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#3831113 Healers in the absence of silences (5.2)

Posted Guest on 04 January 2013 - 07:56 PM

View PostNightmonkey, on 04 January 2013 - 06:14 PM, said:

Mages and locks have been top classes for 11 seasons.  Warlocks have already been removed from arena apart from very specific comps.  Mages are still all over the place because they're still one of the best classes.  They need to be brought in line with everyone else.  

Not sure what game people have been playing when they confidently say things like this. There's a difference between being a viable class and being a top class. Warlocks, if any class, have always been viable. They have had their moments of being really strong, but it was always something different that was making them so strong. SL/SL, Chaos Bolt/Conflag, and Demo double Chaos wave were some of their stronger times. Frost Mages have been viable for most seasons. Yeah, they do high burst and have good survivability, but that doesn't mean they need to be nerfed. Frost has always been able to be dealt with. There have definitely been times where I die to one where I'm really frustrated because he Ice Lanced me for "X" number 3 times and I died, but every single class has annoying things like that (doesn't mean any of it needs to be changed). Case and point: Mages are not out of line. Improved Counterspell had to be dealt with, yes, but not with the removal of it. Reduce the duration of Imp CS to 3 seconds, and increase the cooldown of Counterspell to 24 seconds. Spell Lock was fine.

View PostNightmonkey, on 04 January 2013 - 06:14 PM, said:

Even with this change Mages will still be very strong because they have some of the strongest control and damage in the game.  Since blanket CS was introduced, Mages have gained at least one other tool to keep someone from casting - deep freeze.  They do not need to be able to deep into a blanket silence.  That is too much control for one class to have.  If you need to protect your frost bomb or your poly, you can still do that with deep freeze.

This is really ugly to even reply to. First of all, I don't agree with the first statement. There has been so many different control abilities added to MoP that Mages previous dominance in CC is being challenged. Druids, Mages, Priests, Paladins, Warriors, and Warlocks all bring plenty of control. I couldn't tell you which one is the strongest. Strongest damage? I mean, with Nether Tempest, their damage is consistently pretty high - sure, but I'm much more scared of other classes' damage.

It seems you're trying to say that deep-->blanket is unfair and shouldn't be possible. Yet again, where is the comparison to how other classes do things? How is Deep/blanket (both magical, mind you) any different from Warbringer-->Shockwave, Beam-->Vortex, Psychic Horror-->Silence, Garrote-->Kidney, Intimidation Stun-->Silencing Shot, Strangulate-->Gnaw Stun?

#3831034 Healers in the absence of silences (5.2)

Posted Nightmonkey on 04 January 2013 - 05:02 PM

View PostXtraT, on 04 January 2013 - 02:16 PM, said:

itt: mages mad, everyone else happy. Gonna be great to be able to cast after faking some nub mage.

This, so very, very much.

I read the first post like the OP was on a presidential campaign or something, trying to rally the support of his Mage and Wizard brethren.  There's no way this topic could have ever gone differently.

Whoever was talking about having to do skillful CC and perfect coordination at the end of WotLK while playing wizard cleave, you are delusional.  Just because you played a less powerful version of the comp doesn't mean everyone else did.  Let us never forget that the term wizard cleave was coined just after S6 when the wizards really came into power.  That didn't happen because wizard damage and control was balanced.

Then someone, probably the same person, went on to say that people who cry about wizard cleave are bad and people who cry about melee cleave are good.  Am I being trolled?  Or is he really that biased and delusional?

Two classes that have traditionally been among the strongest for the past 11 seasons are finally being brought in line with everyone else, and they are none too pleased about it.  One of my characters is a warlock, and if I have to get a nerf to see mages also get the nerf stick - I say bring it on.

#3830944 Healers in the absence of silences (5.2)

Posted Thaya on 04 January 2013 - 01:18 PM

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Posted samcope14 on 03 January 2013 - 08:56 AM

MoP rogue is 10x more fun then Cata Rogue. We are no longer invulnerable gods defensively and offensively.

Two words to sum up MoP rogue. Balanced and Exciting.

A small nerf to warriors would completely fix rogues and the rest of this game.

I can only hope these 5.2 buffs don't go through so that damage spamming mongoloids don't come back to PvP.

#3830187 Anyone legitimately broke 2.2k this season for first time?

Posted gangstalicious on 02 January 2013 - 01:05 PM

if u have full pvp gear regardless of class/spec 2.2k is not all that hard if u play the right comp. The trick is to stop looking at rating of teams u lose to and teams u beat and just discuss strats after losses AND wins(most people never do this because they believe a win means they played perfectly). Ive tanked hundreds of rating queing into "counter comps" but by doing that I got a much better feel to beating them in turn giving pushing my rating higher over a longer period of time.

#3829890 first post of 2013 on aj

Posted Improve on 01 January 2013 - 07:19 AM

View PostCovlol, on 01 January 2013 - 07:16 AM, said:

Happy New Years Sir!

same to you homie

#3826400 MAJOR Cyclone nerf!

Posted stalebagel on 23 December 2012 - 07:21 AM

View PostAvarencex, on 23 December 2012 - 06:47 AM, said:

My elite gear says im holy retard

and just because I have a ret offspec doesnt make me ret gtfo

You are so defensive it's hilarious.  Your elite gear huh?  Grats on 2200 I suppose.  What i'm poking fun at is the fact that you said you were never ret which clearly isn't true (illustrated by your armory).  Let me remind you in case you forgot.

View PostAvarencex, on 23 December 2012 - 05:06 AM, said:

Funny thing is that I was never ret : /

Obviously you have been ret at some point if you have a ret spec.  I understand that your jimmies have been thoroughly rustled on several occasions ITT but that is no reason to behave like a foaming mongoloid towards a neutrality.  I'm simply a third-party pointing out an inconsistency in your argument. There is no need to be upset.

#3825471 storm bolt

Posted Reckful on 22 December 2012 - 12:25 AM

temporarily sneaking a post on the general forums instead of the video section

it's a montage not a video okay

#3825408 Healing in arena nerfed to much ?

Posted Kettu on 21 December 2012 - 10:07 PM

View PostGalaleo, on 21 December 2012 - 04:59 PM, said:

I have already written you off as a retard. So no need to keep talking to me.
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#3825087 5.2 wishlist - Communitys feed for buffs n' nerfs!

Posted Braindance on 21 December 2012 - 08:33 AM

You are asking for some really preposterous changes, but some are quite nice:

a)The first batch of general changes is decent - reducing melee uptime is wrong. Only melee that can't be peeled properly is feral

b)A 1-1.5 min cd on shockwave is simply preposterous. It would make warrior completely worthless vs any good team. The era of warriors being pure damage bots is over. If you want such a change to go through you have to reduce the utility and cc/peeling tools of all other classes by 50% because that is essentially what you are doing on warrior. Shockwave needs tweeking yes, but this is just way way too much. If coupled with a single, 15 sec cd interrupt as you propose afterwards, then warrior have the toolbox they had in BC - 0. Reck avatar change is good.

c)Why should alter time be undispelable? Rest are good or OK.

d)Shaman changes are all nice, except windshear

e)All feral proposed changes are great

f)Dk's need more passive survivability

g)Monks are simply amazing - once more people start playing them you will see. The have the best and most well-thought toolbox in the game

h)Lock changes are nice

i)Paladins have way too much instant cc. Binding light should be tweeked or it should dr with something

j)Rogues need more passive survivability especially vs melees. Making CR a 1 minute cd could help

k)Buff disc mana regen and healing output - nerf shadow utility somehow it's too overwhelming

Holidays are for pussies - keep working

#3825037 Shockwave

Posted Zerud on 21 December 2012 - 06:23 AM

People who run with less than 60 percent resil and go full mongoloid pvp power shouldn't rly complain about damage taken at all.

#3825012 TfB Nerf 1 Stack

Posted Nisslol on 21 December 2012 - 04:43 AM

View Postaldreya, on 20 December 2012 - 01:58 PM, said:

Ferals are really good, but cant compare with warriors. Ferals can be killed much easier than warriors despite their dispersion and bubble. But yes, ferals are really good and they burst dmg is awesome with berserk/incarnation.

8/10 would rofl again

#3823939 The current RBG ladder

Posted Polygonzz on 19 December 2012 - 09:22 AM

View PostBailamosx, on 19 December 2012 - 09:12 AM, said:

Must be real difficult for this Djandawg guy to leave his small box of arena. He probably gets lost and confused in the big ol' battlegrounds. Funny how you complain of Athlete being insulting when your entire "perspective" and "argument" is insulting. Re-read your word choice, premises for your argument, etc. They consist of "fucking dumb", "I have a short attention span", and "I can't control things". All of your comments are rudimentary and narrow-minded. Instead of coming to a thread to insult others for what they play and care about, run along, grab a sharpie and write "Gladiator" on your name tag at whatever crap minimum wage job you work at.

Anyways @OP. It's a joke. The first 200 or so players on the ladder are 100% exploiters. The highest rated player this season is Dsectionhaha at 2547 because he played on the Tich team the first week which had inflated S9 MMR. Blizzard fixed the arena ladder exploiters, and yet exploitation has been occuring in RBGs for over the past year. It's very sad.

scumbag bailamos

complains about exploiters on ladder

sells carries

gtfo you are literally as bad as them

#3823874 The current RBG ladder

Posted Athlete on 19 December 2012 - 05:01 AM

View PostDjandawg, on 19 December 2012 - 04:13 AM, said:

-The queues are too long,
-The games are too long,
-Objectives are fucking dumb,
-You(as a player) have very little control over the outcome of the game.
-I enjoy the combat aspect of the game. I like the fact that every time I outplay an opponent, it gets my team closer to victory. Rbg is just one big cluster fuck where the combat revolves around who does most damage, who heals most, who solar beam / vortex's more etc. It's closer to a pve fight.

using your brain for more than 30 seconds at a time must be difficult

#3822996 Yaspresents Online 3v3 Tournament

Posted flubbah on 17 December 2012 - 03:47 PM

View PostCakesz, on 17 December 2012 - 02:55 PM, said:

Because they are rich arabs who buy R1 every season.

Can u please stop with this, every time i read you, it's always the same thing. Can't you just be happy about the tournament and stop this flamefest alrdy ?