About disc vs holy, first of all disc in arena will never be good for the following reasons:
-The spec can't be buffed; as of today, using top 100 25m HC parses, disc priest averages 263k hps(second after shamans), holy priest averages 171k. So they can't buff stuff like mana efficiency , healing output etc for disc.
-As mentioned, battle fatigue and absence of 3x grace protection make things tragic for the spec.
-The spec is expected to work with atonement. In pvp, it doesn't work as you can't holy fire for 200k. It is more like 20k crit, into battle fatigue'd heal.
As for scaling, there is a reason why disc priest is %50 better than holy at high gear raiding environment. Holy priest scaling is comical and after playing some games on PTR I think it's pretty obvious that holy is going to be the pvp spec anyway. So it turns out that, the worst pve healer spec is the arena spec for priests.
On top of everything, priests got almost every cool iconic ability either nerfed or removed with close to no compensation.(as mentioned by posters above). So we are at a point where priest is: -The only healer that doesn't have an additional cc break -The only healer that almost every enemy comp can break their cc without trinket. -The only healer that the enemy team can land a kill through uninterrupted healing.
Also we are always so bad, we need to overwhelm Blizzard with arguments, ideas, "proof" that our class is horrible, so that they introduce buffs that allow us arena participation.A couple of months ago we got lucky with Pom bug, excluding that, priest is gonna end up as 5th best healer of the expansion. Paladins have similar problems, except they often start good end up terrible, and they need to spam forums for buffs so that they can be somewhat viable. I think educating Blizzard should not be part of the process of playing/enjoying a class, They have access to numbers, they know as we do that priests have done horribly, so did paladins but they chose not to buff. I mean really look how bad priests and paladins are and look how great shamans and druids are.
So my advice is, just reroll immediately, possibly to shaman as the classes share some characteristics and stop wasting time with posts , with the hopes of getting buffed to a "viable" state. And finally, if you are making it work, kudos and best of luck to you.
If they revert Spirit Shell nerf, you can always heal mongo shit with crazy openers as disc
if my grandfather had 4 balls he would be a flipper.
on a serious note: why in the history of wow arena were you pickin a healing priest ?
easy A) DISPELS B ) good CC/manaburn C) DMG assist
A) We had 2 def 2 off dispels. Now we are the worst dispellers in game (with pala and monk) cause we can't remove courses.
Shammy has also offensive dispels and nowadays a lot of dps classes can dispel offencively ... even dks ... i mean .. ok ..
Notice: shammy had tools to make up for the lack of def dispels like Grounding and ranged interrupt. They kept it, even tho on nerfed cds, but they still have em. How did they compensate priests ? Yeah that's right. nothing.
B ) mana burn gone. broken mecchanic ? Oh well, priest is the only ooming healer anyway... lol. Druid and Pala can't possibly go oom. S hammies, meh.. it's possible yet very hard. CC lol. Let's face it: we have roflmao Roots OR MC (defo unviable on anything except 2s but hey, who cares about 2s ?) OR Gay fiend which drs our other CC and it's 1 shottable with a fart. Yeah, you can even macro it unlike totems. Gj blizzard. Then we got our fear which is the easiest cc by far to break in game. What other halers have ? Druids have the best cc in game with glyph + gloves bonus = cast it from Stormwind. Plus either blind aoe or stun. Roots amd hybernate too just cause they can. And also Typhon, great spell to interrupt casts too. Shammies have Cap totem, frost shock snares, hex,earthbinding. Pala LOL have Repentence (or fear with 15 secs cd), HoJ, blind and kick. Monk has silencing kick, paralyse leg swipe. But hey, we got psyfiend. LMAO
3) Dmg assist. And here we go: from best dmg in game for a healer (either with SW:P that actually did the same dmg it does now with 5x hp pools +HF and smite. OR MS + MB, decent dmg and shadow tree involved.worth takin a chance to bait an interrupt). Now we got AMAZING HF 13k hits and 22 k smites that if interrupted are like GG cause with our uber healing we won't EVER recover. Other healers :
Monk going bruce lee. Pala with holy prism, holy shock and . denounce (rather amazing how it negate crits on the target). Druid .... heart of the willd. PERIOD. like ... PERIOD. The only healer in a worse spot (worst for dmgassist) is shammy. rest is superior.
priest is viable ? YES. Priest is good ? No. Priest is the choice to go ? Definitely not. When you see RMP being run with a druid cause .. it's just better ? you die a little bit inside. Priest can still be played .. problem is nobody worth more than bongwater rating won't pick you cause they have a mongoloide friend with green buttons who's just better.
Last but not least : Rofl symbiosis iceblock. well played blizzard.
Idk, things are okay. They added crossrealm arena, removed pve items, made wpvp possible recently, made some weird elite gear system which ultimately turned out alright and removed advantages of ilvls, etc. Most of this was done over halfway through MoP but that's okay. Having said that, I can't wait to sit in a giant guild castle watching slaves chop wood while my skirmish queues pop.
Bascially looking for an Updated Hpriest guide && Pros - Cons of Holy vs Disc
So i've been playing my warlock and recently que'd as MLP and lost 8 games in a row and bombed my 3s rating. So I stopped playing him and starting leveling an old priest i've always loved.
Holy priests just feel so easy for me to play. Haven't messed around with disc but a few questions regarding play styles.
I've just been trying to gear him up since it was an alt with a huge cap, recently hit 1700 with pugging warriors from Oque with no skype..Anyhow..
As far as holy,
How often am I using binding heal? Is it worth it over mana and me trying to LoS heal myself after ive gotten the warrior up. I'm basically just PoM, FoL if it's instant, or Chastise, renew and feather to keep his pressure up. I run OOM pretty fast if i'm being trained and longer fights i'm constantly trying to LoS and drink every chance i'm given. I Dispell everytime there is a HoT or anything on the target.
I've seen a large portion of priest running RMP as disc or just rogue/disc. Why disc over holy?
I've been told from multi R1 friends of mine priests are shitty healers higher rating and anyone with a brain and stop them.
1.You do not priest
2. You reroll druid
4. You collect 2.2k glad
Except, those other DPS specs have almost never been viable, so there is no choice to 'choose between a different spec'. For example, Fury has always been trash. Frost DK has had what, 2 good seasons? S6 and S9. Rogues don't have seasons where 1 spec is bad and the others are good (except maybe early WotLK when everyone played Mut) etc.
Hybrids are almost never 'completely' bad in 1 season in the same way that pure classes can be, they almost always have other options.
And since we were talking about classes, it doesn't mean shit if you as a healer don't want to play a DPS, it's still the same class.
Sorry I kept the list short because I incorrectly assumed when I said "and so on", you would understand the rest.
Warlocks switching between destro, affliction and some demo, rogues switching between sub and mutilate, mages switching between frost and fire, occasional arcane.
Let me try again, you can not compare arena viability of 2 classes when 1 can fill 3 roles(melee, caster, healer) where as the other one can only be one type of dps. Especially when viability requires transition between dps and healer. Your "class" becomes something entirely different due to the fact that healer skillset and dps skill set are completely different, where as dps class changing spec has the same ROLE.
I don't play dps and If I wanted to play dps, I would roll one. So no, if my healing specs become not viable, there is no option for me, i.e "no big deal if disc sucks go shadow", to me that's equivalent to "my class is bad"
That's why you can't generalize all specs of hybrid classes.