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#3905762 How to master Arms Warrior in PvP?

Posted Braindance on 29 June 2013 - 05:23 AM

View PostSanakh, on 28 June 2013 - 11:53 PM, said:

Hi my Warrior Brothers,

This is my first Topic and Post on Aj, and I'm joining it because I've got some questions.
I love to play my Warrior even he isnt op or good as any other class in either this or other patch.
I srsly, want to master my Warrior to the maximum. I watch Warrior Streams, even there aren't that much existing.
I do also watch other Streams to inform myself about what is going on in the PvP-Community and to see what other classes can do and how they play it. I do a ton of things to get better but I just don't see a light after the tunnel.
I know its not easy to be a Warrior but it  isn't a reason to give up, at least I think so.
I want to play as good as Pro Warriors do! They play e.g. 80-8 in 2s and over 2.4k in 3s!
If they can do it, I also want to make it that far. Yesterday, I've only managed to play 12w-4L in 2s against Mmr teams of 1.7 to 1.9k. Well I thought it was good playing 12-4 against such Mmr teams.
But, my Disc Partner (yesterday) Rage quited and said I was playing very bad and it was a bad move from him to leave his 1.8k Arena Team. Since that moment I haven't enjoyed playing PvP as a Warrior, I was thinking all the time. I rly asked myself, what can I do better to become as good as Pro Warriors!?
How do I master my Arms Warrior, to play like that?
If there are some ways to do that pls tell me!
To get more in touch with PvP-Players and maybe you guys, I've started leveling a Warrior on Outland-Eu!

A view information about me:
- I'm playing warrior as my main Class
- I play Warrior since mid-end Cata, with view breaks.
- I've played my warrior up to 1.6k Raiting (2s) and 1.7k Raiting (3s).
- My Highest Mmr so far was 2k Rbg, 1.8k+ in 2s and 1.8k in 3s.
- I do play on Aegwynn-Eu and I'm leveling my 2nd Warrior on Outland-Eu.
- I've played only ca. 1k Arena Matches because partners do leave Teams etc. and its hard to find srs team mates.
- I've won 504 of those Matches, i've only won 504 cause I tried 1v2 and help often undergeared players to cap.
- I love PvP and want to be one of the best PvP-Players in WoW.
- I'm actually a social player and accept critics and advices, and try to get better.

Hopefully you guys can help me to get better with my Warrior.
And hopefully may I found some people to practise with.

In Love,

Learn this by heart. Best warrior advice you will ever get.

And keep that enthusiasm because you need it to get better - as long as you're enthusiastic you will improve!

#3898136 Stampede is 99% useless now.

Posted Braindance on 11 June 2013 - 07:49 PM

Take it off your bars and add an additional button for arcane shot, so that you can clearly see it

#3902318 Noticed something

Posted Braindance on 20 June 2013 - 01:53 AM

View PostThasta, on 20 June 2013 - 12:22 AM, said:

2 seasons from now........

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#3898424 5.4 Possible paladin updates

Posted Athlete on 12 June 2013 - 03:09 AM

kpul go home you're drunk

#3900725 Obliterate bugged

Posted Aamonock on 16 June 2013 - 06:25 PM

View PostJussy, on 16 June 2013 - 06:11 PM, said:

The exact same thing happened to an arena partner today (he was a paladin and his judgement didin't work for like 5-6 games in a row).

You sure he just didn't have a seal buffed.

#3899453 Arena Pass Realm

Posted varellz on 13 June 2013 - 08:20 PM

dota2 best game!

#3899447 Arena Pass Realm

Posted Braindance on 13 June 2013 - 08:15 PM

Nothing compares to the original dota sorry.

#3899438 Arena Pass Realm

Posted Unappealing on 13 June 2013 - 07:52 PM

I have to let everyone know every time I post that I quit wow 2 years ago. - lolflay
every post.

#3898146 Stampede is 99% useless now.

Posted Raak on 11 June 2013 - 08:00 PM

You know what? Fuck hunters.

#3898131 Stampede is 99% useless now.

Posted flannelsoff on 11 June 2013 - 07:47 PM


i almost cried

#3899113 Well my DK brothers 5.4 notes released and DKs well

Posted akatyrone on 13 June 2013 - 02:42 AM

View PostPayback, on 13 June 2013 - 01:00 AM, said:

Would be nice to be overpowered is all. Seems like every class has been OP this xpac except DKs. Warriors/Hunters/Spriests/Mages/Eles. It's whatever not trying to start anything just kind of amusing to me how our class must be the last class to get looked at when buffs are getting handed out and the first when nerfs are going out.
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I dont know what kind of game you want wow to turn into, but musical imbalanced chairs is not something i want to pay for monthly.

#3896664 Glad Disc/2500+Rogue LF Quality Hunter 3s Illidan Horde

Posted Kungfucow on 08 June 2013 - 07:27 PM

Haha how am I just now seeing this? I sell 2s caps for gold when I'm bored. "rawshit" so creative and hilarious! I'm flattered someone thought I was important enough to record a video of me dying in a 2s match and post it  here though.

#3895832 Help salvage s13: We need Hunters fixed!

Posted brosearch on 06 June 2013 - 06:09 PM

Please guys post on official forums too. I would love to que again, but Hunters alone ruin arena.

I want to start by clarifying that I have no personal animosity against Hunters. I am not the typical wow pvper who wants to see xxx class nerfed into oblivion because I have a long lasting hatred toward said class. Having said that, arena is totally unplayable currently because of Hunters. Yes it is unplayable; this is not an exaggeration. There is absolutely no chance of enjoying arena while hunters exist in their current state.

I am not making this post to whine about WOW or MOP. I prefer not to do such things. I am not going to make a long post about all the changes this game needs in order to have amazing pvp. I can deal with many absurd things happening in this game. I can deal with elemental shamans getting proc after proc and doing a ton of damage without casting. I can deal with mages not casting and doing crazy damage in a deep freeze. I can deal with feral druids hitting really really hard. I can deal with death knights having more trinkets than the pvp vendor. I can deal with a destro locks chaos bolt during their cds. I can deal with shamans having a 36 sec tremor totem. I can deal with psyfiend being extremely annoying. Clearly, there are many things in this game which present unique challenges. However all of the things listed above are avoidable and/or defendable. One of the key attributes among good players is their ability to counter imbalances such as these through the use of CDs, positioning, and coordination with their team.

That is the key point where Hunters step into a realm of God status. A Hunters arsenal is such that other players are entirely subject to the will of the Hunter. If a Hunter wants, he gets. If I beat a hunter team, it’s because he failed to beat me because of his mistakes. I didn’t beat him; he beat himself. I am being 100% serious here. With all that a Hunter can do, a loss on his part is his fault. Moreover, he could have done something different and there would be no way in which I could have beaten him. That is unacceptable. This is precisely why arena currently can’t be played seriously, and more importantly it can’t be enjoyed.

I won’t list all Hunter abilities. Rather, ill list the abilities or reasons why a Hunter is so governing.

1. The damage a Hunter does is far beyond high. This is the biggest problem with Hunters. The damage output they are capable of doing is not acceptable. It’s not healable in any way. You can’t stop it, and you can’t LOS it. Hilariously, the Hunter isn’t even the one doing most of the damage. His pets are the ones doing a majority of the damage, and those pets move like superman so you aren’t getting away. I am not sure why Hunter damage went up in 5.3, but it’s out of control right now in a big way.

2. Their control is instant, there is a lot of it, it’s ranged and it’s unavoidable. You can’t stop /cast [@focus] scatter trap, or /cast [@focus] pet stun thing, or /cast [@focus] silencing shot, and they can full trap off scatter or the pet stun OR the disengage 8 sec AOE physical root. Any hunter can land a full trap if he uses his disengage root, pet stuns a healer’s partner so they can’t eat the trap, or simply coordinates with his team. However he doesn’t even need a full trap for kills BECAUSE his damage is so damn high/instant/unavoidable. To make matters worse, they can Readiness and have access to scatter, trap and silencing shot yet again lol. In past expansions, if you ate traps, you could survive hunter cleaves. It’s truly sad but this is no longer the case. This just might be from a warlock perspective, but if I try to stand on my healer for the 3 secs scatter is on him, I’ll die before the trap even activates. Literally I have to gateway the instant they connect on me or I am dead. I can’t tell you how many times I have used my pet sac, unending resolve, fel regen and healthstone all right away, only to die through all of it as if I pulled a raid boss who one shot me.

3. The hunter isn’t controllable in any reliable way for the first few mins of a game. BM provides a trinket effect, they obviously have the regular pvp trinket, and they can readiness BM too. These are 3 ways in which the Hunter is able to free himself of any CC which enables him to assert his control and damage as he sees fit. If he wanted, he has other ways to avoid additional control attempts too, but I’ll just leave those out for now. Back to the point, you can’t stun a Hunters opener, or fear or blind it. He is going to be free period. This is a massive problem because he also has the other 2 arrows in his quiver as I mentioned above (his unreal damage and his puppet master like control). If the hunter wasn’t able to do insane damage to people, then he being free would be far less of a concern. If a hunter wasn’t able to control a healer so easily, reliably, and in a way that can’t be avoided, then him being free would also not be such an issue. However he does have all this damage and all this control, so giving him the ability to remain free to assert these things makes matters infinitely direr.

These 3 main issues combined are what make Hunters the problem they are now. 5.3 brought some changes that enable me to play my warlock in a way that is somewhat enjoyable now (I can actually do some meaningful damage). I would love to que 3v3 again, but every time I do there is an onslaught of Hunter teams who basically win by default. About 80% of all 3v3 teams have a hunter, so there is no escaping them. Additionally, it’s not just warlocks who get absolutely destroyed by these Hunter teams. When you are a God among mortals, you take everyone to pound town. NO class can really enjoy arena as long as Hunters stay like they are. I sincerely hope even Hunters themselves realize it can’t be fun like this. Lebron James wouldn’t go play basketball at the local gym because it’s not fun to play versus those who stand no chance at winning.

I challenge anyone to go watch some streams of 3v3. You will see how prevalent and utterly dominant Hunters are. Even vs. top players, they impose their will with little to no effort. I know blizzard isn’t a fan of pvp only fixes but I don’t see any other way in this situation.

Their damage needs to go way down, the BM trinket effect removed altogether, and their control must be reduced (maybe make a target immune to scatter if he has been silencing shot and vice versa). No class should have it all. If nothing is done about Hunters, this season is completely lost. There is no debating that fact.

Thanks for your support and consideration.

#3896323 It's happening

Posted Drizlet on 07 June 2013 - 11:06 PM

I don't like hunters or ele's
+rep if agreed

#3896326 It's happening

Posted Braindance on 07 June 2013 - 11:08 PM

View PostDrizlet, on 07 June 2013 - 11:06 PM, said:

I don't like hunters or ele's
+rep if agreed
I don't like dks
+rep if agreed