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#4489194 NA & EU Qualifiers aftermath

Posted seeiz on Yesterday, 12:08 PM

Lolflay, WoW PvP balance expert or Mens fashion specialist? Find out as the thread expands.

#4488477 Thinking about logging in. Arena still funish?

Posted Nicholaes92 on 29 August 2015 - 03:31 AM

View PostKPul, on 28 August 2015 - 09:48 PM, said:

Havent played in 5 months.  Thinking about picking it up as winter closes in.  Anything massive i should know about before i reinstall?

I thought your picture was me for a second.  Good looking bro

#4488474 Thinking about logging in. Arena still funish?

Posted Fizion on 29 August 2015 - 02:54 AM

Nice pull if that's your girl

#4488108 Talent system

Posted Lolflay on 28 August 2015 - 05:45 PM

You can't exclude Deep Freeze and place it as a talent. That's the sole reason why Mages were horribad in the start of WoD ( Deep Freeze being nothing but a glorified Gouge ). It also creates a situation in which Priests/Warlocks are atm ( AoE fears being talents, losing one whole button ).

It effectively removes yet another button from a class whose sole problem is the fact that you really only have to press a certain combination of buttons over and over, again and again, because no other possible strategy exists, because everything is super condensed.

Just nerf the shit out of Frostjaw ( make it just silence, not root, keep it on a 1.5 sec cast thingy, can't be used as pseudostun into sheep anymore ), place RoF and Sheep on same school, and that's over 80% of issues with Mages solved.

#4488003 Talent system

Posted Metaclassx on 28 August 2015 - 05:08 PM

Someone go ahead and forward this thread to Celestalon.

#4487553 Mage rogue nerf??

Posted Friedkitteh on 28 August 2015 - 04:19 AM

Well I heard a rumor that mages are getting gassed IRL soon so there's that :)

#4487541 Mage rogue nerf??

Posted Rynd on 28 August 2015 - 04:05 AM

I can't understand how people think rmd is fine right now. Maybe the reason why is because rmd is really hard to play. But when people like Jah/Pika, Nolifer/Whaaz and Raiku/Praii plays it, it is just broken.

Rmd is, by far, the most complete comp in the game. Have only one hard matchup, which is pally shatter. And counters pretty much everything else.

And now that they are nerffing warlocks, Rmd will be even more broken.

Idk if u agree with me...

#4487148 best comp 6.2.2

Posted Ghostcode on 27 August 2015 - 04:13 PM

Am I missing something, because I don't see any feral nerfs?

#4479782 Shadow BiS S17 thread

Posted Lolflay on 18 August 2015 - 08:52 PM

View Postojonttu, on 18 August 2015 - 07:22 PM, said:

Spriest on top EU ladder seem to be using Haste+multistrike weapons instead of crit mastery. Whats the reasoning behind this? Whats your opinion lolflay?

You can gear in three possible ways currently.

1st best : Mastery/Versatility ( most instant damage, most damage from MB/MS ( two damaging spells you use by far the most, excluding the dots ), survivability )

2nd best : Haste/Versatility ( gives you a bit faster casts and a shorter MB cooldown, survivability )

3rd best : Mastery/Haste ( don't bother, versa too good )

Right now, the only casted spell you really need to cast is Vampiric Touch. Like, that's LITERALLY the only casted spell you REALLY need to cast in arena when it comes to your actual "I'M GOING FOR A KILL" rotation. Mind Flay is channeled, therefore you get value out of it even if you need to stop and fakecast mid-cast, therefore it's not a huge priority. Mind Spike is good obviously.

So if the only casted spell you need to cast is Vampiric Touch, and the haste gained from going for haste yields miniscule cd reduction on Mind Blast, it ends up being a bit of bonus damage on SWP VT DP and Mind Flay. SWP VT and Mindflay are a minor part of your arena damage ( obviously doesn't mean it's an IGNORABLE part of your damage ). That leaves us with DP, which doesn't really need any boost in its damage.

On the other hand, Mind Blast is the huge majority of your damage in arena, so it makes sense to gear to make the two instant ( basically instant since MS procs like crazy ) spells hit harder. It also makes sense to gear for Versatility, because its value is really high when stacked, and outperforms stats like haste, crit, multistrike, etc.

Also, when you're going Mastery, in the case you're not being trained/interrupted, doing the PVE rotation without the dot weaving part ( so only doing Spike Spike Blast Spike Spike Blast etc ) is higher damage than having VT SWP, using MB on CD and channeling Mind Flay into the target as a filler.

In the playstyle where majority of your damage is instant, it makes zero point to gear haste for a lower MB CD ( was it a 0.2 sec reduction or something when I've tested it ? Something along those lines, and not to mention that it actually loses value if you're being CC'd in any way or form, because for it to be truly effective, you'd have to be able to use it on cooldown ), and it makes zero point to gear for an obsolete playstyle ( VT SWP Mindflaying Mindblasting as a filler inbetween Horror cooldowns ).

TL;DR - neither gearing style is wrong, but if you want to get the most juice out of your character, gear Mastery/Versatility.  If you're not being trained, and the enemies are presenting themselves to you ( a rarity ), whenever you're in the phase where you're between Horror cooldowns, off-dot the 2nd DPS and spam Blast on cooldown and Spikes otherwise into the 1st DPS for a higher effective damage than dotting that target as well and Mindflaying it; if you're being trained, you wouldn't get much value out of haste anyway, and this way your MB and instant MS hits way harder. ( if the DPS you want to Mindspike is in position of running away at any given time, it's better to dot it and Mindflay it )

I almost forgot to mention - if you plan on playing Shadowplay in any sort of form ( Shadowpriest/Affliction/healer ), Haste/Versatility is BY FAR the best setup combo to aim for, since you'll actually be casting 24/7 - you want DOTS up on all 3 targets, that's a significant GCD expenditure/20 sec. If you're playing Shatter, Mastery and Versa is the best.

Also, I noticed a familiar name pop up on the ladders some time ago : http://us.battle.net.../Talby/advanced

Mastery and Versatility are both equally good once Versatility reaches higher amounts of budget on gear ( IN TERMS OF DAMAGE ), therefore it becomes a preference at that point when it comes to enchanting ( more damage ? more survivability ? ), and the shoulder/pants dillemma in his case was him deciding he wanted to forego extra bit of stats that are actually useable ( haste on set pants as opposed to crit multistrike on shoulders ) in favor of more versa/mastery, but he's probably the best Shadowpriest to follow in terms of gearing if you don't want to be as anal and detailed as I am.

I've no idea how much time he spent figuring it out, but the same way that for Warlocks Wallirikz will be the best example of a properly figured out gear setup, Talbadar will be the best example for Shadowpriests ( if you already don't take my word for it ). That guy ALWAYS went for cheesy shit, I remember he had 15 different sets just for dueling alone.

#4486368 horde race

Posted Forumz on 26 August 2015 - 07:06 PM

View Postrelegladhero, on 26 August 2015 - 03:04 AM, said:

The difference is marginal, priests seem to value haste way higher than it actually is in pvp. For some reason that has been the case since wotlk, it's just some weird thing in the minds of people. I'm sure being ud or troll won't make more than 20 rating difference for you in the end
The more haste you get the more globals you will have ''left over'', which you can then use for offensive shit like smiting, purging, repositioning, etc. Also it makes it easier to react to ie. a Mage blinking into you for a polymorph.

All that, and fast globals are fun imo.

#4485030 Adding A Solo Queue--

Posted Fedx on 25 August 2015 - 04:17 PM

View PostZzx, on 25 August 2015 - 04:11 PM, said:

implying anyone will buy this seaons tabard unironically
Not everyone can rock the s15 tabard like you have been doing the last 3 seasons, you seem to be really proud of that one

#4484955 Adding A Solo Queue--

Posted Naraga on 25 August 2015 - 02:22 PM

Will be fun if it allows duo queue just like on the AT.

#4484937 Adding A Solo Queue--

Posted Metaclassx on 25 August 2015 - 01:50 PM

Made a post on this, and how it could be done with minimal (or even a positive) impact to the 3v3 Arena Population on the official forums. Would appreciate it if people gave it a read, contributed to the discussion (if you're unable to, I'm sure that some kind of discussion will appear here) and if you like the ideas give it a +1, a post and tweet it to the devs!


#4484898 Divine Aegis bugged in PvP

Posted Worstpriestjk on 25 August 2015 - 12:26 PM

wont be fixed anyway so why try

#4484808 Divine Aegis bugged in PvP

Posted relegladhero on 25 August 2015 - 10:17 AM

I tried