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#4557873 New to WoD PVP, fucking terrible at it.

Posted ~Invictus on 29 December 2015 - 06:59 PM

Hello and welcome back.

If you browse the forum, you'll find a lot of headsup and whatever about matches and stuff.
For now I'll summarize stuff for you about talents. It's a quick overview based on a year of discussions.

Tier 1, Charge talents.
Against Hunters, Juggernaut.
Against Mage comps, Double Time for uptime.
Against everything else, Warbringer.

If you face melee cleaves and need more peels, gyph for Blitz and take Shockwave, both 2s and 3s.

Tier 5, defensive row.
You'd be better off taking Safeguard against train comps and Vigilance for when you need an additional defensive. It's a great counter against Ferals since it lines up almost perfectly with their burst.

Tier 6, offensive row.
Consider taking Avatar if you need more oomph, or Bloodbath against stuff that tends to kite you to infinity and beyond such as Rogues, Hunters and Ferals.
Bladestorm is good damage, but if you are to pick Bladestorm then it's not for its damage.

Tier 7, level 100
As Arms (and Fury), Anger Management is the sole answer to all the questions. Fury has the option to go for Siegebreaker, but it's a real gimmick and you lose your Fear for it.

If you need a somewhat "easier" spec, roll with Fury for a bit. It's a little more enjoyable than Arms and gives you the opportunity to learn the flow of the game.
I'd suggest to find some inexperienced, nice people you get along with and try to learn the ropes from scratches, if they're willing.

Nice people are better than ranked people with the attitude of a spoiled yogurt, and learning is a fun progress in itself when it's done with a nice group.

If you have any further question, ask away.

#4549443 [Warrior] Legion changes

Posted Evilcow on 05 December 2015 - 11:44 AM

Losing Hamstring, Spell Reflection and Intimidating Shout seems a bit harsh, but arms burst seems really good.


Recklessness, Avatar, Double Time, Bladestorm, Mortal Combo, Anger Management, Pain Train, Sharpen Blade...

#4533471 Season End Announced

Posted HeyimJack on 03 November 2015 - 11:24 PM

View PostWrathful, on 03 November 2015 - 10:16 PM, said:

After an in intense season of shit in Arenas and Battlegrounds,

#4527873 Can i be rewarded for outplaying mages in legion?

Posted Elorxo on 26 October 2015 - 01:20 PM

View PostDuduferalul, on 26 October 2015 - 01:13 PM, said:

put sheep as a talent on the same tree as frostjaw , problem solved

i think making ring and frostjaw dr with deep would be much better

#4527870 Can i be rewarded for outplaying mages in legion?

Posted Duduferalul on 26 October 2015 - 01:13 PM

put sheep as a talent on the same tree as frostjaw , problem solved

#4517493 Inferno #1 Warrior PvP montage

Posted Covlol on 10 October 2015 - 12:01 AM

View PostJonatan, on 01 October 2015 - 07:38 PM, said:

I dont like warrior gameplay, but music was good

Yea, we don't like it either...

#4467350 Cdew ditches Azael and Mes

Posted Jim_Jim on 05 August 2015 - 02:13 PM

Do you like this one ? : http://sketchtoy.com/65650243

#4467299 Cdew ditches Azael and Mes

Posted Jim_Jim on 05 August 2015 - 12:26 PM


I made it with all my love.

#4461611 Recklessnes

Posted Regent on 28 July 2015 - 11:36 PM

View PostPinka, on 28 July 2015 - 11:19 PM, said:

The only offensive cooldown in the game that has it's effect reduced directly in pvp. -50% dmg from crits, denounce, pet sac, barkskin glyph. Would be so much cooler if arms had a different kind of recklessness effect. Like increasing mastery for 12 sec instead of crit.

For arms the only real thing that matters you will crit is mortal strike and sudden death. And mostly when cs is up. So realisticly you can only enjoy a big burst for 1 to 3 globals unless you do CS>SD>MS>Bladestorm. Otherwise the crit is wasted on whirlwind.

Atleast critting has some meaning for fury. As it gives bloodthirst more then 100% crit during it.

Arms is hilariously poorly designed. Vanilla level of class design.

There is no point in changing anything now as it is almost guaranteed to be completely overhauled next expansion.

#4432292 WoD's Design Paradigm and the Warcraft Experience

Posted Bigmoran on 06 June 2015 - 07:07 AM

Post on official forums: http://us.battle.net...c/18000131343#1 Please support this post if possible.

I haven't been keeping up with the forums recently, but it has been quite clear to me that there is a growing sentiment that WoW is less fun than it used to be. As someone who has played WoW for over eight years, this is something I have also felt as of late. I want to be very clear that I really like World of Warcraft. I have had someone of my fondest experiences and met some of my closest friends on this game. That being said, I am very concerned for the future of WoW. I certainly do not want to see the game I've loved for eight years die in a single expansion. The aim of this post is to try and illuminate what I think are the core problems of World of Warcraft's current design paradigm. By no means are any of these problems original ideas. I'm sure there are plenty of posts that have shared my exact feelings. My hope is that others may share some of these feelings and create conversations with both the developers and the community itself.

I. The lack of 'world' in World of Warcraft

Garrisons were originally an interesting novel addition to the WoW experience. They served the purpose of delivering an individual single player experience. While the intention of adding Garrisons might have been to allow for a more personal solo gameplay, I think the psychological effects of Garrisons have been quite damaging on the community. For one, they removed the need for many laborious activities to be done across Azeroth. Everything from gold farming to transmorgification can be done within the Garrison. While this may seem very convenient, it is also incredibly isolating. It is possible to be entirely self sustainable while never needing to leave your Garrison. A friend of mine has even leveled a character 90-100 by simply completing Garrison missions every day.

Smaller server sub-communities are often created in zones with lots of interaction. Durotar and Elwynn Forest are places where people would meet up with each other. They could duel, chit-chat, banter, gossip, etc. While these zones still exist, it is much more common to see many people on your friends list just sitting in their Garrison. It is the equivalent of locking yourself in your room while there is a wonderful party going on in your house. Stormshield and Warspear don't really feel like main cities. Instead there are just a waypoint between you and your Garrison.

II. Trivialized Rewards

I think this problem has its roots with the introduction of Justice Point gear during the Zul'Aman patch in BC. Rewards are given to players for completing the most trivial of tasks. Queue a BG? Get a reward. Complete a dungeon? Get a reward. Complete a garrison mission? Get a reward. Items and achievements are given for almost everything you do in WoW. These trivial tasks also trivialize the reward you receive.  I recently graduated from university. Even though my diploma is a fancy piece of paper, it symbolizes four years of work.  Imagine if all it took to receive a college diploma was to complete a ten question survey. Surely it would devalue the worth of the diploma itself. While it does make gearing characters a much faster process, spamming players with rewards is also something that I see as damaging. Giving players meaningful challenges is something that motivates them to play.

The trivializing of rewards is something that has also effected PvP. The prestige of PvP titles has been lost since the removal of Battlegroups. Rank one titles had more meaning when they were only given to a single team (barring the Season 8 fiasco and other ties throughout the arena seasons). Rank one titles seem to be passed out like hotcakes. Once again, this devalues the worth of the achievement and trivializes the effort involved in obtaining it.

III. Scripted PvP

I really appreciate the effort of Blizzard in barring bots from the game. That being said, I think these efforts were made too late and there is definitely more work to be done. Nonetheless, even if there is not a single bot in WoW, PvP seems to be rather scripted. What I mean by this is that every class and composition has its own script that determines the most optimal plays in a particular matchup. The better each player is at performing their script determines the outcome of the matchup. Mages are a class that I think characterize scripted gameplay. Every 30 seconds, Mages will use Blazing Speed, Blink, Deepfreeze, and Polymorph/Ring of Frost. It's a rinse and repeat algorithm.

The scripted feeling of PvP distorts the depth that each class is capable of achieving. Each class and composition is streamlined into playing a certain way. If you do not play by the script, you will fail. If you play by the script, you will succeed.

IV. Cooldowns being too strong or too weak

One of the biggest changes to class design since Vanilla was the increasing number of cooldowns with every expansion. While I do think cooldowns are interesting, there is an incredible imbalance of the strength of different cooldowns and their interactions with other abilities. Simply put, some cooldowns are disproportionately strong compared to others. One example of crazy powerful cooldown/ability interaction that is Bestial Wrath, Focus Fire, A Murder of Crows, and Barrage. These four abilities (all of which are cooldowns) dramatically increase the damage done by the BM hunter. The only class that can completely counter this combination of abilities is Rogue (they can Vanish to remove crows and Stun/Gouge/Blind to interrupt Barrage). Some offensive and defensive cooldowns are incredibly powerful, so much so that matchups revolve around the usage of these cooldowns and how well the other team answers with their own cooldowns. It's another form of the script. The most optimal reply to cooldown usage is often more cooldown usage. This cooldown matching doesn't really seem to add much to the depth of matchups. To me, games are infinitely more exciting when they are not determined by a single ability, but instead the consistent good use of an entire skill set.

V. Passive abilities

Controlling your character involves conscious use of movement keys and abilities. Casting a Chaos Bolt, running around with Sprint, and shifting into Bear Form all involve a physical interaction with you and your peripherals. Moving around and casting spells gives you a sense of robust autonomy and allows you to connect with your character. Another change in class design over the years has been the introduction of many passive abilities and perks. While these may benefit each individual class and spec, they really seem to distort this feeling of "I did that" when it comes to controlling your character. In PvP, one of the most complained about passive abilities is Saved by the Light. This ability, like other passives, does not require the user to perform anything (sure you can make the argument that it requires Beacon of Light on the target but that is beside the point). This trivializes the value of the ability itself. If a matchup is determined by a passive Seal of the Light proc, it is psychologically damaging to both the winning and losing team. The Paladin feels like they haven't really done anything-- their win cannot be attributed to the conscious and careful use of a spell. The team that loses is frustrated, knowing that the enemy team has won the matchup because the game had registered a target at x% HP and prevented the death of that target.  

Conclusion (TL;DR)

Much of the current design paradigm in WoW has had psychological damage on players, dampening their motivation to play the game. Overall the game feels less immersive, provides too many rewards, reinforces homogenized gameplay strategies, and revolves too much around powerful cooldowns and passive abilities. The game seems to be losing much of its spirit. Having a fun time in WoW involves joining a community, being creative with your spells, and having a sense of achievement.

#4429478 warlords pvp

Posted drugdealerx on 29 May 2015 - 06:34 AM

credits go to muffles@darkspear US

#4427549 Hey, 2015 Blizz - meet yourselves from the past

Posted Lolflay on 21 May 2015 - 06:06 PM

Small fix Dreoras - WoW's not losing subs because old people are leaving. Life doesn't work that way, otherwise a lot of games would be dead already. WoW's losing subs because Blizzard genuinely doesn't give a fuck.

What you said is like "ow, human race is dying because that dude died" - nah, someone else will replace him. The same way a player who quit will be replaced by a new player, providing the game is actually good.

Before they added all sorts of content to the game. Now they release a new season and a new raid tier and that's it. Old Blizzard would be all like "oh our devs were bored and made a fun little minigame, we're going to release it to public too". New Blizz is all like "oh man, cba fixing this human head clipping issue, and they want me to add a feature? LMAO!"

#4426873 Hey, 2015 Blizz - meet yourselves from the past

Posted Lolflay on 20 May 2015 - 03:02 AM


fucking casual shitfest, return to a decisionmaking process of a decade ago and then we'll talk

( found the link on reddit )

#4423096 BANNED

Posted Snappi on 13 May 2015 - 08:10 PM

russian pvp community is dead

#4408388 warrior self heals

Posted Noxnoxnox on 10 April 2015 - 06:24 PM

View PostTheed, on 10 April 2015 - 05:33 PM, said:

Retarded Enh Offheals and low cd cocoon make it almost impossible to kill a warrior in turbo.