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#4599136 jesus christ this is getting old

Posted Sykoh on 16 August 2016 - 11:23 PM

i really really miss the old aj.

#4600186 Pre-Patch Warriors

Posted Xinowl on 22 August 2016 - 01:54 PM

View PostConey, on 22 August 2016 - 08:34 AM, said:

Meh, whatever. Arms is fine, everything else is just overtuned anyway. Bladestorm doesn't do any damage anyway, it's just a root breaker.

I really miss the WOTLK days where you knew things could die when you hit that Bladestorm :(

#4599716 |Frost Death Knight PvP Guide| (7.0.3)(Legion)

Posted Necro123 on 19 August 2016 - 07:02 PM

|Frost Death Knight PvP Guide| (7.0.3)(Legion)

Hello everyone,

This guide is intended for those who are fairly new to the death knight class and are looking for a great way to start.

What Has Changed With Death Knights?

1. The rune system is completely different and a lot easier to manage. In the past there were frost, death, and unholy runes, but now they are basically like having six death runes.

2. All Death Knight specs have a ranged kick of 15 yards, which is very nice because we lack mobility.

3. Abilities That Were Pruned Include: Desecrated Ground, Lichborne, Death Siphon, Death Pact, Icy Touch(along with its dispel), Plague Strike, Asphyxiate, Outbreak, Death and Decay, and Plague Leech.

4. We have a great, utilizable talent tree for many different arena situations.

5. Death Knights have a new ability called wraith walk, which allows you to break roots and slowing effects, and increase your movement speed by 70% for 3 seconds. So, this is essentially a 3 second freedom every 45 seconds, just remember that any action you do, will cancel the effect.

6. Chains of Ice is now a 70% slow, up from 50%, which is a great tool to peel for your teammates.

7. We have a new ability that comes from our artifact weapon. This ability is called Sindragosa's Fury. It does a massive amount of aoe damage, like it should for a 5 min cd, and is really fun to use.

8. Glyphs are completely removed from the game, but you are able to buy cosmetic glyphs to make some of your abilities look cooler.

9. An important thing to notice is your artifact weapon talent tree as well. When you guys obtain your weapon make sure to read each piece because some of them are extremely vital tools for your kit in arena.


Here is a list of talents that I prefer to run on frost death knight and below are explanations as to why I choose those talents and any tweaks that you could make for certain situations.


Level 56: Murderous Efficiency is an ideal talent choice for this slot because almost every killing machine proc you get, you are able to potentially refund a rune and more runes can mean more peeling with chains of ice, or more damage. It works very well with your passive that gives you a chance to refund a rune when you spend runic power. OTHER OPTION: Shattering Strikes is another viable option. This enables you to do more burst to your target, but further testing needs to be done because Razorice is currently not working in arenas. FeelsBadMan.

Level 57: Freezing Fog is a must for this tier list because each rime proc that you get increases the damage of howling blast by 100%, so the extra 25% on top of that is a nice addition and it makes your frost fever deal more damage as well.

Level 58: Avalanche is a must for this tier because each time you crit with any of your abilities, it produces an avalanche that does a fair amount of damage to any opponents around you.

Level 60: Blinding Sleet is basically an unpredictable dragon's breath. It is unpredictable in the fact that it can break on damage, but sometimes it sits full, which is very nice because if you are playing with a heavy stun partner, you can use this ability out of the stuns for extra pressure.

Level 75: Volatile Shielding or Permafrost. You would use Volatile shielding in any circumstance where there high magic damage on the opposing team and permafrost would be ideal versus teams that have little to no magic.

Level 90: Gathering Storm is a great ability that amplifies your Remorseless Winter, which is an ability that you want to use to amplify the damage of your frost strike from a PvP Talent called Tundra Stalker.

Level 100: Obliteration is very ideal because you can constantly receive killing machine procs after every frost strike and it goes hand in hand with gathering storm because it makes the rune cost of your obliterate 1 instead of 2, but gathering storm will still count as if 2 runes were used from the obliterate. I am not sure if this is a bug or not, but its definitely the best option at the moment in terms of damage. This also goes hand in hand with the avalanche talent as well. I am currently doing more testing on Glacial Advance and it seems to have an issue when used near a wall and that the skill shot is very thin.

PvP Talents

Here is a list of PvP Talents that I prefer to run on frost death knight and below are explanations as to why I chose those talents and any tweaks that you could make for certain situations.


First Tier: Gladiator's Medallion is usually a go to vs teams that have spammable cc, like polymorphs, or fears. ORC OPTION: If the team has heavy stuns and you are an orc, then the Relentless talent would be the way to go.

Second Tier: Reinforced Armor is used in almost all situations because one, frost dks have the highest hp pool in arena, and two, Sparring is only really viable against pure physical melee teams, which rarely exist.

Third Tier: Most of you might not like this talent tree because there are two very good options on there. Dark Sim and Anti-Magic Zone. AMZ, which has been significantly buffed, has always been a great defensive tool for either yourself or your teammates. I personally chose AMZ because it is, literally, another entire defensive CD for your team and can save trinkets from your healer or defensives for your partners in general.

Fourth Tier: Necrotic Aura when playing with things that would benefit from a magic damage amplification and Heartstop Aura with classes that wouldn't benefit from a magic damage amplification.

Fifth Tier: Tundra Stalker is too good to pass up because it increases your damage to snared targets and since you are a frost dk, things will always be snared.

Sixth Tier: Chill Streak is the best ability that frost death knights have and this is what makes the spec amazing. It does a massive amount of damage with each bounce, especially if you are running necrotic aura. The key to using this ability is to make it bounce to one target as much as possible. It bounces 5 times, so the most it can bounce to the same person would be 3 times, so you could say that the ideal time to use this ability would be when there are 2 targets present in close enough range to enable this maximum damage output. **WORKS ON PETS** Please note that.


I still think some people are confused on the whole gearing subject, so I am going to explain it to you guys, so you can benefit yourselves in the best way. The simplest way to explain how to gear in Legion for PvP purposes is to achieve the highest ITEM LEVEL GEAR that you could obtain. Regardless of the stats, each class has a predetermined PvP template of stats when they enter either a BattleGround or and Arena. This "Predetermined" Set of Stats increase with Item level, NOT WITH WHAT THE STATS ON YOUR GEAR SAY.

Here is an example: You obtain a 850 Ilvl piece that gives you mastery and crit and you are like "WoW this is great!" "My Best Stats!". Then 20 minutes later you receive a 855 Warforged piece that gives you haste and versatility. Go for the piece with the higher item level regardless of the stats on the gear, because those stats do not matter at all once you step into a PvP related experience.

To those DKs who want to do the most optimal damage in arena, you are going to have to get your pve pants on because the item level for mythic raiding gear gives your pvp stat templates a nice boost in arena if you are maxed out. Holinka estimated that the difference would be 5% or so, but that is very worth it in my eyes, especially in higher rated PvP.


1. Fallen Crusader
2. Razorice

Rotation In PvP

There is no ideal rotation for a death knight in PvP because the way the rune system works. There is a lot of RNG built into the rotation, but the best way I can start you off is with this:

1. Make sure your target is slowed to enable your tundra stalker talent, whether this be Remorseless Winter, Chains of Ice, or your teammates slow, make sure they are slowed at all times.

2. Killing Machine procs only work with obliterate, so that is very simple.

3. Rime procs only work with howling blast now.

4. Try to keep your gathering the storm ability up with obliterates and then if you have no more runes to spend you can use howling blast to keep it rolling as well. This will increase your damage.

5. The best way to get a feel for it is to literally attack a target dummy for an hour or so until you are perfectly comfortable and quick enough to maximize your damage with your random rime and killing machine procs.


Here is a list of macros that you could copy and paste for your benefit.

[] http://pastebin.com/JYV4eHc9

Death Knight PvP Stream

Follow to see when I am live. I am always willing to answer questions.

[] https://www.twitch.tv/neroxz123

#4597150 Which player(s) did you look up to?

Posted Knaittiz on 11 August 2016 - 04:32 PM

View PostThaya, on 11 August 2016 - 04:30 PM, said:


i played DK in wotlk (was a total tryhard at the time) and when i watched him play on tournaments i'd just be like, "k this guy is on another lvl wtf"

pun master x D

#4596031 No more regionals for the french turbo druid

Posted Jim_Jim on 08 August 2016 - 09:09 PM

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(Désolé pour toi Lyanne :( )

#4595740 Who has the most rank 1 titles?

Posted Bersihasi on 07 August 2016 - 12:30 PM

View PostZaephyr, on 07 August 2016 - 11:55 AM, said:

yeah as in

when it was actually rank 1

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Ah yes back when it was actually rank1 :rolleyes:

#4595626 Who has the most rank 1 titles?

Posted dizzcord on 06 August 2016 - 09:05 PM

Easy question lol


#4592212 It's that time of the season again... part 2

Posted Nicholaes92 on 19 July 2016 - 10:26 PM

View PostEverRog, on 19 July 2016 - 08:53 PM, said:

Not ofence but for me USA its the last first world country id like to live in, its even behind of Greece LUL. Some people as me see this country as a corrupt, prepotent and egotistical one, just like half of the arena LFG people in wow i guess.

I think the best country in America is Canada, maybe ill visit it one day

Making actual opinions about a country without even visiting it irl and experience first hand how people act here = you being literally retarded.  Also even though stereotyping groups of people is a pretty adolescent way of thinking, it's even worse with countries like America.  You know how big we are?  How many different types of people are here?  I mean I could understand if you said something like "I don't want to go to Boston because I heard they were all egotistical douche bags". But Jesus Christ you just went full retard and said all of America.  

You might actually really like it here.  We have excellent programs and eeo employment for people with special needs such as yourself.

#4593274 Spriest in Legion?

Posted Siuox on 26 July 2016 - 03:48 PM

View PostBlackdawn, on 26 July 2016 - 05:45 AM, said:

sure bro duel some rogues, monks or warriors on legion beta server and show me.. im very very curious ;)

you have two gladiators and talk about duel balance? wtf

#4592755 Speculations of Comp Archetypes in Legion

Posted Snookypoo on 22 July 2016 - 10:45 PM

View Postjaimex, on 22 July 2016 - 10:32 PM, said:

not sure if you've seen shamans xD

No point in making any judgements right now. Plenty of time till seasons starts and like I said due to PvP templates you can literally have weekly balance changes because it doesn't effect any other aspect of the game.

#4592245 Showing Class Colors in Nameplates in Arena?

Posted Bronco30 on 20 July 2016 - 02:08 AM

Is there an option for this that I'm missing? My warrior shows class colors in nameplates in arena, but my rogue doesn't. They're just red. Is there some option I'm overlooking? Anyone else having this prob?

Edit: This is for the new legion nameplates

#4591885 Glad Cutoff + Disqlufid Wave

Posted Fizion on 18 July 2016 - 08:07 PM

View PostRegent, on 18 July 2016 - 07:36 PM, said:

Also, how hard would it be for Blizzard to just make a timer on one of those "countdown" sites for the season ending (one for EU and one for NA) so there is no confusion.
I miss the old days where you could see on your armory by the helmet under your rating whether you were in R1, glad, or duelist range (along with showing the results/dmg/healing/etc of every game played).

#4588467 Arena Master, bye

Posted Railander on 25 June 2016 - 11:14 PM

wait so did any of you actually give a shit about 5s?

#4587390 Legion Beta so far

Posted ROKMODE on 13 June 2016 - 07:41 PM

no use in complaining now

it's still in beta. we have no idea what will make it to retail

-said every person who started playing in MOP/WOD ever

#4588281 Arena Master, bye

Posted Thaya on 23 June 2016 - 08:56 PM

bring back flawless victor