifically talking about the decline of competitive pvp, which I trace back to rbgs, which was a way out for casual and semi-hardcore pvpers.

I take several months off and come back from time to time, I can tell you as someone who has been playing wow off/on for the last 8 years that is a complete FUCKING WASTELAND.  You used to be able to get decent arena teams together on your own server and you could queue at high mmr without running into too many similar teams within your own battlegroup, let alone this current cross realm system.

When you play with new random people and realize you have played with them before and they were on "alts" you start to realizing the true population pool for pvp and the current sad state of the game.


#4246108 Titles not going out today, ban wave still approaches

Posted Sepphie on 29 October 2014 - 10:36 AM

View PostDizzeeyo, on 29 October 2014 - 10:11 AM, said:

do your parents not give you enough attention or something? :)
They do, just not the sort of attention that child protection services would particularly appreciate.


#4245274 Cheating, AJ & You

Posted Primius on 28 October 2014 - 04:03 PM

Cheating is deplorable regardless of who is doing it. Pilots and "Boosting" are just as destructive to the ladder as ddosing/bots.  I can't fathom how people can try to justify selling carries as "ok" or "not that big of a deal".

There should be integrity in the ladder. People go into arena to compete, and there should be integrity within the rule set. Without that there is really no point to competing at all.

I don't care what rating someone happens to be or how good or bad of a player they are. The 1500 player has just as much right to a cheat free ladder as the person that is pushing 3000 rating.  I don't even understand how good or bad a player is factors into if cheating is ok or not.

I remember when I was a player trying to move up. Reading AJ was cool. I couldn't post way back then but for the most part the top end players were constructive, and had positive things to say, and they didn't shit on people that were not as good as they. They tried to help and encourage them to get better.

The AJ Community is complete shit now. Just looking at some of the responses from rank1 players in this game that overall support piloting, and cheating is disgusting.

The game isn't shit, the community at large has made the game feel like shit however.


#4244875 Cheating, AJ & You

Posted DerpiousMaximus on 27 October 2014 - 10:38 PM

I personnaly think that ddos'ing hacking and cheating is deplorable and a insanely scum act. However if you look at the final impact on the ladder (specifically from an eu point of view) it's by far not as large as the boosting practices going about.

I'm one of these duelist jimmy's thats been extremly close to cutoff every season but gets knocked out due to the insane inflation at the end of the season (mostly due to boost) and not having the time investment to get glad. Gladiator is supposed to be for the top 0.5% of the arena and apperantly i'm not one of them. this is with me. However i do not agree with the fact that currently its more the top 0.25%. With the top 0.05% playing multiple same class alts up to title range (which is their right, and i don't disagree with this) combined with the insane amount of boosting going on in the last couple of seasons, which causes insane deflation of the amount of places left.

Personnaly i quit because i just couldn't be bothered to play arena anymore and quit after s14, one of the reasons being missing glad. Yes i might be a duelist jimmy, but it would be nice to aim for a set target that is actually achievable for people, and not highly deflated by all the boosts taking spots.


#4244761 Cheating, AJ & You

Posted Nexxer on 27 October 2014 - 08:38 PM

View Postjaimex, on 27 October 2014 - 08:11 PM, said:

actually nvm i forgot aj was full of random duelists who nobody would ever pay to pilot anybody so

???

You know it's funny, because literally two seasons ago you were exactly that, but hey, at least you are not random now, you are arguably the most annoying and clueless person on this forum :)


#4244701 Cheating, AJ & You

Posted Lolflay on 27 October 2014 - 08:10 PM

View Postjaimex, on 27 October 2014 - 07:42 PM, said:

most people with a problem with boosting are too shit / too unknown to get regular boosts. Hence why they don't like it, people want what they can't have. Most players dont give two shits about whether or not duelist jimmy gets his title cause some big bad r1 player beat him one game at 2400 mmr :(

Oh. My. Fucking. God.

The moment a person actually starts to tolerate you and maybe think that you'll turn out alright in the end, you write shit like this. You're a lost fucking cause, aren't you ? Take it from someone who did more boosting than you've had chance to during your little Ele Shaman escapade - if you're doing it, at least don't be a dick about it. You can't honestly believe boosting is good for this game ?


Here's a personality trait I had before. I used to be extremely hostile towards some players ( who I guess you could call "new kids on the block" ) who got Gladiator/R1 in the past, mostly because I didn't deem them worthy enough ( If I'm > them, why did they get reward >= mine ? )

But even though I was bitter towards them, I've ACCEPTED them. And do you know why ? BECAUSE those players are what keeps ARENA alive.


We have two players, Bob and Murray.

Bob is a guy with 3000 arena games in this season, Bob is a solid Duelist, but he might have a shot at Gladiator in 1000ish more games.

Murray likes chasing tail more than playing arena, but Murray wants Gladiator. Murray decides to buy Gladiator.

Bob gets at the exact rating the cutoff is at. Murray's boost knocks Bob out. Murray walks around with the title, while Bob, a legitimate player who probably would've continued playing arena if not for scumbags, is left in dirt.


Sure, Bob can try next season, and he probably will, but he's been fucked out of a title he worked really hard for, while on another hand, Murray just got his Glad achievement, title and mount, and will probably never participate in arena again at all.




TL;DR - anyone who supports boosting in any way is fucking retarded.  Timeline of events :

- R1/Gladiator means something, is a prestigious thing to acquire in this game.

- more people start playing arena

- Gladiator cutoffs lower themselves each season ( not proportional to skill )

- morons start sharing R1 titles ( while claiming they don't care about them, interestingly enough they care about them so much they're willing to scout 24/7 and play hard to land at share rating )

- at one point, old, better players start separating themselves from new players ( community divided )

- new players' entry into highrated PvP scene becomes very hard

- boosting starts being a regular thing

- cheating becomes a regular thing

- DDOSing becomes a regular thing

- PvP quality continously declines

- "who gives a shit about this game omfg, new players suck, boosting cheating etc"



You're all fucking hypocrites, and more importantly, morons. Saying you give a shit about a pixelated title doesn't make you less of a person, and taking MASSIVE shits on the thing you love playing for the sake of "reputation" is basically taking shits on yourself. "Yeah man, my hobby totally blows, I'd rather eat hot horse shit than do it, but I'm still doing it". Bunch of imbeciles.


#4244704 Cheating, AJ & You

Posted HeyimJack on 27 October 2014 - 08:10 PM

View Postjaimex, on 27 October 2014 - 08:07 PM, said:

no, its not.

if everyone who complained about boosting got 100 euros for playing a session with their partners on 'alts' every now and again, do you think they would complain?
Wait I'm confused did you gain or lose money when you played LSD with Mix playing your druid?


#4244668 Elemental Wod

Posted Creamo on 27 October 2014 - 07:53 PM

View PostDizzeeyo, on 27 October 2014 - 07:32 PM, said:

jaime mistaking a thread discussing wod pvp for a thread discussing wod pre-patch pvp :)

shouldn't you be in the druid forum anyway? we are all waiting for the resto druid three vs three arena pvp guide from the most legitimate r1 resto druid on this website :)
I was expecting frost dk or feral. What a plot twist!


#4244680 Cheating, AJ & You

Posted Zaephyr on 27 October 2014 - 07:56 PM

I'm not gonna lie and say i've never done a boost.

But they are very fucking harmful to the ladder. Long term effects are greater than the immediate annoyance caused by cheating/ddosing etc etc etc (though that's really fucking bad too)

good post though reed, nice to see something from you that isn't le troll +1




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