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#4100982 Old Armoury Recreated

Posted mtagir1 on 14 April 2014 - 06:50 PM

Added Korean region.
Wow much warrior so skill.


#3821920 RBG 10v10 Face Off at 6PM PST / 9PM EST / 3AM CET

Posted Tosan on 15 December 2012 - 09:24 PM

LOL Bailamos can't win a game without ddos'ing, all Kollektiv's team needs to do is use skype proxies and they automatically win.


#3759885 No titles given out after tuesday reset

Posted ApplejackxD on 04 September 2012 - 11:03 PM

View Postinfectionx, on 04 September 2012 - 05:10 PM, said:

It's gonna be the opposite, if players lose their titles, especially some who got it legit i don't think they will want to continue, even if they had plans to play.

And just about how many hundred players are that? Maybe they rather have 5000 butthurt dwellers quit the game right now but instead bring back 2 000 000 of the ones who quit?


#3756226 First ever 5.01 3v33 tourny

Posted Dakkrothy on 01 September 2012 - 03:52 AM

ill put my money on the team with 33 ppl


#3743507 EU Regionals Tournament Bracket [GAMESCOM]

Posted Razorx on 13 August 2012 - 04:27 PM

Just praying that that random girl aint commentating it again


#3712523 Woundman 17

Posted Woundman on 10 June 2012 - 05:18 AM

Nothing amazing... Just some average footage I recorded on the Battle.net ATR. Kind of sad watching my game play in all honesty, I've really lost my ability play.

Anyways, hopefully you can enjoy it for what it is and learn from the mistakes I made. If you want to help support me, please follow me on twitch.tv/woundman. I haven't been streaming lately because of my internet, but that will change in a week! :)




#3700486 diziet trying to explain the complexities of sponsorship and intellectual theft

Posted Naatzors on 09 May 2012 - 09:05 AM

How is this even an argument lol. It's really obvious curse isn't doing anything wrong, welcome to the real world where good ideas get used by multiple people. Did you expect a monopoly on online WoW tournies for NAO?

I can't even comprehend why you think curse is in it for the money btw, 10k vieuwers is nothing, something like own3d would maybe pay out something like 200dollars/hour (being really generous with this number). There's no way it's gonna cover the costs. All they want is their brandname to be more known, wich, thanks to you, is working out quite well already.

Diziet is 100% right here, and anyone saying otherwise probably has no idea about how the world works.


#3700481 diziet trying to explain the complexities of sponsorship and intellectual theft

Posted Duckers on 09 May 2012 - 08:57 AM

View PostTosan, on 09 May 2012 - 08:36 AM, said:

What "cards" are there to see?
The rare hologram shiny "Make a WoW tournament in the US" card.


#3700476 diziet trying to explain the complexities of sponsorship and intellectual theft

Posted Tosan on 09 May 2012 - 08:36 AM

View PostBaulterexlol, on 09 May 2012 - 08:25 AM, said:

You don't work with a company, see all of their cards, dump them, and then start your own thing with their cards. Doesn't matter if it's IP theft or not. . . It's still wrong. No need to argue with me about if I'm right or wrong, because that's my MORAL stance.

It's an online tournament.....it's not like they're a technology company working on secret projects and Curse came and stole their blueprints to a new Iron Man suit .........

What "cards" are there to see?

I mean I'm not sure why it has to be said more than once, or even once for that matter, but NAO did not invent tournaments.....they're not using "NAO's cards".

I mean let's get real here,  all these tournament organizers are really just ripping off the Romans who built the Collisium and started real gladiator tournaments for bad ass mofos.


#3700472 diziet trying to explain the complexities of sponsorship and intellectual theft

Posted Mogias on 09 May 2012 - 08:28 AM

I really don't get what all the fuss is about, why all this drama? Its meaningless.
Does it matter if there is 10 different tournaments, all based on the same idea? More tournaments benefits the community, stop whining.


#3700473 diziet trying to explain the complexities of sponsorship and intellectual theft

Posted Pawik on 09 May 2012 - 08:29 AM

Don, it's obvious  now why AJ hasn't announced new NAO on main page - they got own tournament.

More important is that for a sake of proving thing u posted personal conversation, which is more important than any silly tournament.


#3700462 diziet trying to explain the complexities of sponsorship and intellectual theft

Posted Tosan on 09 May 2012 - 08:13 AM

View PostDonald, on 09 May 2012 - 08:02 AM, said:

diziet is saying that if im to be consistent, i should argue that the nao is ripping off prestige, when in fact the situations are completely different. prestige is a completely different market (russia), the nao is the US. curse inv is also the US. gg.

Honestly you're just splitting hairs at this point.  This type of argument reminds me of when people are like "Im the HIGHEST RATED dwarf male arcane mage that plays with a night elf male warrior in the US!"

If you change the criteria enough, you can make anything sound more significant. First is first,  Russia?  US?  I don't see how the distinction matters when it comes to online video game tournaments.


#3700461 diziet trying to explain the complexities of sponsorship and intellectual theft

Posted bclol on 09 May 2012 - 08:13 AM

A guy who makes a nice chair doesn’t owe money to everyone who has ever built a chair


#3700447 diziet trying to explain the complexities of sponsorship and intellectual theft

Posted Hyuru on 09 May 2012 - 07:14 AM

Quote

[5/8/2012 11:58:42 PM] Diziet: please argue against NAO on the behalf of Prestige-gaming.ru
[5/8/2012 11:59:00 PM] Don: prestige wasnt starting a tourny in the US

What has that got to do with anything :s?


#3700445 diziet trying to explain the complexities of sponsorship and intellectual theft

Posted Tosan on 09 May 2012 - 07:11 AM

First I'd like to say that I fully appreciate and respect the NAO organizers for all the work they put forth to run the tournament; it is a lot of work, I'm positive, and I certainly wouldn't put the time/effort that they do to run such a thing.

That said, I can't really see how Curse doing an online tournament is "intellectual theft".  The NAO crew got the spectator mod and online tournament spark from a Russian online tournament that was held first, right?  I could be wrong, I know some Russian bad asses made the spectator mod and as far as I recall they used it to hold an online tournament.  But we all know the tournament idea is not a new one and the NAO staff certainly didn't invent it.  They just happened to be the first group (that I'm aware of) to dedicate the time/effort/workload to run them consistently.

NAO holding a tournament is awesome/fun/great/fantastic/etc, but it's not like they invented something new and the idea was stolen.  Dropping the sponsorship of NAO to hold their own because it may be more profitable is not unreasonable.  It may be "selfish" but I mean that's what capitalism is, isn't it?

Skill-Capped was made, then ArenaPwnage/Nerdstompers did something similar.  How many Arena Carry/Pilot sites sprung up not too long after the first one?  No one likes competition but there's nothing wrong with it, everyone is trying to make a living in the world and selfishness is pretty much synonymous with capitalism.

Of course, those types of businesses I listed above negatively hurt eachother because most people won't use more than 1 of them, so they have to choose,  which loses business for the others.   HOWEVER, when it comes to Tournaments, unless the tournaments are being streamed at the same time, it's a win for everyone, as you don't "steal" viewers from eachother at all and it's nothing but a positive thing for the community.

Honestly the only thing I would consider wrong or shady about dropping their NAO sponsorship is if they actually did make a "scapegoat" reason for doing it.  I personally think being honest about it would be better, just say "Hey <NAO staff>, we've decided we want to sponsor our own tournaments and discontinue sponsoring yours.  We still support/respect your tournament and wish you well, this is just something we want to do for ourselves" - or something along those lines.  But of course the "scapegoat" accusation cannot be proven or disproven and in the end it doesn't really matter too much, other than it being a rude/disrespectful to sorta throw Mugems under the bus, if it is true.

I don't know why everyone can't just enjoy the fact that various members of the wow/gaming community are taking it into their own hands to create tournaments where other previous organizations (i.e. MLG) discontinued them.

The more tournaments the better, right?  I don't think they hurt eachother, correct me if I'm wrong.




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