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#4389450 Better hope they revert the PvP Demonbolt change

Posted Lolflay on 18 February 2015 - 07:07 AM

View PostDjBenx, on 17 February 2015 - 12:57 PM, said:

If it really is a 8% damage nerf thats insane, demo is going to be mid-bottom again.
I don't understand this blizzard logic of either be good single target or cleave, but then certain classes are good in all aspects.

The problem with their current design is that Affliction is reliant on RNG to do sustained damage ( eh yes, here, you need to keep this buff up, BUT only if you're lucky, if you aren't, your DPS is going to plummet :) ), while Destruction plain out sucks balls. Demonology was the best of both specs, AND had both single target and AoE damage. All the potential damage that should've been in ToC+MC SF's during metamorphosis was placed into Demonbolt and made stronger and easier to use, simplifying the spec ( but still keeping it the most complicated DPS spec in game next to WW's ). Now they're not happy with everyone and their mother being Demonology, players are not happy to see Warlocks topping meters on fresh content ( most Warlocks got their tier sets first as well, as Conqueror tokens are the strongest when going to them compared to Shadows and Rets ), and they decide to instantly nerfbat the spec to oblivion, to keep it in line with Affli/Destro, while not really doing anything about mediocrity about other two specs.

And the stuff that's even more mind boggling, is that having 2-3 Cataclysm specced Demo Warlocks basically trivializes shit like Operator where ads need to die asap, and it's still going to be broken as fuck come 6.1.


Also, about the complicated, WW says hello

Aye, only two specs left ingame that resemble anything of old WoW, difficulty wise.


Because of the number squish damage buffs and nerfs are way too volatile, an 8% nerf/buff is about a 3.5k dps gain/loss in mythic gear, which is HUGE, that can put you from bottom of meters to top of meters.

So many classes need redesigning as well. Too much damage put into 1-2 abilities with others just being fillers.

Indeed. On my SPriest, most of my damage is frontloaded into MB and DP. On my Warlock, 40% of my damage comes from Demonbolt. Mages have their entire PvP damage loaded into Ice Nova, a concept nobody likes, their opponents or them.

That's also the reason that PvP is gradually getting more boring unless you're playing on a top team, competing against top teams ( in that case, you're having fun simply because you're having great, intense games against people you know that know what they're doing ), you had to chain multiple abilities before to actually pressure people, getting trained reduced your damage considerably. Now ? Take Mages for example. Mages had to sustain damage with Frostbolts and pet, and when the time was right, they'd either shatter you with Frostbolt+Lance/Frostfire proc, or load damage into you during Deep Freeze. Compare that to their current playstyle of waiting for Ice Nova and being useless meanwhile, pretending they're doing damage with Icecicles and FoF procs.

Just sad :D

#4389126 ProGameX World of Warcraft First WoD Tournament 2015 (3v3)

Posted Lolflay on 17 February 2015 - 05:34 PM

Might as well only allow Sub Rogues to compete and ban Combat entirely, otherwise we'll see gaylords running Combat RLD and thinking they're better than their equally scummy RMD counterparts.

#4389080 Why Do Warlocks Get Rewarded For Being Kicked?

Posted Lolflay on 17 February 2015 - 04:14 PM

View PostNaraga, on 17 February 2015 - 04:12 PM, said:

using that logic Warlocks can cast too when locked in Shadow. Rain of fire isn't in the Shadowschool.

Warlocks don't have a SINGLE non-shadow school spell when Affliction.

It's just fucking funny reading a MoPhunter's opinion on a set bonus designed to let Warlocks actually work in PvP. Try playing Affliction in PvE and not getting a single Nightfall proc for 40+ seconds at a time, and watch your damage plummet. Warlocks without SB: Haunt are NOTHING. If that set bonus didn't exist, Warlocks wouldn't do any pressure at all.

@ OP, removing that set bonus would be similar in magnitude to removing Black Arrow for Survival

View Postjaimex, on 17 February 2015 - 02:05 PM, said:



You're a fucking broken record, you only change the tune when it suits you. If you weren't playing with a Warlock, you sure as fuck would be the first one to complain about their mechanics. "OMFG BLIZZARD I WAS JUST ABOUT TO KILL MY TARGET BUT WARLOCK FEARED ME THREE TIMES IN A ROW, but I guess sheeps take less skill to land, y ? Or about the fact that Demonology LSD CC's 3 targets at the same time while lock unloads Demonbolts, that sounds pretty damn similar to what Godcomp does. Although I won't be a dick and call LSD skilless right now, because it ain't. It sure as fuck was braindead last season, this season you actually have to be decent to run it.

My point being that you should really stop whining about stuff that's almost completely the same in a period where this game is homogenized af.

#4387246 RBG Tournament LOL

Posted Lolflay on 14 February 2015 - 08:51 AM

Tried to watch, but

1) RBGs are boring as fuck

2) RBGs are boring as fuck

3) commentators were all hyping up and going all Azael on this thing "OMG HES GOING DOWN NOW THEYRE SWAPPING TO HIM OMG HES DROPPING DOWN, MAGNIFICENT SWAP BACK TO PALADIN OMG HES ODWNNNNNNNNNN UNBELIEVABLE" - like what the fuck dude ? Shut the fuck up already, awkward.

it DID seem well organized though, they should've just put the effort into a arena tournament over a RBG one.

#4386992 Priests

Posted Lolflay on 14 February 2015 - 01:10 AM

link to the notes ?

#4386834 Flameglow needs a nerf.

Posted Lolflay on 13 February 2015 - 07:18 PM

View PostPouncedd, on 13 February 2015 - 07:15 PM, said:

CD on poly too while you are at it.

In that case, 2 minute cooldown on trap, or 30 sec cooldown with arming time. Really, hunters should just shut the fuck up and know their place in the grand scheme of things, pretty much every Hunter with an opinion that isn't anti-trap and frozen ammo at this point is a second class citizen and shouldn't even have the right to speak.

As for topic at hand, Flameglow needs a big fat fucking nerf, agreed.

#4386514 A suggestion on PW:S

Posted Lolflay on 13 February 2015 - 06:47 AM

That's actually a brilliant idea. Holy fuck.

Only issue might be mana cost in that case, but dunno.


Posted Lolflay on 13 February 2015 - 02:45 AM

Was reading and mostly agreeing with everything until I came across Faerie Swarm. It needs to be removed from the game together with Faerie Fire, PERIOD.

#4386286 Someone finally decided to study trolls....

Posted Lolflay on 13 February 2015 - 12:32 AM

View PostGlink, on 11 February 2015 - 04:01 AM, said:

Im optimistic and honest, I hate people who are fake or try to manipulate.

It's extremely hard to see through the disguise of a smart man.

#4386280 Bow down to your 6.1 overlords (mages)

Posted Lolflay on 13 February 2015 - 12:21 AM

View PostInfernion, on 13 February 2015 - 12:12 AM, said:

Cmon... You can't possibly be serious calling LSD one of the worst comps in the game?

Everything Jaime is playing is unpopular and hard to play, get with the times man.

Jaime is like, the filter of what's worthy and what's not. He's full of pride, afterall.

#4385912 The "are Warriors fine right now?" leaves me kind of perplexed,

Posted Lolflay on 12 February 2015 - 04:00 AM

View PostBraindance, on 11 February 2015 - 06:34 PM, said:

You are making it painfully obvious that you haven't read anything in this thread, which does not contradict your own statement of "I come to these boards to be immature".  No one defended anything "retarded", no one said warriors are weak or bad. These are products of your imagination.

What's also sad is that after so long, you are still blind and you do not know how to direct your rage. Instead of being angry at blizzard for fucking up your classes and creating abominations such as insta kill execute, you instead take it up to a bunch of folks that (constructively) try to pinpoint the issues with their own class , and start calling them retards and idiots unprovoked.

That is sad, immature and disrespectful. If this is what gets you off then keep doing it. In the eyes of a normal person however, that's sociopathic at best.

Wow, a Braindance post that isn't downright stupid. You're correct. I haven't read any of the responses in this thread, I only glanced at the topic title and wall of text OP made and came to the conclusion that a perfectly viable class is whining ( which you are, though - you ARE more than viable ), however it really is ignorant of me to come rampaging in your forum and tell you that you're all wrong. I'm a human being, I can both be wrong and accept when I'm wrong, but you people need to understand the world through someone elses PoV. Empathy was never a strong side in class balance discussions in WoW PvP, everyone is biased to the fucking boot and don't give a shit about anyone else, and everyone acts like it.

I have a lvl 90 warrior that I don't know how to play, my experience with Warrior class was 2.1k 2s in S15 after they nerfed MMR dropping, I don't know jack shit about problems that are plaguing warriors right now. The only things I know is that they're

- seemingly always on their target, unless the enemy team is something like RMD/jungle/similar examples that don't let the warrior breathe

- dishing out disgusting damage

- have an I-win button which basically makes it like you've got a practical amount of 80% your usual health against a warrior, which also makes you save defensives for when you drop under 20%, essentially forcing you to save them in situations you might use them in when vs'ing another comp

and that alone makes it a VERY frustrating experience when facing a Warrior.

Burst of Speed+Crippling Poison+stuns on a Rogue, seemingly infinite kiting abilities of Hunters coupled with frost ammo ( ROFL ) and Mages in general are really annoying, I agree. However you can't justify something based on abilities that need a nerf, that creates power creep and it only gets worse if the game gets into that direction. That's how we're left with Hunter overlords and every melee having 1230432235 gap closers.

View PostPowerslave, on 11 February 2015 - 07:07 PM, said:

This guy hates warriors like hilter hates jews. He'd rather RMD stay overpowered forever than having any warrior win a game. The reasoning ? Well, duh, he HATES warriors!

Ah, the smell of fresh meat in the morning. How are you doing Powerslave, what was it, 5 years ?

Let's jump right into, "rather have RMD stay overpowered":

View PostLolflay, on 11 February 2015 - 05:03 PM, said:

but the only thing keeping warriors down right now is, what everyone else said already, xMD comps. Those will get nerfed ( rightfully so )

Missed that part, eh ? Or maybe you're referring to a post I made few days ago where I'd rather have RMD stay where it is and keep Warriors in check ?

You know, when two political parties who are equally rotten to the bone are competing, voters might vote for one that's LESS of a horrible option. I'd honestly rather have RMD popular which is only annoying every red buff/killing spree, than whole bunch of Warrior comps where I'm stuck in one place the entire game and under huge pressure from mongoloid warrior team just dishing out mindless braindead damage without any sort of sensible play ( or is arena2 stormbolt macro skillful ?!?!??! :confused: ) and doing such insane pressure from simply rolling your PvE rotation.

#4385676 The "are Warriors fine right now?" leaves me kind of perplexed,

Posted Lolflay on 11 February 2015 - 05:03 PM

View PostZzx, on 11 February 2015 - 04:10 PM, said:

ah i have lolflays posts on ignore anyway

I'm really curious why the fuck would he announce this out loud, when I don't think anybody gives a shit about it :D

View PostBraindance, on 11 February 2015 - 04:11 PM, said:

And you're so mature and intelligent with retard being your most common used word in almost a decade.

I come to these boards to be immature, and whenever someone is defending something retarded, that makes him a retard in my book.

Granted, WoW is one game where you really really have a hard time beating the odds if your class is weak on the grand scale of things, but the only thing keeping warriors down right now is, what everyone else said already, xMD comps. Those will get nerfed ( rightfully so ), and you'll be borderline overpowered, if not overpowered.

I don't give a shit about your quality of life problems, both on my warlock and priest I'm missing half of my fucking keyboard. Nobody but rogues and hunters are feeling happy about the number of buttons they can push, wake the fuck up.

#4384810 The most successful arena expansion

Posted Lolflay on 10 February 2015 - 05:33 AM

View Postzzatbrah, on 10 February 2015 - 02:25 AM, said:

the phrase glad viable is subjective to everyone and you hsould probably clarify.
in my own personal usage glad viable means the average player can practice for a couple months and push said rating on the spec when the time comes.
in that defintion, season 8 feral was 900% not glad viable.
yes the overlords of the spec could do it but that shit blew. in fact a lot of the things you mentioned were fucking terrible, and some only viable if you had excess pve gear like the entire warrior class. dks didnt exist without shadowmourne, and outside of shadowmourne losing to a ret was the saddest possible thing that could have happened in season 8

rogues definitely weren't a thing without adequate arpen gear from icc as well. none of that shit was glad viable for the average person.

but like i said your defintion can  be different. just state whatit is

Kittycleave was decent Shaman/Druid killing combo, and those were plentiful.
Boomkin Spriest Resto shaman worked just fine.
Warriors worked fine with PvP gear only.
DKs were kind of on the low side, yeah.
Ret Hunter Rshaman and Protret/Disc/Resto shaman were both aids as fuck in right hands.

Rogues ? They had THREE tier 1 combos ( RMP, RLS, RPS ), FOUR if you had PVE gear ( RRP ). Those who played Sub obviously had it tougher, and in their case ArP gear helped tremendously, but those were in minority, Sub was reserved for very good players who knew what they were doing, in time of no poison dispel protection, and time where poison cleansing totems were a thing ( hello crippling and wounding falling off 24/7 ).

Muti worked just fine, I held #1 RPS team in the world for quite some time on my main team ( later surpassed by some guys on a shady US battlegroup ), and got Glad in under 2 hours of queueing 1500-glad rating with a friend who forgot how to play his rogue and alt shaman of a buddy who didn't know how to play a shaman.

Calling out Rogues is completely uncalled for.


yes the overlords of the spec could do it

But that's precisely how Gladiator is meant to be gotten, though. Idiots getting Glad and R1 left and right without being proper quality for it is one of reasons this game blows most of the time.

#4384782 Fear has been overnerfed.

Posted Lolflay on 10 February 2015 - 03:44 AM

View PostGlink, on 09 February 2015 - 10:16 PM, said:

Priest fear should've either had only a cd or only a duration nerf. Not both.

- got nerfed from 27 to 45 sec cooldown

- got nerfed from 8 to 6 sec duration

- essentially removed an entire talent tier from priests because it's been removed as a baseline spell and placed as a talent

the #3 is most mind boggling, could've lived just fine with the #1 and #2 if #3 didn't happen ( well, barely with #1, but who cares about #2 when #1 and #3 exist )

#4384478 Are Warriors Fine Right Now?

Posted Lolflay on 09 February 2015 - 04:30 PM

"Are warriors fine right now?" - are you fucking kidding me ? The class has insane damage ever since the dawn of the time. Zero respect for shitfaces who play Warriors tbh, I'd rather have kids who play RMD dominate this game until it dies, rather than have warriors win games at all.

"hehe 20% im so fucking good"