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#4455782 RBG's are basically dead

Posted Cozenerlol on 19 July 2015 - 11:21 AM

And nothing of value was lost.


#4450994 RBG's are basically dead

Posted drzy on 11 July 2015 - 03:48 AM

There is a lot more reasons why rBG's are dead then just incentives.

Sure, let's throw in a cool mount for 50 rBG wins (using that number a place-holder, not quite sure if that was the actual number you needed I don't remember). People will play 50 wins and then they aren't going to queue again. Sure that might boost activity temporarily, but it's a band-aid to a bigger problem.

Looking at the ladders right now, the same exact people have been on the front two pages of rBG ladder since like, shit, S14 maybe? It's obvious there is extremely low activity in rBG's and to be honest, I actually have  no idea how either of those two teams (Abn / Bailamos) find it fun farming 1600-1900 teams for hours and hours on end, but that's a different issue.

The player base is probably the biggest reason why rBG's are dead. You players killed your own bracket by your damn self. No amount of "item incentive" will matter if Joe is sitting at his computer with a caution sign thru his network status. Even to this day, you top teams still cheat against each other, you still sell pilots, and you still only play with the same "clique" of people. It doesn't matter how many random cosmetic things you throw into rBG's, that bracket it literally aids due to the DDoS'ing fiasco of MoP.

Another reason is because a huge portion of the PvP community that still takes PvP seriously already have all the titles that rBG gives. So why go through the misery of playing them "competitively" knowing there is a very large chance the other team is just going to cheat for +6 to +13 points at 2100 (because MMR is horrid in rBGs)?

Bottom line is, if you want rBG's to become competitive again, do something about it as a player base. Don't just complain that there isn't enough cosmetic things in there, or that MMR is shit. S9 there was way less cosmetic titles/mounts then there is now and participation was HUGE that season.

My 2 cents.


#4554390 Food for thought from an oldschool player

Posted HeyimJack on 16 December 2015 - 11:56 AM

View PostTekkys, on 16 December 2015 - 09:32 AM, said:

Honestly, i think it's not a matter of what we need to do, but what we need to NOT do.
  • The PvP community needs to be serious about ostracizing cheaters. If you know someone who DDoSes, fly-hacks, or any form of obvious cheating, do NOT continue to play with them. Cheating has become way too common-place in the PvP scene, and while i know people don't agree with it, you foster its growth when you play with someone who perpetuates it or supports it.

  • Stop being so toxic towards the outward community. We are a minority of the dwindling WoW population; you can't be so selective when choosing people to play with and helping new players learn the game. I'm not saying you have to run a charity service and teach every sub-1500 player the game, but don't be cruel. Direct them to sites such as this one so they can read up and try and understand their mistakes. Be patient and help the people who truly want to get better and learn.

  • If you don't have a constructive opinion, don't consistently spread garbage. Everyone has bad days, everyone hates comp x/x/x or class x. It's okay to shit-post now and then, but don't make it a habit. If you think something deserves changing, explain why, and try and be constructive.

  • Support the infrastructure already present. GCDtv is going to great lengths to get people excited about arena, and honestly they're doing a great job. I'm not too familiar with organizers over in EU (the only one i remember is Bleached Bones?), but these guys work hard to take the game they love and get people interested in it. They need our support to grow and help the scene grow back with them.
If you really care about this game and enjoy it, you don't just roll over and die. I know it's hard when the company in charge seems to care very little if at all about what you love, but they're trying to be better. In Legion PvP and PvE will be separate, something we as a community have been asking for since late TBC if not earlier. Blizzard is ridiculous and borderline cruel when it comes to the PvP side of their game, but they are trying to amend for their mistakes, so they deserve some credit.
No none of this is what we need. We need the game itself to not be shit, who the fuck cares about the people and the community?? Having some GCD tournament every weekend isn't going to stop the game from being obnoxiously dogshit. I didn't quit the game because of the "toxic community" I quit because the core mechanics of the game itself are bad and they honestly don't look like they're going to get any better imo.


#4554288 Food for thought from an oldschool player

Posted BalanceRexxar on 16 December 2015 - 08:41 AM

i like your optimism but the community has given blizzard an absurd amount of solutions and feedback but it seems like it's all ignored and discarded unless its something they can fix with a simple damage %.

Some examples of "trying to offer feedback"

http://us.battle.net...59176739?page=1

http://us.battle.net...188992?page=1#0

http://us.battle.net...pic/18194625605

http://www.twitch.tv/venruki/v/4797144


these are just a few of the many intricate videos and posts that have either been recognized but discarded or ignored all together.


#4551207 Arena Stats & Rating History

Posted Insomniac on 09 December 2015 - 02:44 AM

Hi All,

I've been developing this website to track player's arena histories (because people always were like "oh yeah 2400 earlier in the season but tanked hard because of noobs") and there was no way to check that up.

I've also added a ladder that tracks when people played last, they'll be shown as 'inactive' if they haven't played any 3's games for 2 weeks.

I've also added any cool stats that I could think of and also some win rates for each class & spec.

The main request so far is an EU version. I can get that going soon just requires another $5/m to host which I cbf'd putting up if no-one finds any use of the US version.
The other main request is statistics on comps/setups. Unfortunately there isn't a reliable way to track who plays together other than by guessing (eg. Close to same rating, all won at same time & all have same weekly win-loss) - but i'll look at implementing a test version to see how it goes.

Check it out and let me know any feedback you have or any other stats you want.

Trending Stats
https://pvpstats.com/stats.php

Overall Classes
https://pvpstats.com/classes.php

Specific Class Example
https://pvpstats.com/class.php?id=2


#4546266 Why is it so damn hard to get good teammates nowadays?

Posted Jim_Jim on 28 November 2015 - 09:18 PM

Because nobody wants to try anything, when you ask other people to play something weird, they will answer "Mumumumu we can't beat turbo, it will be bad against ww/dk or shatter mumumumu".

So you are here, playing the same comp because nobody has the balls and the motivation to try something exotic. I asked lots of people to play just to try differents things, and they didn't even want to try.

And then, you have some people saying on AJ that the game is dead after playing countless hours and thousands of game on the fotm comptheyhavealwaysplayedsincevanilla.

Who wants to play sp/affli/hpal? Nobody.
Arcane/demo/hpal? No, it's bad.
Firemage/monk/hpal? Rmd will farm us.

Ok.


#4532874 Should i come back to WoW Arena?

Posted Voksen on 02 November 2015 - 08:21 PM

Made this to better explain things.


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#4388750 ProGameX World of Warcraft First WoD Tournament 2015 (3v3)

Posted kmaclol on 17 February 2015 - 01:20 AM

So pretty much banning Shadow Priests, nice.


#4388536 Scumbag Teammates with No morals

Posted Seu on 16 February 2015 - 08:01 PM

rattspack is like 15 and this is likely the first dollar he has ever earned that wasnt his allowance so it probably went to his head

it is what it is, would u trust some random nerdy 15 year old with $20 of ur hard earned dollars irl? u probably earned that $20 back while typing out this post at work while the poor kid was getting shoved into a locker so u should just let bygones be bygones


#4388482 Scumbag Teammates with No morals

Posted Nicholaes92 on 16 February 2015 - 05:26 PM

Nerds have no morals if I were you I would delete this post, wait for them to ask you for another favor, and then if they have you play again just /dance when the doors open. Yeehhhhh


#4385968 Killing Spree Nerf

Posted Seu on 12 February 2015 - 07:23 AM

View PostGlink, on 10 February 2015 - 05:52 PM, said:

When exactly was I floating around 2400 and who carried me?

totally offtopic like everything else in here but as a 2400 rat i can confirm that i had to q into glinks on my alt every time i logged in for the last 2 months of last season, generally the mw beastcleave but i hate the game not the player bb

as proof i have one vod from the 1 hour that i ever streamed and ofc i hit glinkz http://www.twitch.tv/seuu/c/5213108


#4385810 Killing Spree Nerf

Posted panooc on 11 February 2015 - 08:36 PM

View PostBladetwister, on 10 February 2015 - 02:52 PM, said:

Glinks is notoriously bad at all basic hunter mechanics like trapping and interrupting people on cast. He floated around 2400 all season till his ret and warrior buddies decided to carry him.

Combat is fine, yes they are unpealable with KS but most of the time if KS will produce a kill, then you fucked up earlier, you didnt peel enough when he wasnt on KS, or you didnt spam cc rogue enough to ruin some of his stacks and make him start over, Sub and combat are fine combat is a little better just cus of better overall dmg but when SUb burst lines up i see people drop 100-0 in a dance so let's get off our high horses people and be a little more open minded, just cus combat is viable now doesn't mean you gotto cry about it.

if you're so against mongo playstyle/damage then remove warriors deathknights and BM hunters since those tranq shot spamming idiots are absolutely AIDS to play against.
SLICK TRIKK POW POW POW


#4386078 Bow down to your 6.1 overlords (mages)

Posted pharrelle on 12 February 2015 - 01:40 PM

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#4377526 Killing Spree Nerf

Posted Structural on 31 January 2015 - 12:46 AM

View PostDills, on 31 January 2015 - 12:01 AM, said:

Honestly even though subtlety is also ridiculously strong, I'd much prefer that being overpowered than combat rogues.

combat is basically sub to non casters. when a caster gets danced on it's basically that silly 9 second kidney on horse steroids. garrote silence is stupid strong against casters and when i get danced on i dont think how much skilled he is because he chose dance over combat. i think of world of warcraft pvp.

View PostDills, on 31 January 2015 - 12:01 AM, said:

At least sub is strong because it has so much control and allows for many set ups that will lead to kills, compared to combat rogues that just fizz around and pve all game long until they eventually get a red spree that wins the game. I can tell the difference between Pikaboo, Mir, etc. compared to other higher rated sub rogues.

pikaboo has a mustache.

View PostDills, on 31 January 2015 - 12:01 AM, said:

But the difference between nessper and all the other random combat fizzers? Pretty much nonexistent. Combat forces you to play like a fucking moron, and

World of Warcraft.

View PostDills, on 31 January 2015 - 12:01 AM, said:

TL;DR rather lose to something that has too much control/can set up too much (godcomp last season for example, which you could just compare to sub rogues now) vs random pve dampeners (MW dps sham x last season, which is just like combat rogues - pveing and basically only playing not to lose to win games). Win or lose, I don't have any fun vs combat rogues, especially just combat rogue/resto druid x.

and World of Warcraft.


#4379872 Things that are secretly OP

Posted Itsnel on 04 February 2015 - 03:46 AM

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