YVNG_CARL_YVNG, on 14 April 2016 - 09:47 PM, said:
this is an embarrassement. the comparison to Germany was even worse. matter of fact all the comparisons fail since she was talking about ideological groups, not religious ones. the ideology proposed by the islamic state is to be seperated from the general belief system of a muslim. as for germany, it wasn't just SS and SA members looting jewish stores. everyone tried to get the best of it, everyone tried to bring some kind of profit to himself. every single German who didn't (passively or actively) opposed the regime (there were lots of ways how people fought back) indirectly supported it. they are at fault. we are talking about nine out of ten people here. it is not a comparison. the peaceful majority has never been irrelevant, the opposite is the case. they are involved.
as for islam, it is a completely different scenario. we have groups like the peshmerga actively fighting a war against the islamic state. they are being held down by turkey, but europe is trembling in fear because turkey is important to solve the refugee situation. they're mortified, petrified. we have an obligation to act if we want to criticize. there are groups like east-asian muslims where radicals are practically nonexistant. there's sufis who are essentially non-violent. there are.......
islam has always been a personal religion, not an organized religion like christianity. now we have salafi groups who are being sponsored by the uae, paid to spread extremist ideology. while christianity has been building communities for centuries, islam has only started recently. there are barely any people spreading the word about secular islam. there are barely any people spreading the word about a modern, liberal, middle- and northern european islam. it exists. some muslims eat pork. some muslims don't wear a burka and don't make their wives wear a burka. if anything, we have to tackle the source of the problem. but the western world won't do that, because uae has so much precious oil. germany has been delivering weapons to the uae for fucking decades, guess what those were used for?
the goal of said salafi groups is to win over newcomers (ie: refugees) who generally have a worldview that is more comparable to that of a european (which is why they fled in the first place) than it is to that of a salafi extremist. when we are talking about muslim extremism we are referring almost exclusively to a minority of salafi arabs. the only reason why they got so powerful in the first place is because they benefited hugely from the destabilization (thanks fucking burgerland) and the knowledge & weaponry (thanks again fucking burgerland) brought to them in over thirty years of conflict. they benefit from a strong israel and a weak palestine, actively producing propaganda and creating a new scapegoat: the western world and jews. this is a problem we've brought upon us. muslims and jews have been living (mostly) peaceful for centuries and great britain had to fuck it all up with the treaties surrounding the birth of the state of israel.
it is exactly like the ugly burka girl said, you stupid niggers need to read a fucking book. islam is not homogenous in any way. the speaker is a worthless populist, everything she says has absolutely no substance and is nothing but big words to fire up the crowd. her pityful attempt at swooning over the americans talking about "4 dead" at the end makes me sick. she doesn't even offer a fucking solution. what is even remotely interesting about what she has to say? she acknowledges that there are extremists, but doesn't tell us how to deal with them.
why didn't america (or the western world in general) support the fucking kurds more? why are we batting an eye when russia is actively defending their interests in the syria conflict? those are real fucking issues we could be a part of, that is some positive change we could help bring along. but you people would rather bask in your supposed moral superiority, jerking off in a corner. if the extremists are all that matter then please go ahead and propose a fucking solution as to how to deal with them.
(you blow, reliuna.)
i don't know what exactly you are trying to say, but if you're saying that "killing half of germany's population solved the problem" then you're being ignorant.
after ww2 all nazi politicians with the exception of the highest officials just continued on with their posts. they were still in power. people were still clinging on to the ideology, just silently. it took germany more than 20 years (think the mid 1960s, the first time real change was happening) to get rid of that infection. change doesn't happen overnight. in the case of germany it took student protests and a german terrorist group actively killing off politicians that made career under hitler to even start a change in thinking. most people don't know about that, then again most people don't know anything about the history past 45 anyway.
if you were being ironic, just ignore my post i suppose.
great fucking job, i'm sure your family is proud of you. you're an embarrassment.
Islam isn't homogenous. You only need to look at the difference between Muslims in the United States, Egypt, Iran, and Indonesia, to know that. However. there are certain attitudes that are scarily present in Muslim countries, especially within the Middle East. I think those are cultural attitudes haven't gone away thanks to a lack of wealth, failed state institutions, etc., but that doesn't mean that the minute you start bringing in refugees, they'll suddenly change to a more European way of thinking. That simply does not happen in 90%+ of cases. You cannot change a lifestyle overnight.
And even if the vast majority of these people are nonviolent, and if those in warzones tend to disapprove of violent extremists, the rest of the population tends to have way too much support for rogue organizations like Hamas, the Islamic State, Boko Haram, al Shabaab, etc., especially since these groups often advocate similar sets of beliefs.
The more frightening example is that nearly every single American politician wants to continue more of the same geopolitics-as-usual bullshit that has done nothing but provoke the bee's nest over and over again. Either our leaders are incompetent, corrupt, or evil. Why have we inadvertently funded Syrian and Libyan extremists? How did we allow weapons from Benghazi to be shipped to Turkey and Syria? What's the point of NATO if members like Turkey seek to undermine our security in the Middle East? When are we due for another round of liberating and nation-building? I imagine Syria is "ripe for democracy". That scares me, since it seems like the reactionary extremist groups will continuously feed off of both anti-American and pro-Shariah sentiment to create a giant ideological clusterfuck that will continue to endanger the safety of everybody worldwide.
Maybe Islam is a red herring, and I definitely wouldn't discriminate against more secularly minded or reformed Muslims who seek asylum, but the fact of the matter is that the average Muslim holds beliefs that are complete anathema to Western society, and these belief systems are encouraged and perpetuated by "Muslim" institutions. Calling Islam "a personal religion" makes you ignorant of organized theocracies like Iran and Saudi Arabia, the historical caliphate, and the fact that Islam calls for a very specific brand of legal system in the form of shariah law. It's far more than personal, which makes integration a tremendously challenge. Unlike the United States, it seems like Europe has been horrible at integrating these people to be more like Europeans by the first/second generation, probably due to latent "white man's burden" racism that I often see over there. I can only see disaster in the long run.
Gangsta is cool , Nicolas is one of my all time fav male anime chars
Yeah he was definitely the most interesting character of the series, also props to the VA couldnt have been an easy job.
also you only get one chance at life and you don't marry an qt3.14 deaf girl
Reliuna, on 19 March 2016 - 02:57 PM, said:
throwback to my anime tattoo
am i proof that u can enjoy one anime without going full degenerate and spam-posting incest child porn?
Holy shit, I was coming into the thread expecting you bashin us for having different interests than you.
Have to admit that you're the last person I'd expect to have an anime tattoo - that's a pretty huge commitment even I wouldnt do.
Don't get me wrong I love and have tattoo's but an anime tattoo ist definitely an statement.
I was able to play the Lilium theme song on the piano back in the days
Can't believe the series is already 12 years old. Watched this together with Hellsing Ultimate for the first time years ago before getting into anime.
Having to be an otaku-neet without social interactions whatsoever to be able to enjoy good anime is an already disproven cliché.
When you would get to know me irl you sure as fuck wouldnt expect me to like or watch anime. It's not like I'm hiding my powerlevel it's just that while this is an interest I greatly enjoy I won't make it my Identity if you get what I mean.
Not wearing any weaboo related clothes or getting an anime tattoo on my body kinda includes that.