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Deonto

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In Topic: Anyone trying out Fury this season?

21 March 2014 - 07:07 AM

View PostDrevi, on 21 March 2014 - 06:06 AM, said:

I got a 95k slam today (cant recall if on a monk or a hunter) with just proc trinket up. Avatar + banner + on use + dancing steel would make that almost 150k.
You can dump 4 of those in a CS. You can only dump 3 RBs.

If you manage to time it right to get 4 autos, and all of them hit and crit, and you get 3-4 HS crits, then yeah, fury burst is way ahead.

Too much risk for the difference IMO. Don't get me wrong, I like fury more than arms and as soon as I'm done gearing I will get a 2nd 2h and give it a try... But right now that's my opinion.

My numbers are w.o Avatar. But I do not recall ever getting a Slam to hit higher than ~130k. W.O CDs it would usually hit for 70kish I believe. I also didn't properly test everything in a controlled environment, though. So my numbers may very well be off.

But I mean, with what I saw, doing around 240k in one global with RB+HS is almost double of what Arms would realistically be doing in the same GCD. I'm not really interested in taking DW/Autos/Arms mastery into account(fury would always come out on top). With the damage you could always do in a single GCD, or even 2-3, Fury's damage WILL be higher.

And I mean, as long as you have proper CD usage, you will more than likely get a CD after ~2-3 Slams/RB combos...

I'm not really trying to make Fury look good. Or Arms look bad. I am just simply posting what I have personally seen/tested. Fury is, umm, not what most warriors are use to. And having to manage the MS debuff is kind of annoying.

Buuut, I dunno. It would be kind of fun if it ended up being viable. But if it is viable, ppl will prob QQ....as what would make it viable is broken burst(not just in CD usage).

In Topic: Anyone trying out Fury this season?

20 March 2014 - 08:55 PM

View PostDrevi, on 19 March 2014 - 11:12 PM, said:

Or you could be arms and be doing decent damage all the game without needing the help of anyone. We are not talking about "going for the kill" burst, just regular damage.


Yeah, it's a big deal. It's not just your crit that matters, it's their dodge/parry which will be ridiculous.
CS is not so important. If I remember right the math, it's like 10% damage on cloth and 16% in plate. Enrage in the other hand it's like 40-50% damage.

I'm not saying fury is bad or unplayable, but since the slam buff, the difference in burst is so small that you can't justify playing it over arms with nothing but the "fun factor".

Eh, Fury's burst in full prideful is way ahead of Arms. I mean, on the ptr I recall landing ~120-130k Slams at the most. Where RB had the potential to hit for 180k or so. But not only that, fury can afford to dump rage into HS while spamming damage(which had the potential to hit for 50-60k).

Something that people also don't realize is that Arms scaling is HORRIBLE... Whereas Fury scales amazingly. I dunno. On the ptr, though I did not get any serious 3s games in, it felt like Arms had more consistent damage.. where Fury obviously felt more bursty. I dunno if it's going to be viable but it very well could be.

Also, Fury's MS is rather annoying. As you have to manage it...as oppose to Arms where it's always up(really wish it was on BT).

In Topic: Missing gladiator helmets.

10 March 2014 - 09:34 AM

Missing s14 helmet(not showing anywhere).

In Topic: Gateway randomly dissapearing in arena

10 March 2014 - 09:02 AM

I'm pretty sure it has a duration(like 10mins or something?).

EDIT: And if it's not that, I dunno. Haven't seen gates just randomly despawn(before they should).

In Topic: S15 Fury can reach 35-40% crit

24 February 2014 - 10:39 PM

View PostEzyo1000, on 24 February 2014 - 09:43 PM, said:

Its not a bandwagon, some people (Myself included) Like the playstyle of fury better. Arms is boring and not everyone wants to be forced into one spec just like some people would like Assas or Combat to be viable options or Fire to be more popular, or even frost dks to work. There isn't anything wrong with people wanting their class to have the flexibility of say the shamans right now,  where every spec has a glad capable comp it can run.
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Stacking Full crit you should be at 35% unbuffed crit. Furys burst is alot better then arms for sure and the burst outside of cds is amazing, I have hit 160-185k Rbs on casters (Mages take the 185k hits more then other casters) with 50+k Heroic strikes, Add in another 60+k from auto hits connecting the same time RB and Heroic strike hit and you have knocked out close to half their hp in 1 gcd.

I have been playing fury on Ptr and its damage is definitely good. Its sustained is lower then arms still but the random Rb burst crits make up for it imo. I have seen 100k Rbs without cds popped. With mage buffs Fury is sitting at 40% crit, add in a class that can give the mastery buff and Fury is extremely Deadly.

My profs on the ptr are BS+JC and I have full crit gems minus the chest and helm socket bonuses and I believe I am sitting just below 33% crit. And I also have crit off pieces. Not exactly sure what I'm missing to make up for the 2% crit. Just wondering what I might be missing.

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