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#4388790 RBG tourny after thoughts

Posted Datacuss on 17 February 2015 - 02:35 AM

View PostGelu, on 17 February 2015 - 02:16 AM, said:

me and Lurtex were in your position in season 14 so we started making our own groups together with arena partners and the like and now we're here! :D just need to take the initiative and people will follow

I did the same thing with splatted and he ddosed every one

#4388758 RBG tourny after thoughts

Posted Gelu on 17 February 2015 - 01:42 AM

Hey all,

After watching the Gamersleague RBG tourny has anyone been inspired to form an rbg group of their own?

From a spectator PoV i was actually able to watch the whole tournament without being bored to death by common red flags that would occur in Arena tournaments such as; counter comping, long drawn out games and just all around boring cookie cutter strats.

Although obviously the tourny did have some hiccups on the US side of things, the actual games were much more exciting to watch then an arena tournament i feel and i would be really happy to see some more teams step up and play in the next tournament (specifically from EU since the RBG community is quite small here).

It would be really great for the competition to increase on both EU and US and i guess i was just trying to gauge if anyone except from the current RBG try-hards (myself included) found this to be something they would want to take part in a second time around.

#4380986 ABN?

Posted Datacuss on 06 February 2015 - 12:22 AM

View PostBorngood, on 05 February 2015 - 08:59 PM, said:

His actions are hardly surprising, speaks volumes for his character.

You should take a look at yourself when your RBG leader ddoses and dodges every time he plays the game. Tells a lot about your character by how you sit by and look away.

#4380736 ABN?

Posted Mattadoro on 05 February 2015 - 04:36 PM

everyone needs to relax, i talked to abn and he confirmed that this video was just his artistic impression of WoD Hunters

#4380706 ABN?

Posted Noxnoxnox on 05 February 2015 - 03:26 PM

someone tweet this to holinka

#4380490 ABN?

Posted Miixzy on 05 February 2015 - 07:01 AM

This is what season 16 pvp does to people

#4378842 Literally one change that would up the fun in this game by tenfold

Posted Drake on 02 February 2015 - 03:30 PM

That would pretty much double the damage in short windows due to energy pooling, but keep the overall damage rather constant, thanks to limited resources / CDs on abilities.

Bad change. Everything would just flop in a single 5s stun to shit like CS MS WW WW WW WW WW WW or Rake Shred Shred FB Shred Shred Shred FB.

#4359114 Arena MS paint rage thread!

Posted Pinka on 14 January 2015 - 05:12 PM

How the game feels everytime i play on my DK.

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#4377892 With all the homogenization going on it's time to update combat mechanics

Posted Kidneygod on 31 January 2015 - 05:52 PM

You can shoot a tree in GW2. That's probably why they have 50k satisfied players.

#4372976 RBG Tournament: Battle of the Atlantic Worlds Reveal Show

Posted Korzul on 27 January 2015 - 02:34 AM

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#4375256 RBG Tournament: Battle of the Atlantic Worlds Reveal Show

Posted Serious_ on 28 January 2015 - 07:30 PM

View PostBigmoran, on 27 January 2015 - 05:30 PM, said:

exploiting at the highest levels is almost nonexistant.
"Almost" being a key word here. While I've come to expect fair honorable games from Data and Abn, I can't help but remember Bailamos's team using Ice Floes with Leap of Faith to cap the center node in DWG on us the week before the exploit was fixed. Outside of that I agree with everything you said.

View PostGlink, on 27 January 2015 - 06:38 PM, said:

In all seriousness, I do think at a particularly higher rating there is some strategy and skill but overall RBGs generally allow for a much larger margin of error than arena. Generally there is very little individual skill required to do your part in RBGs, skill is measured by damage charts and the team cooperation, its essentially a PvE race. Cross CC? What, you mean the ability to cc 2-3 healers amongst 10 players? It's not hard to CC healers in fights if the players on your team have a brain, but of course that is most of the challenge of RBGs - to get 10 monkeys to do something simple, like holding a base or spinning a flag, or not getting ninja capped on, all of which are simple tasks if you have people with brains.

This could possibly be the dumbest thing I've ever read. Individual skill plays a huge role in RBGs. It is possible to carry a player depending on how well the rest of your team plays, but it's also possible for one poorly skilled individual to ruin the game for nine other players. It goes both ways. Maybe if you're absolutely clueless when it comes to RBGs you can gauge skill by looking at damage charts. That would essentially be the same as RLS vs RLS and determining who was the better Lock based on damage alone - there's way more involved than that. Successfully landing interrupts, juking interrupts, knowing when you push offensively, when to play defensively, kiting melee, when to peel for your healers instead of CCing enemy healers. There's way more skill involved than pressing Shift+Spacebar and looking at damage.

And your "have a brain" argument is completely retarded. Is it hard to CC healers? No, of course not. That's a dumb thing to say. It's also not hard for the other team to CC your healers. It's also not hard to peel for your healers, or the other team to peel for theirs. It's not hard to spin our bases, or for the other team to spin theirs. It's not hard to defend against ninja caps, and it's not hard for the other team to defend against them either. It's not hard to juke interrupts, or land interrupts, or kite melee, or peel for healers, or pillar hump in 3s, or train healers until they die, or slay dragons. Hell, why even play this game when all you need are people with brains?!

View PostGlink, on 27 January 2015 - 06:38 PM, said:

The main reason people consider RBGs are a joke is because DDoS, exploiting, and botting is the norm, not the exception, yes even at high ratkngs, in fact ALL THE TIME at high ratings, mainly when the season has gone further along. In addition to DDoS, exploitation of the game is also the norm, by the end of last season every team was required to run with orb bottrs and script botting locks in order to be competitive, not to mention fly hacking, speed glitches, use of items, and many other exploits which run rampant in RBGs.

The first part of this I can agree on. I'm hoping Blizzard eventually does something about the exploiting, fly hacking, and interrupt botting that happens. It's not acceptable and I hope that if enough people speak up against it Blizzard will step up and do something. DDoSing would almost go away (except for a few try-hard ddosers that grab IPs from forums and stuff) if people just stopped using Skype. The argument I hear the most is that there's voice latency in hosted solutions like TeamSpeak (I don't hear it), but you're essentially doing the same thing by choosing to filter your voice through a proxy. The moment you use a proxy it's no longer a direct peer to peer connection - which is why people chose Skype in the first place. And it's Microsoft for God's sake! Why don't we all start using IE too while we're at it?

The second part I don't agree on. Even though those things are a problem, not every team was required to run with script botting Locks, or fly hack, or any other exploits. I was Hero on all 3 of the Warlocks I play and I never use anything scummy at all. I'll plead the 5th on orb botting monks, but everything else I can comfortably say weren't used on my teams and we did just fine.

I'm personally looking forward to watching the tournament. I do find it pretty funny that it's taking place on Valentine's Day weekend, pretty much shrugging off the idea that anyone playing in the tourney or anyone that cares to watch has a girlfriend/wife.

#4374968 RBG Tournament: Battle of the Atlantic Worlds Reveal Show

Posted Prefox on 28 January 2015 - 02:00 PM

So any info about participating teams?

edit; if you need eu commentators im upppp :cool:

#4374101 RBG Tournament: Battle of the Atlantic Worlds Reveal Show

Posted Dizzeeyo on 27 January 2015 - 08:50 PM

can't imagine how much more interesting this type of thing would have been if it had happened in season 9, 10 or 11, rather then in wod :( rip interesting team variety

#4373492 RBG Tournament: Battle of the Atlantic Worlds Reveal Show

Posted Reedztv on 27 January 2015 - 08:49 AM

View Postdrzy, on 27 January 2015 - 05:07 AM, said:

More in-depth post because why not.

This idea won't really work. It's a good thought on paper, get all the top teams to compete in rBG's, but sadly, it's not going to work. Sure it's easy to see who's cheating with botting/fly hacking or whatever. There is literally no way to determine DDoS'd though.

For example, Team A is playing Team B. Team C knows that Team B is better, so they ddos team A to instantly DQ Team B, that way they get an easier passage to victory. Or somebody not even in the tournament does the ddos'ing. Doesn't matter. What if both teams get hit when they're playing? Does that make both teams get DQ'd? What if somebody purposely DC's themselves and accuses a DDoS?

It's simply not going to work because the community is so putrid that they will go to any lengths to win. Especially when there is money involved.
I guess you have difficulty understanding the rules because your disqualification example is the work of a true retard. No tournament organiser in their right mind would ever make that a rule and this tournament is no exception. I'd assume if there is sufficient evidence that 'Team A' ddosed 'Team B' there would be a DQ. They wouldnt give out a dq just because someone went offline.

#4372994 RBG Tournament: Battle of the Atlantic Worlds Reveal Show

Posted Datacuss on 27 January 2015 - 02:43 AM

Should be the most exciting tournament in WoW history. No dampening.