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#4526481 C9 WoW Team

Posted kubzy on 23 October 2015 - 11:32 AM


#4515309 The events of EU Regionals

Posted Infernion on 06 October 2015 - 02:08 PM

Hey everyone!

I've been reading a lot of stuff on the forums about the things that went down at the EU regionals this weekend, and I was thinking people would like some clarification/update from someone who was actually a part of it, instead of all these rumours.

I'd like to start off by debunking the rumour that Nolifers team supposedly reported Xonika for accountsharing to get him disqualified. The team of Reawakened 1 was in no way responsible for what happened to my team, just like we did not report their team in some pathetic attempt of payback. We respect each other as both players and persons, get along really well and just wanted a fair and exciting tournament.

When we arrived at the hotel thursday, Xonika told our team that he had received an e-mail by Blizzard saying he had gotten a 72-hour suspension on his account for account sharing, which put his account in bad standing for the weekend. Remembering that he had logged his own account from his girlfriends computer earlier that week, he asked his girlfriend to check her e-mail aswell, and just as expected she had also received a warning and what I believe was a message saying she would be ineligible to receive any titles this season.

After having discussed this issue as a team, we thought it'd be best to mention it to the ESL staff to make sure there would be no problem, as it was surely all just a misunderstanding caused by the automatic detector system Blizzard is using to prevent account sharing. The ESL staff told us they would contact Blizzard and thought, just like we did, that this wouldn't be a problem. During thursday and friday we had several conversations with the ESL staff, asking if there was any news on the matter. There wasn't, so we assumed that we would be allowed to participate on the same terms as other teams in the tournament.

When we woke up Friday, we ate some quick breakfast and went to the O2 Arena around 8.30 I believe, as we had to help Blizzard promote the teams better by taking pictures and shooting videos of everyone. This whole process was very poorly organized, and instead of just telling each team when they had to be at the different filming locations so everyone could practice while waiting, we all had to sit and wait in a locker room for several hours.

By the time all teams was done with this entire process consisting of individual and group photos, individual and group filming, filming of the team leaving a limousine, filming of the team walking around and lastly an interview, the time was around 16-17, and we could finally start setting up our characters on the tournament realm and get some practice in.

There was just one big problem with this process though. While the teams this year consisted of 4 players, there was only 3 computers per team. This meant you had to "sacrifice" one player, and basicly prioritize practising your main setup, needless to say that my team prioritized our shatter over our MLS. All the teams played a lot of wargames against each other, and when the clock hit 21, we were told that we had to leave. We left feeling pretty confident that we would place amongst the top 3, as long as we wouldn't choke on stage.

The games saturday was scheduled to start around 12 I believe, which made most teams wake up around 8-9 to get some good practice in before the actual tournament. Blizzard fixed taxis for us to the O2 arena, and upon the arrival we were all pretty pumped for the event, as the amount of people standing in line outside was pretty big (I'm sure people came to watch Heroes of the Storm or Hearthstone). Skipping the line was pretty awesome, and once we got settled we got quite a few of wargames in, once again feeling pretty confident.

Around 11.45, 15 minutes before we were scheduled to play, the top Blizzard employee present came to tell us, that Xonika could possibly be disqualified from the tournament. We tried to explain him the issue, and that it was all just a big misunderstanding, since none of us had been boosting  in the period between the 1st qualifier and regionals. He was super stubborn on the matter, but wanted to make sure no actions was taken that would punish an innocent team, so he decided to double check. 5 minutes before we were supposed to play Blizzard confirmed that Xonika was indeed disqualified, and his pro player badge was confiscated and he was escorted out of the arena. He wasn't even allowed to stay in the arena and watch his team and everyone else play!

While I was explaining to the other teams what was happening, I was told to shut the fuck up, as apparantly I wasn't allowed to do so. The admin was obviously really stressed out and frustrated by the situation aswell, and did come to apologize to me later after the tournament, which I respect him for. It was obviously a heat-of-the-moment kind of thing.

After several players failed attempts at challenging the decision that was made, including our opponents Fewen, Souken, Wafflez and Pyrocta, we realized nothing could be done. At this time me, Froffsy and Livin was pretty demotivated and mad, and Froffsy and Livin didn't even want to try to compete, which I fully understood. We did however go through the options we had, and due to Livin not wanting to set up his druid, we decided for me to set up a holy paladin to play shatter, which I have never played before. Blizzard gave me 20 minutes to do this, meaning I forgot to bind abilities like execution sentence.

The games started, and we lost our first game as shatter vs jungle. A fun fact to mention is that everyone actually lagged out in the end of the game for around 5-10 seconds, but there was no referee behind us to see this, so Blizzard claimed that no one disconnected. People could have used add-ons while playing at the backstage, and Blizzard wouldn't have noticed. The second game Froffsy and Livin wanted to play RMPala with arcane mage, due to no one actually caring at this point, which we obviously lost aswell.

In the meantime of our series, Nolifers team had knocked Fritterus, Cervantes & Cavyx to the losers bracket, meaning that we now had to face them.  We lost in a close series (Kappa) 2-0, and was thrown out of the tournament as 7-8th place. Nolifer now had to face Solari Gaming Yellow, and after having won the first game and being ahead in the series 1-0, there was a break that was prolonged several times. It ended up being around 25 minutes, whereafter Reawakened 1 was told to come meet Blizzard backstage. At this point the tournament was kind of a joke, and people didn't think it could get much worse - They were wrong! Nolifer was told that he was also disqualified. Apparantly Blizzard had been having a meeting since disqualifying Xonika, with some of the heads of their eSports department, and gone through every single player to find out that Nolifer was the only other player who had also done boosts in the time period between the 1st qualifiers and regionals.

Obviously their team was also not satisfied with this decision, and tried to challenge it with no luck. There was actually a lot of teams that tried to have the disqualified teams play in the tournament with no luck. Wafflez, Souken and Fewen even asked the Blizzard admin if all the teams could vote for it, and have them play if the teams would agree. All ideas was shut down.

They chose to drop out of the tournament instead of playing RPD, meaning that Three Languages One Team was no longer in the losers bracket. They had now advanced to the winners Bracket, and had  to face Solari Gaming Yellow. This also meant, that my team was supposed to face Reawakened 1 in the losers bracket instead of TLOT, which we got a free win for as they dropped out. As TLOT won Solari Gaming Yellow in the winners bracket, we had to face Solari Gaming Yellow on the mainstage.

I convinced Livin to set up his druid for us to play MLD, as I figured we maybe had a chance with that setup. This is where it got really funny. Blizzard didn't even show our promotional videos, probably because Xonika was in them. They didn't even mention the disqualification, and actually said that we had been practising MLD for the tournament. I'm sure Venruki, Vhell and Lore was told that it had to be this way, they had to do what they were told of course. I'm pretty sure they even tried to challenge the decision made by Blizzard off-screen, so props to them!

As we didn't really have much time to set up our characters, I forgot to track all enemy debuffs, meaning I couldn't chain any CC in the first game. Livin also forgot glyphs in the first game, aswell as forgetting to bind dispell for both games. It was kind of a disaster, and we ended up losing once again.


On the entire ban situation, I can say with 100% certainty, that Xonika logging his account from his girlfriends computer trigged the investigation of his account. He might not have gotten disqualified only because of him doing this, but it's what caused the investigation. Xonika didn't boost from the 1st qualifier to regionals. We knew that Lagyna had already been disqualified for doing this, why would we take the chance?

The Blizzard admin kept mentioning the fact that they looked into the accounts from the timeperiod between the 1st qualifier and regionals, but Xonika got the suspension for having boosted since the account creation. The rules was very inconsistent, just as they have been during the online qualifications. He was disqualified based on the fact that his account was in bad standing during the tournament.

It amazes me how Blizzard can say that they are 100% sure no other teams boosted in this time period, as we know for a fact that they did. Xonika didn't account share in the time period that was in the rules. If Blizzard was gonna disqualify people for having accountshared since the creation of their accounts, no teams would have been playing at regionals. Literally everyone there has done boosts, and does them every season, meaning they should find some other way to punish the players,  instead of disqualifying them from the only tournament that is held every year.

The question is - What will happen next year? What will happen at Blizzcon? Surely they will have to actually CLEAR players now, else ANYONE could get disqualified the next tournament for having boosted since account  creation.


I know I might sound super salty, and yes, this does indeed suck. But I'm happy for the teams that made it, and I enjoyed the weekend a lot. It was nice to finally get to meet all the players, and we all had a lot of fun, even though the mood took a big hit for some players saturday.

I thought I just wanted to clear all of this up, as Blizzard seems to be trying to hide what happened from everyone. The community deserves to know exactly what went down, which is why I wrote this wall of text that most people will probably not care about.

Once again, congratulations to all the 3 teams that made it, no one should have any hard feelings towards them, this is Blizzards fault. No teams reported each other for account sharing. Remember the fact that they could've qualified either way, it wasn't set in stone who was gonna qualify.

If you have any questions ask them here, and I'll answer them as fast as I can :)

#4512867 what a joke joke joke of a company

Posted Gelu on 03 October 2015 - 02:33 PM

breaking news,
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#4512759 what a joke joke joke of a company

Posted Infernion on 03 October 2015 - 01:58 PM

how do i play holy pala

#4512648 what a joke joke joke of a company

Posted Xonika on 03 October 2015 - 01:36 PM

Thanks for the support and I understand people dnt care but for the sake of the people that do, I can explain. I arrive in prague and have 1 of the greatest times of my life meeting the people I met and just having a great day.  That night I check my email and find I got 72 ban only along with my gf gettin a warning on her account altough we've lived together for over a year ive never logged my new acc (1 I set up specifically for qualifiers which was completely clean and passed all 2 pre checks before the qualifiers, about a week ago my dad came over to visit from ireland, staying for 3 days in my room where my pc is, he slept quite early and ofc I was bored with my gf currently being on a nightshift so I logged my acc on her pc) as of recent blizzard has a new system which tracks pc id of some sort instead of the standard ip address ( which is why boosters who use proxies got banned before the qualifer/during the checks eg. Gelubabas team. I showed the email I got to multiple esl admins/rederees and multiple blizz staff who I asked for a contact number because I didnt have time to sort this via ticket, despite my worry every assured me that this happens sometimes and should be fine, not to worry. After practicing for 3hours this morning I was confident we would place atleast top 3 after being very successful in wargames. 5mins before the opening game I arrive with my fresh banana and nice cold water. I get told by some guy im dq and I cant play, I question him and many others and so did every other team(excluding pjke and cavys team who were starting their match. After 20mins and appearntly triple checking with blizzard, im dq and have to leave the premises. I assure you, I and many others did all we could to find out the reason of my "bad standing" account. I asked many blizz staff for a contact number to atleast explain/ask them to check location/ip etc, I was told to ask x guy who sent me to y guy and so on. Lagyna and I left after we figured no1 cares and it was too late to get un-dq considering other games had been played. Its hard to read over and check everything on my shit phone so excuse the grammar and I dnt expect any reply and will ignore most arrogant and idiotic comments coz believe it or not ima go have some fun in this sick weather and beautiful city. Thanks to every1 for the support and the guys ive spent the amazing players ive met in the last days.

#4513551 EU Regionals bois

Posted Supatease on 04 October 2015 - 01:56 AM

I don't appreciate people trolling me or making fun of me when I almost single handedly have hosted EU tournaments for 2 years. Its an insult when you say "why is that random guy" hosting this event. I put a lot of time and unpaid work into trying to make these tournaments awesome and I'd appreciate people backing off with the trolling.

#4513128 EU Regionals bois

Posted Nyeshyo on 03 October 2015 - 05:33 PM

That feel when ur name is Cavyx and everyone gets DQ'd


#4512981 EU Regionals bois

Posted Chanimal on 03 October 2015 - 03:36 PM

I feel so fucking bad for nolifer/xonika's team, oh my god......

#4512801 EU Regionals bois

Posted Häxantutto on 03 October 2015 - 02:08 PM

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#4501485 Lets talk regional games guis

Posted metaldiablo on 17 September 2015 - 07:46 AM

@rmd hate

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#4498815 Lets talk regional games guis

Posted grisenx on 13 September 2015 - 10:21 PM

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#4498560 Lets talk regional games guis

Posted Gelu on 13 September 2015 - 09:05 PM

Roastys team is sick, its like watching an EU team

#4483971 NA & EU Qualifiers aftermath

Posted jaimex on 23 August 2015 - 10:42 PM

View PostLolflay, on 23 August 2015 - 10:03 PM, said:

"prists pley wit ferals mages and rogues"

"omg rog meg not die and kill, and prist struggle to pley d game"

"we lost omg stupid gey cless :<"

Paladins, Shamans and Druids are literally on the same tier of strength right now, while Discs and Mistweavers are below them, not by a huge margin, but by a noticeable one. To claim otherwise, you have to be retarded.

You've been pretty ok these past 2 or so months, are you ready to take the crown of retard king yet again ? It's right here, come pick it up if you want it. To claim that Disc is fine by listing 1 or 2 people playing it is like claiming rets are super OP just because you lose to Mystic playing a Ret pala. People play what's stronger, it's stupid to play 20000 games on a certain class just to have a winning chance against someone with 5000 games. Those are exceptions, not the rule.

the difference between discs is great though; when you look at what the class can do and you see what some of the "best" (hydra etc) do it's actually laughable, things that would make any other player of any other spec be 2k allow terrible priests to exceed - for example, their whole team being 10% and spamming purge and then losing, crying about disc not having enough utility. A good disc can always succeed this expansion/season, whereas a good ret often cannot.

You can call me retarded all you want, I don't care, at the end of the day the class with the best ability to avoid CC, the best mobility, the best throughput, the best offensive pressure in the game through purges, one of the strongest synergies in the game through fear combined with the classes they play with, is always going to be good and just because literally every player who plays disc needs to think about what they do before they do it does not make a spec bad, it just makes them bad.

That's my opinion, I'm probably wrong idk but in my experience disc is way way better than druid.

#4478552 Balanced EU qualifier team

Posted crazieh on 17 August 2015 - 05:11 PM

View PostDizzeeyo, on 17 August 2015 - 02:03 PM, said:

Certainly amusing how quickly a thread can change from everyone competing to hate on people while they see everyone else is also hating, to everyone now desperate to defend the same people once they see everyone else defending them (including some of the people who were originally hating in the first place)

Not to be rude Dizzeeyo and it's okay for everyone to have their opinion, but I feel like you're completely irrelevant and noone really cares what you think. You just popup on every thread with something completely useless to say because you're incredibly worthless in every single way, not a single word that disperses from your lips has any value or meaning so I really feel like you should just take a step back and be more of a spectator than a contributor on the beautiful arena junkies forum.

Anyways, what Joe said is nearly completely right. Starting some IRL war over this is so fucking weird and standard of the WoW community lol, but it's so obvious that 99% of you would have ALL done the same thing if you had thought of it / think it could've worked. Who wouldn't? With this amount of money on the line and you see something you can use in your favour to get a second chance at a huge prize pool, why the fuck would you not go for it, you'd just stay at home and not play just to say 'at least we were honourable'? There's only ever 1 meaningful tournament a year for WoW and who knows where you'll be in a year's time, you obviously cease the opportunity and do whatever it takes right? Especially if it's as easy as making a single post to ESL and getting a second chance passively lol.

A bunch of us were super pissed at Sadstory for abusing MC bug last year (seems quickly forgotten) and I was really disgusted by it, but in reality if I was in the same position, I'd also do it with that amount of cash on the line. Stop acting like you're all angels and wouldn't do the same thing =)

PS: doesn't mean you can't be mad, it's like Joe says, direct it in ESL's direction since they're the ones who made it so easy to do.

#4478183 Balanced EU qualifier team

Posted Jim_Jim on 17 August 2015 - 09:32 AM

Healingstat is a nice guy. He is the only man i met in 25 years of depressing life who is paler than me.
He's like the white background of skype.