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#4244572 Cheating, AJ & You

Posted Esiwdeer on 27 October 2014 - 07:04 PM

To whom it may concern,

I have chosen to write this post in the interest of stirring some cooperative action on the part of the North American World of Warcraft community. In my humble opinion, the legitimacy of Arena Junkies has long been in decline. I am requesting that the moderatorship of this forum take more serious action against real life threats, leaked real life information, and any credible allegation of cheating.

Thesis: I believe we can greatly reduce the amount of rampant cheating on North American servers through one small, social step. I believe this step is a simple process by which cheaters can be held accountable on the general discussion forums, so long as it is civil, credible and not inflammatory. The "doxing" of prolific cheaters is a misguided(although well-meaning) start, but I believe it falls to people with actual administrator status to curb this culture of cheating.

In this post I will argue that diminishing the amount of cheating is something we must all work toward. I will attempt to show that the only option which provides any sort of efficacy is a retaliatory option. I will provide evidence which I believe shows the need for a responsive, coordinated community which holds its members accountable for the betterment of all.

Firstly, I will say that we will never eliminate cheating. Ladder exploiting, DDoSing, administrative fraud for end of season rewards -- we can never eliminate these cancers, but we can greatly reduce them. I believe that by holding cheaters accountable we can greatly reduce the occurrence and normalcy of these events. One must also consider that while this problem didn't become widespread until late 2012, cheating has been present on all battlegroups/ladders/servers/regions since the arena was introduced. We have the power to re-suppress this ideology and reinstate a culture of honor, competency, and respect for actual skill.

I will begin this post by writing about an exercise in game theory: the prisoner's dilemma. This is a very basic game model in which playing selfishly is always the dominant strategy unless cooperation can be assured. This model can be used as an analog for any game in which the opponents meet more than once.

While playing this game, one learns that they can always do well for themselves by 'betraying' their opponent(playing selfishly.) After some playing, though, you learn that you get the most reward over time through an attitude of constant cooperation. The best computer programs which have the most effective strategies for playing this game follow a sort of "tit for tat" model; if you choose the selfish option, the most effective opponents punish you for your choice each time you make it.

Or we could look to chimpanzees, grooming one another. All chimpanzees, regardless of social standing, groom and receive grooming for removal of ticks, unwanted attachments, simple hygiene and social bonding. Some chimpanzees learn that they can receive grooming and then not return it, or not return it to the same standard(careful removal of ticks, close inspection) for their own profit. Meaning to say, they get groomed for free. They choose the selfish option. These chimpanzees are the DDoSers, the wintraders, the RBG heroes of the jungle.

What kind of chimpanzee do you want to be? The chimpanzees who regularly receive the best grooming are the chimpanzees who hold grudges. By remembering someone who didn't groom you to your satisfaction and refusing to groom them in the future, the chimpanzee has effectively made himself more clean for the rest of his life. Take this one step further. Write a legible, credible, professional post detailing this chimp's selfish action, and let the community cast him out.

These symbiotic relationships exist everywhere in nature. Dawkins is famous for classifying the members of these relationships as suckers, cheats, and grudgers. From humans to chimpanzees to birds, the cheats will always try to behave the most selfishly. The suckers will do nothing - don't cheat, don't hold others accountable. The grudgers hold members of their community accountable based on memory. This is proven scientifically, and this attitude must be embraced by Arena Junkies if the upcoming expansion is going to be anything different than the scum festival that has been Mists of Pandaria.

"Tit for tat" therefore is the most effective strategy where the choices are cooperation or betrayal. We must assure cooperation, and then retaliation. Hold grudges. Let Arena Junkies have a communal memory - a record - of cheating. Disgrace cheaters. This will solve the problem.


It is a social understanding of holding people accountable which will clean up our servers and forums. And yet, posts carefully detailing the cheating of others are deleted and unfairly moderated against.

I am asking for an administrator to re-review the FAQ/posting rules for general discussion. I believe there should be a template for submitting evidence to prove someone has cheated. I believe people should be able to submit evidence in a non-inflammatory way which shows what they believe someone did wrong. If this evidence is found by the community to be credible, this subject should be permanently banned.

Administrators, there must be some retaliation against cheaters. The community which makes guides, visits streams and plays 3v3 at a Gladiatorial level is the same community that must come together to make it known who cheated, how, and for what. This is the only way it can be reduced effectively.

There must be a part of Arena Junkies which holds people accountable when the evidence is insurmountable. There must be a communal sense of justice.

Nothing ruins a game more than cheating. The standard you walk past is the standard you accept. You should fear reprisal from the community, or no longer be a part of it.

This atmosphere of cheating is a toxicant created by each of us when we choose not to act. To remove this toxicant, we must choose action over inaction. Each of us, from moderators to lowly members must report posts and clamor for justice. Cheaters must be held accountable. Fake titles must be stripped, banned, corrected & made public. Anyone who cheats must be held accountable.

Sunlight is the best disinfectant. Let Warlords of Draenor be an expansion known for honor, justice and competency.


#4243987 WOD, who is playing?

Posted FTRouslan on 26 October 2014 - 11:36 PM

Boombox killed WoW

#4243417 WOD, who is playing?

Posted stcolbert on 26 October 2014 - 09:38 AM

I'm with Rilor on this one.  Too busy banging models and making $$$

#4243774 a friend

Posted Esiwdeer on 26 October 2014 - 07:19 PM

Just so you guys know,

the joke was "I'm an authority, France is gay."

I don't speak French. I literally copy and pasted the entire French interaction out of disdain for Europeans and then changed it to make them seem gay. I am not sure why this has made anyone insult my intellectual or linguistic competencies.

I am truly sorry for being so smart and 'successful' with women. I honestly do not care about it at all. I don't care about how many languages I speak or how many bitches run me through their sorting hat, only to have a sore Hufflepuff the next morning. I don't even see myself as an alpha, really. I see myself more as the main character from All Dogs Go To Heaven - scrappy, and resourceful like Jackie Chan. Handsome. Courageous. Sexually adept. Good looking in the way that lets you know he's also very smart like, I didn't just get here because of my looks. You know?

I'm not sure why you guys choose dissonance, but it says more about you than it does about me. I feel like I just go around, calling France gay if left alone. It's always someone else who has to fuck it up by pretending I claimed to learn French overnight.

You don't have to speak French to know France is gay, I'm fluent in that much.

If there's one thing we can all agree upon, it's that France is the gayest poster on Arena Junkies. Literally the most cowardly, most unoriginal, least funny, dumbest, worst named, gayest poster on the entire website in the history of all time. That is the only assertion I have made in this thread.

#4242673 [IRL] Official OT IRL Picture's

Posted Stupidratard on 25 October 2014 - 04:27 AM

View PostZaephyr, on 20 September 2014 - 02:28 PM, said:

Here's the first in a series of autistic photos by me and my best milk chocolate m8

Who knows, in time this could evolve there could be Duo "in bed with Zaeyra" inc

I know i'm fat atm guys but i'm working on it, me and ayra will be raving topless soon
Posted Image

Friends who train together stay together.

#4241380 Fuck one, kill one, marry one

Posted Rathrill on 23 October 2014 - 09:53 PM

I'm glad. I need a new proflle pic... i'll upload a new profile pic tomorrow feel free to photoshop it ;)

Man OT has changed! its so hard to keep track of.

Shame Nymph had to say goodbye because of the army of cyber-whores who want to fuck bailamos ( guessing this list is actually as small as the number of titles failamos got without some form of cheating )

Reedwise is back. Still posting bullshit, though.

Ayras still a lad. No shocker there

Glongon has hentai magazines stashed in every location possible from his childhood ... this actually wasn't a surprise at all, in fact i'd have been shocked if it wasn't the case

Is this neitey prick still the same neitey prick as before or has some other prick taken over his profile?

US players still make fucking awful topics that no one gives a shit about

Zae lowering his standards and asking nymph out and offering to pay

This Myrrh slut is obviously the real life incarnation of the mmo gamer on southpark

Anyhow, nice to read some stuff that reminds me of a better time in life when all i cared about was chasing cyber sluts round goldshire

over and out. sluts.

#4240156 The "Funny Picture" thread

Posted Rilor on 22 October 2014 - 10:55 PM

#4240153 Fuck one, kill one, marry one

Posted Rilor on 22 October 2014 - 10:53 PM

View PostZaephyr, on 22 October 2014 - 08:46 PM, said:

sorry mistype, 105
That's 105 different lays too.

#4239682 Fuck one, kill one, marry one

Posted Clamnesia on 22 October 2014 - 12:29 PM

Also, does anyone think it's weird that my belly button is actually 5 inches deep? I know what you're thinking... "It's probably because you're a fat slob." But im not fat! I'm 6'1 185 pound male. My belly button should NOT be that deep. Any advice on what to do about this particular dilemma? Im very self conscious about it. Its really awks. My dog even tried to penetrate it sometimes. It freaks me out.

#4239199 Nympeu I don't understand

Posted Slashgiggle on 21 October 2014 - 10:26 PM

First boobs I saw were on the two models I was banging when I lost my virginity at age 9

#4237846 a friend

Posted Ayrasaurus on 20 October 2014 - 07:34 PM

View PostNympheu, on 20 October 2014 - 07:29 PM, said:

Plus I have a racist vagina so it would never work. Everybody is here though, yay ^_^

i wasn't implying you would be joining roflmao

i said fuck nymph as in let's take her out of the equation and find ourselves a qt

better luck next week

#4237807 a friend

Posted Ayrasaurus on 20 October 2014 - 07:25 PM

Zae i would legit have a threesum with you (fuck nymph m8 she aint worth it)

but i think we'd end up throwing the 3rd party out of the room :/

#4237804 a friend

Posted Ayrasaurus on 20 October 2014 - 07:24 PM

View PostZaephyr, on 20 October 2014 - 07:17 PM, said:

I got a few asians m8 wanna share?




#4237762 a friend

Posted Nympheu on 20 October 2014 - 07:01 PM

View PostZaephyr, on 20 October 2014 - 06:59 PM, said:

needed a challenge


#4234312 [IRL] Official OT IRL Picture's

Posted Kawklee on 16 October 2014 - 03:40 PM

that ur a fuckin gaylord