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#4271569 Leekzy's Frost Mage Guide for 6.0.3

Posted leek on 21 November 2014 - 11:07 AM

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Hi there, I am Leekzy - a swedish guy with a (very) swedish accent who has played Mage since season 2, achieving Rank 1 and Gladiator multiple times with my highest rating ever being 3114 in Season 15. This is the first guide I've written for AJ, and it's aimed at a bit more inexperienced and newer players - although you may find that you can take something from this as an advanced player aswell!

Shoutout to Vanguards, whos Retribution guide served as an excellent template!

So what is actually different in Warlords of Draenor as a Frost Mage?

1.) Tons of abilities have been removed from the game (R.I.P. Evocation, Fire Blast and Mana Gem) and a lot of the mechanics of the spells/talents/specializations which weren't removed has changed. I recommend reading this summary if you haven't checked it out already for a lot of solid info.

2.) M-M-M-MULTISTRIKE. New stats have been added to the game which change the way we gear drastically due to the changes to some of our core mechanics (i.e. Brain Freeze).

3.) Removal of Improved Counterspell and other "blanket" silences! This is a change which affects us immensely - and although it might seem bad at first this is actually (imho) a buff to mages - more on that later!

4.) Der..Deep* Freeze now breaks on damage.

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Oh well! This might seem bad at first glance (and it's definitely a nerf), but it plays out pretty well in the actual gameplay. Let's delve into the world of Crowd Control (CC) and getting creative with Deep Freeze later on in the guide!

5.) Diminishing Returns (DR)! A lot of  changes have been made to DR's in WoD, most of which you can read here.
This changes the way a lot of Mage comps play and it's something that should be kept in mind going into WoD as a Frost Mage!

Important to note is that if you play with Ice Nova it also DR's Polymorph.

6.) WHERE THE F**K IS MY FROST NOVA???+++

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(If you're spec'd into Ice Nova, which yes, you probably are, join in)

Why... should you play a Mage in WoD?

First of all - the class is actually really fun to play in arenas at the moment! A lot of changes in WoD makes it an overall smoother and much more enjoyable experience to play a Mage in the arena. I feel like we still have a really high skill-cap and can play with every class that's in the game currently.


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Talents

Below is my default arena spec - but this is something that can and will change depending on what composition (comp) that you play and play versus.

Remember that nothing is set in stone guys, experiment, have fun - if you see something and think "hey this might make me kick that huntards ass" then by all means go for it.

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What's following is my personal approach - I feel like these are really stable choices with the most arguable one being the level 45 and 100 tier.

Level 15:
I recommend: Posted Image

This talent is amazing to have as a Mage - it really opens up for a lot of "plays" to be made both defensively and offensively and is just solid mobility in general. Practically a baby Rocket Boots. With 25 sec cooldown (CD). Go figure.

Level 30
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I feel like this just is the most solid choice here, sure a lot of classes have some form of purging ability which can get rid of Ice Barrier but use it with good timing and it's still a really solid defensive out and CD. Alter Time was changed and no longer resets your buffs (only HP and position), from my testing it's highly situational in its current state.

Level 45

I recommend: Posted Image

Ayay, everything is viable???

RoF is just a solid choice which enables us to get  CC rolling easier, something that is useful vs every comp you can face.

All of these talents have really good specific uses, however since Ice Ward now DR's with our other novas and RoF is a better CC to peel with Ice Ward will mostly see use versus comps that sit on the Mage from start to finish.

Frostjaw can actually be AMAZING as a peel/setup vs certain spellcleaves since it's actually a Silence - be aware Dwarfs' can remove this with Stoneform though!

Level 60
I recommend: Posted Image

Amazing talent, pretty self-explanatory.

Can be used if you are locked out on your Frost-tree to enable Ice Block anyway.

Level 75
I recommend: Posted Image

Although Frost Bomb does alright damage the utility and on demand burst that Ice Nova offers is in my opinion too good to pass up.

There are so many uses for this outside of just doing damage as it acts as a mini-stun (interrupts casts momentarily for example) that hits Area-of-Effect (AoE).

Level 90
I recommend: Posted Image
Incanter's Flow is a rather awkward talent to understand at first but once you get the hang of it it's pretty simple: you deal more damage, and if you time it well you deal A LOT more damage.
Mirror Images does a lot of damage aswell and can definitely be the way to go vs some comps, I predict that it mostly will see use in 1v1 and 2v2.


Level 100
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This talent is awkward to use, awkward to understand and it covers the screen in lazer beams. Fear not though - once you lose your Crystal virginity I doubt that you will want to go back to Comet Storm!

Although the CD of Prismatic Crystal is rather long (1,5 minutes) its definitely worth it over the underwhelming damage that Comet Storm offers in my opinion, and with some solid placement and CD usage (Lance with Icicles, 2x Frost Novas with Frozen Orb ticking is insane damage) you can actually close to slay an entire team with this talent!
Comet Storm also went down in "value" for me after they changed it so that you can't use it while being locked out on your Frost-tree.

Glyphs

A lot of choices here.
I change around my glyphs a lot depending on what I am playing vs. Most of these are pure preference!

Primary Glyphs:
Glyph of Polymorph - Highly recommended if you play with any class that might put a DoT on anything.

Glyph of Icy Veins - Now gives you 45% Multistrike instead of spell haste. Click, clack boom. Loss of the utility the haste gives though, I swap around this glyph from time to time.

Glyph of Ice Block - Makes you immune to all spells for 3 seconds after using Ice Block and unleashes a Frost Nova around you. This glyph can both save lives and act as an offensive tool, however it lost some of its value offensively for me due to the blanket silence change.

Glyph of Spellsteal - Spellsteal also heals you for 4% of your maximum health when you use it.
Really good glyph for surviving in 2v2/3v3, watch your mana however as it's very mana intensive to spam!

Glyph of Splitting Ice - Your Ice Lance and Icicles hit an additional target for 50% damage. This glyph feels really good with Prismatic Crystal, test it out for yourself.

Glyph of Deep Freeze - takes Deep Freeze of the Global Cooldown (GCD). Doesn't feel as mandatory anymore due to Deep changes.

Glyph of Regenerative Ice - You heal 4% of your maximum HP every second while in Ice Block. Really situational for 3v3, has uses in 2v2 though!

Enchants/Stat-priority

My opinion on stats comes from discussing gear with other top level Mages and testing different gear pieces out - if you got any input please reply to the thread and I'll consider editing the post!

Int > Multistrike > Haste >= Crit > Versatility = Mastery

Recommended Gems:

Multistrike.

Recommended Enchants:

Neck: Multistrike, 50-75
Cloak: 100 Multistrike and 10% Movement Speed
Rings: 30-50 Multistrike
Weapon: Mark of the Frostwolf (Multistrike), currently it costs a round 10-15k on most servers though so Mark of the Shattered Hand works just fine.

Which comps can I play in WoD as a Frost Mage?

So far it feels like you can play with pretty much every class!

If I were to predict our strongest comps based on my current experience in wargames and skirmishes I would say that these comps all will be viable:

Warrior/Mage/Healer

Rogue/Mage/Healer

Feral/Mage/Healer


Moonkin/Mage/Healer

SP/Mage/Healer

Lock/Mage/Healer


DK/Mage/Healer
might make a truly solid appearance aswell, although I haven't gotten around to trying the comp out!

Macros:

These are the macros I personally use, I recommend checking out previous Mage guides on AJ for more input since not a lot has changed macro-wise!
CLICK HERE FOR MACROS


Gearing your Mage for Arenas
Gear according to stat priorities and get 4 piece for the set bonus (serves as dispel protection mainly!) with the legs for maximum multistrike.

MY ARMORY LINK

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Gameplay!

Great, you got your Mage setup and ready to play!
... and now what?

Whether you come from TBC, WotLK, Cata or MoP into WoD one thing is certain - Mage now plays differently from any other expansion.

While I am sure the removal of Deep-Blanket for kills confuses and annoys a lot of Mages (how am I even able to kill something on my own anymore?) it's important to remember that adapting to the metagame is the single most important going into a new expansion. There is light at the end of the tunnel guys, it's just a different tunnel we're in!

Mages now rely on getting solid CC rolling on the enemy team and ramping up your damage to be able to unleash at the moment you want to burst - for examples stacking up a few icicles so that you know that when that CC lands on the enemy healer you are ready to do massive damage.

A lot comes down to managing your Ice Novas, if you are able to stack up 2 or even just 1 with some solid Fingers of Frost (FoF) or Brain Freeze (BF) procs you can do insane amounts of burst damage! Mashing the abilities right as they pop up on cooldown might make you do overall more damage but gimp your potential burst, something which is important to understand to be able to land kills.

The removal of blanket silences has really helped us land CC - fake casting is now better than ever and this change lets you do something you rarely could do since the end of WotLK - actually Deep Freeze someone, fake a Counterspell (CS) or interrupt and then actually get a Polymorph or Ring of Frost cast off straight afterwards!

A neat little trick you can use is to simply Deep Freeze the enemy healer, start casting RoF and tank the interrupt while spamming your Polymorph binding - this guarantees that you will land either the RoF or the Poly on the healer. This was not a possibility before simply due to the fact that you got blanket silenced even though you managed to fake the CS.

Another tip is to track the Dispel Cooldown of enemy healers - this was incredibly important in MoP and it still is, maybe even more so in WoD! This truly allows us to start abusing the beauty of Polymorph and our other CC's. I personally use Gladius to track it, I'm sure there are other addons which does this aswell.

Last but not least I want to share a simple yet very effective trick that I wish I knew of when I started playing mage for getting cross-CC (Crowd-Controlling multiple opponents in the arena) rolling.

Say you're looking to CC a healer, but you need to prevent a Shadow Priest from Mass Dispelling him out of your Polymorph and you do not have your CS off cooldown. What you can do is that you Polymorph the SP, while spamming your focus Deep Freeze macro on the enemy healer - these two spells should land at the same time, basically starting the double-CC. You can then cast a RoF on top of the Deep Freeze and voila, you just controlled two players by yourself without having to mess with dispels and whatnot.

Mage Streams:

Venruki
Jahmilli
Hynnix
Xaryu
Daisyduke
Proffset
Leekzy
Nolifer
Friedkitteh
Watchmeblink

Thanks a lot for reading, hopefully this gave you some form of help going into Warlords of Draenor as a Frost Mage - if you got any questions feel free to PM me on AJ or Twitch.TV - I'll try my best to reply to everyone.

In frost we trust,
Leek

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#4140479 Most overrated players

Posted crazieh on 12 June 2014 - 03:15 AM

pointless thread, just a platform for people to call each other bad

#aj


#4140455 Most overrated players

Posted Glink on 12 June 2014 - 02:18 AM

Venruki
Novoz
Hamsham
Doomsen
Rynd

I don't think you can say Reckful is overrated tbh. Say what you will about the guy, but he is an excellent gamer. Every class and season he played he was one of the top, granted he had good partners and such but still, I think he was one of the best ever. Not even a fanboy or a fan of him necessarily, just saying, you have to give credit where it is due.


#4139024 Best Underrated Player (Hidden Talent)

Posted Saikx on 10 June 2014 - 09:32 PM

There is only one true god


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#4121498 ProGameX WoW Arena May 2014 Tournament (3v3)

Posted Chickz on 15 May 2014 - 01:25 PM

View PostMoehrchenlol, on 15 May 2014 - 12:26 PM, said:

They should make a rogue mage healer tourny only,even without pricemoney.
Would be the most fun to watch.


no.


#4117151 Yaspresents Online 3v3 Tournament - Team List

Posted Jontex on 10 May 2014 - 11:26 AM

View PostUrbandurban, on 10 May 2014 - 05:25 AM, said:

So happy there's no LSDs. RMD and LSD2 is miles more fun to watch than LSD. Even kitty is more interesting than LSD.
Elaborate on this.


#4070774 #FreeChas

Posted rizzy on 04 March 2014 - 01:54 AM

RELEASE THE KRAKEN.


#4041518 Blukstack Rage Compilation by Zunniyaki

Posted noliferqtxd on 26 January 2014 - 08:02 PM



Enjoy!


#4036213 Bananasplitx Rank one holy paladin stream

Posted Chickz on 19 January 2014 - 03:58 AM

Hey!

Recently started streaming some 3s on my pally and some other classes, Pally usually around 2.5 mmr as paladin shatterplay.

If you are interested in top holy paladin play then following my channel would be appreciated!

http://www.twitch.tv/bananasplitx

A few intense clips vs a 2.5 RMPala

http://www.twitch.tv...plitx/c/3571923

http://www.twitch.tv...plitx/c/3571913

ty!


#4030306 yaspresents tournament discussion

Posted Kekmoo on 11 January 2014 - 05:24 PM

View Postjaimex, on 11 January 2014 - 05:22 PM, said:

lol healingstat.
Are you sure you want to go down this path?


#4027369 These Twitch Streamers

Posted stalebagel on 08 January 2014 - 10:22 PM

i don't know about you guys but i'm more interested in staring at yoni's massive fake tits


#4028167 Yaspresents Guild 3v3 Tournament

Posted Chickz on 09 January 2014 - 03:26 PM

go talbytree !


#4028359 RE: IMO Promiscuous Streamers on Twitch (Sponsored by Clorox) ft. Vince McMahon

Posted Bigmoran on 09 January 2014 - 08:40 PM

Original video was removed. Here's my apology video.




#3997708 All Hail Conan

Posted Seductions on 21 November 2013 - 02:41 PM




#3989884 Interrupt Hacking

Posted crazieh on 11 November 2013 - 05:32 PM

Okay so for people who may not realise this, when you're getting interrupted literally instantly on your casts it is people generally using a third party bot, which can be modified to do additional things also. From my experience I've met people who are using this to:

1) Interrupt hack (interrupts you literally as soon as you begin the cast).

2) Fake-cast, there is a small delay between interrupts being used and actually landing on you. The bot picks this up and stops your cast once interrupts are used.

3) Trinket CC (LOL), only seen this once and it seems insanely pointless, but it trinkets CC as soon as it lands on you - shows how out of control things are getting and also how retarded people are >_<.

This has been going on for years practically unchecked due to very few people doing it, but now all the European battlegroups are merged and in particular with the russians, it seems to be very standard for 50% of the teams you meet in arena for them to be interrupt hacking (and if you meet russians, 95% chance that they're doing it).

It feels like people have so little faith in Blizzard / arena in general these days that they do not even bother complaining about suuuuch a huge deal. Why is this not a huge deal to people? I know arena is dying, but when GCD hack was being abused in season 8 there was the biggest storm and Blizzard did actually take care of that (eventually).

This is once again an absolutely awful season with very few people enjoying arena in general - it's very frustrating there hasn't been a balance patch already to take care of warriors yet, regardless I feel like interrupt hacking adding to it is just too much.

As it's very unlikely Blizzard will do anything about this in the near or far future, perhaps the best solution for EU is to separate the russians from everyone else as they're passively cheating in every possible way they can and are infecting the european ladder with pure aids.

It would be good if people can confirm that this is a very common problem in general for arena so perhaps if it gets tweeted to holinka it will not be ignored! Also, I'm assuming this is mostly happening on EU, aka russians? I've seen it a couple of times when I play on US every week, but not often.

#salvage s14

Thanks,

Craze




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