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#4248631 Burning rush vs CC

Posted Lolflay on Today, 05:03 PM

View Postbigtheo, on 31 October 2014 - 05:01 PM, said:

Depending on what you're facing it'd definitely be worth it IMO. Caster cleave would be good to break fears, hexes, and polymorphs. The way fears are breaking now, it's definitely better already than Unbound Will. There is definitely some skill required in it, but it's more forgiving than SWD for example.

Try none. Hellfiring Polymorphs back in the day ? Yeah, that was skill.

This ? Nope.


#4247944 What faction/race will you be going in WoD?

Posted Lolflay on Today, 01:55 AM

Dwarf on my Alliance Shadow Priest, hands down.

As for Horde, staying Undead even though it's infinitely shittier than other races.


#4244701 Cheating, AJ & You

Posted Lolflay on 27 October 2014 - 08:10 PM

View Postjaimex, on 27 October 2014 - 07:42 PM, said:

most people with a problem with boosting are too shit / too unknown to get regular boosts. Hence why they don't like it, people want what they can't have. Most players dont give two shits about whether or not duelist jimmy gets his title cause some big bad r1 player beat him one game at 2400 mmr :(

Oh. My. Fucking. God.

The moment a person actually starts to tolerate you and maybe think that you'll turn out alright in the end, you write shit like this. You're a lost fucking cause, aren't you ? Take it from someone who did more boosting than you've had chance to during your little Ele Shaman escapade - if you're doing it, at least don't be a dick about it. You can't honestly believe boosting is good for this game ?


Here's a personality trait I had before. I used to be extremely hostile towards some players ( who I guess you could call "new kids on the block" ) who got Gladiator/R1 in the past, mostly because I didn't deem them worthy enough ( If I'm > them, why did they get reward >= mine ? )

But even though I was bitter towards them, I've ACCEPTED them. And do you know why ? BECAUSE those players are what keeps ARENA alive.


We have two players, Bob and Murray.

Bob is a guy with 3000 arena games in this season, Bob is a solid Duelist, but he might have a shot at Gladiator in 1000ish more games.

Murray likes chasing tail more than playing arena, but Murray wants Gladiator. Murray decides to buy Gladiator.

Bob gets at the exact rating the cutoff is at. Murray's boost knocks Bob out. Murray walks around with the title, while Bob, a legitimate player who probably would've continued playing arena if not for scumbags, is left in dirt.


Sure, Bob can try next season, and he probably will, but he's been fucked out of a title he worked really hard for, while on another hand, Murray just got his Glad achievement, title and mount, and will probably never participate in arena again at all.




TL;DR - anyone who supports boosting in any way is fucking retarded.  Timeline of events :

- R1/Gladiator means something, is a prestigious thing to acquire in this game.

- more people start playing arena

- Gladiator cutoffs lower themselves each season ( not proportional to skill )

- morons start sharing R1 titles ( while claiming they don't care about them, interestingly enough they care about them so much they're willing to scout 24/7 and play hard to land at share rating )

- at one point, old, better players start separating themselves from new players ( community divided )

- new players' entry into highrated PvP scene becomes very hard

- boosting starts being a regular thing

- cheating becomes a regular thing

- DDOSing becomes a regular thing

- PvP quality continously declines

- "who gives a shit about this game omfg, new players suck, boosting cheating etc"



You're all fucking hypocrites, and more importantly, morons. Saying you give a shit about a pixelated title doesn't make you less of a person, and taking MASSIVE shits on the thing you love playing for the sake of "reputation" is basically taking shits on yourself. "Yeah man, my hobby totally blows, I'd rather eat hot horse shit than do it, but I'm still doing it". Bunch of imbeciles.


#4240744 Nympeu I don't understand

Posted Lolflay on 23 October 2014 - 09:36 AM

View PostGigana, on 23 October 2014 - 08:30 AM, said:

I think it was 140 or so on a test I did a few years back. The test labelled it very high average. What does IQ has to do with anything, btw?

I've had my dick tested and he scored higher than you, you should be ashamed ~


#4240273 Hopefully Cleaves>Wizards in WoD

Posted Lolflay on 23 October 2014 - 12:29 AM

Hopefully both are shit, and melee/caster/healer shit on all of them.


#4240255 List of problems that I feel they're either addressing the wrong way or a...

Posted Lolflay on 23 October 2014 - 12:22 AM

View PostCasawn, on 22 October 2014 - 10:38 PM, said:

Nice, so every class needs a nerf on their survivability and cc breaks aside from mage and spriest who need buffs on their ccs and damage.  Sounds like somebody wants to keep god comp as a top tier faceroll one shot comp.

You're fucking hilarious. Mentioning a core Priest ability being heavily nerfed is clearly bias towards Godcomp. Mentioning Mages being absolute dogshit on beta is clear bias towards Godcomp. I've mentioned Warlocks, that means I'm clearly biased regarding LSD, too ? Nice fucking logic man.

And yes, every class NEEDS a nerf on survivability and CC breakers for the health of this game. Extra trinkets are a fucking stupid mechanic, and so is shit like Spirit Bond.

The only guy who is biased here is you pretty much. But whatever, think what you will, my opinion is not important, and your opinion is even less important.


#4240102 Path of Shadow - a Shadow Priest guide, 6.0.0 and beyond

Posted Lolflay on 22 October 2014 - 09:29 PM

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Unless something major happens, at this point of time Shadow Priests will stay as they are, which means that it's a prime time to have a 6.0 guide. I have no idea if Jaime feels like updating his guide, but he's free to use parts of this guide to update his own if he intends on keeping it up to date.


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[0] Introduction

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[1] Main section

1.1) Changes between 5.4.7 and 6.0.0 patches

1.2) Talents

1.3) Glyphs

1.4) Abilities

1.5) Races

1.6) Other changes that concern us

1.7) Arena compositions

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[2] Extras

2.1) Streams

2.2) Macros

2.3) Keybindings

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[3] Conclusion


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Hello. For those of you who don't know me, I'm a 9x titled, 2900 experienced Shadow Priest who quit in Cataclysm and returned in S15 for casual play in preparation for WoD, where I intend to play full time again. I also have 3x Glad titles as a Warlock, and I used to be a really bad Rogue ( :) ). Most of my time I've spent on Stormscale ( old EU-Cyclone ) and Frostwhisper ( old EU-Rampage ), and after S7 I've resided on Kor'gall ( EU-Cruelty ), which turned into a massive battlegroup due to massive transfers in S8/S9 to a guild I was the GM of. I've been playing a Shadow Priest on both live and beta extensively these past few weeks, and I'm excited for what WoD is bringing to the table, both Shadow Priest wise and in general.



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- Inner Fire and Inner Will are no more. RIP

- Renew and Binding Heal have been removed from the spec, RIP

- Prayer of Mending has a cast time

- Psychic Scream is now a talent, replacing MoP's Psyfiend ( good riddance ). Also now has a 6 second duration and a 45 second cooldown, belongs to DISORIENT DR category and DRs with plenty of other CCs ( more on that later )

- Dispersion, Shadow Fiend and Vampiric Touch NO LONGER RESTORE MANA. Shadow had its passive mana regen upped, and can now completely ignore the mana bar ( unless Flash Healing often )

- Holy Nova can no longer be glyphed, and is a Disc/Holy exclusive spell now. ( not that it matters, as it wasn't used much at all, if at all, but still )

- Mastery has been replaced - Mastery now flat out increases damage done by Mind Blast, Mind Spike and Mind Flay

- Psychic Horror no longer Disarms, and now belongs to INCAPACITATE DR category

- Devouring Plague now consumes 3 Shadow Orbs, you don't have the ability to use with less Orbs as you could before

- Vampiric Embrace has been lowered down to 10% ( 20% with the Glyph )

- we have lost the Dispersion set bonus, and instead need to glyph into Dispersion movement speed again

- Angelic Feather speed has been lowered to 60%

- LVL 100 ( 90+ ) changes that have yet to happen :

- we will now have the maximum of 5 Orbs instead of 3, with no ability or spell consuming more than 3 orbs at time. Leveling perk.

- Shadow Word: Death will ALWAYS generate a Shadow Orb, regardless of any circumstance ( this mainly goes towards its reset when it fails to kill a target ) - leveling perk

- Mind Flay recived an additional tick, and in return deals damage 33% faster - leveling perk

- Power Word : Shield will have its Weakened Soul debuff reduced by 5 seconds - leveling perk

- 2 set Shadow bonus : 1950 Versatility for 10 seconds after Dispersion ends

- 4 set Shadow bonus : Psychic Horror will refund Shadow Orbs spent on the ability, at the rate of 1 Shadow Orb / 3 sec


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Talents have been rearranged, and 3 new talents have been added for level 100.

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Tier 1 used to be the CC tier, now it's the defensive tier. The options are clear, a 22% instant cast heal on a 2 minute cooldown, a in-combat Stealth on 30 second cooldown, or a Priest variation of Cheat Death that yields a shield.

The choice falls down on you, the player, but in most situations, Spectral Guise is a clear winner. Not only does it allow you to do things you couldn't do otherwise ( sometimes avoid Rogue/Mage/x openers, have a unpredictable opener yourself, etc ), but Shielding yourself and Spectral Guising will usually net your healer more time to pick you up, resulting in a bigger effective defensive ability than both of the other talents combined. However, they do have a situational use and I'm sure some players won and will win games thanks to them, but those are rare and situational at best.

Verdict : take Spectral Guise

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The mobility tier. You have a choice between a talent that increases your speed when you shield yourself, a talent which lets you drop Feathers on the ground for use by both you and your team mates, or Phantasm, a root+snare remover and mini-freedom.

Body and Soul immediately goes out of the picture, when there's a superior talent present ( Angelic Feather ). The choice boils down between Feather and Phantasm. Angelic Feather got nerfed to 60% in 6.0.0 - before the patch, you could Angelic Feather yourself while slowed with Crippling Poison/Hamstring/etc, and Angelic Feather and whatever snare effect you had on yourself would cancel out, meaning that you'd move at your usual movement speed ( 100% ) - however that's not the case anymore with Feather's nerf to 60%, meaning that Phantasm will once again play a role as a viable talent.

Verdict : completely up to you, as long as you ignore Body and Soul. Feathers will be the superior choice if you play with classes that can provide you with the Blessing of Freedom effect ( immunity to slows and roots ), while Phantasm will find its use in comps which do not provide you with said effect. Pick depending what comp you are running and what comp you're facing.

p.s. Angelic Feather into Spectral Guise is still a thing, happy fearing people

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Single target damage tier. All three talents feel viable unlike in previous expansion, and your choice will boil down to what comp you're playing, what comp you're facing and your own personal preference.

Surge of Darkness now has a chance to proc off both Vampiric Touch and Devouring Plague, and can now accumulate up to 3 charges ( up from 2 ), which is a pretty decent buff. Mindbender provides your Shadowfiend with the ability to restore mana ( ordinary Shadowfiend does not do that anymore ), and a bit of extra damage on a lower cooldown. Insanity now procs from any Shadow Orbs consuming mechanic, and uses the 2 sec/shadow orb consumed formula to determine the buff duration, during which your Mind Flay deals extra 100% damage.

There's no clear winner here. All three are viable, and you can't go wrong. However, due to the nature of the game come WoD, where instant casts are highly favoured ( due to the melee nature of the game ), Surge of Darkness and Mindbender feel a little bit better than Insanity, as I haven't found myself in too many situations where I've been able to sit and freecast.

Entirely up to you.

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The CC tier. Recieved the most overhaul with removal of Psyfiend ( and subsequent addition of Psychic Scream, /sigh @ Blizzard )

Void Tendrils still root the target until they're killed, but now have the added effect of breaking on target damage too. Psychic Scream has been nerfed to 45 second cooldown, and now lasts 6 seconds instead of 8 ( now lines up perfectly with your Silence though, meaning landed Fears will actually be more scarier for the enemy team as you'll always be able to Fear into Silence ). Dominate Mind is unchanged.

You'll pick Psychic Scream in 90% of situations. You are pidgeonholed into playing with Psychic Scream as long as you're playing with partners that don't have access to disorient CC category themselves. The other 10% of time, you'll be playing with someone the likes of a Warlock, meaning that, depending on Warlocks own choices, you'll be able to play with Void Tendrils instead.

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Second damage tier.

Twist of Fate is pretty bad in arena ( very decent in rated bgs though ), whereas Power Infusion and Shadowy Insight are in a collision here, arena wise.

Power Infusion is very very powerful paired with the new Insanity talent. However, as I've already said, chances of you being allowed to freecast whenever you want versus anyone decent are slim to none, whereas Shadowy Insight got buffed and now has a chance to proc off Mind Spike as well, having a clear synergy with Surge of Darkness from tier 3.

Choice is between Power Infusion and Shadowy Insight. It's entirely up to you, again. I prefer Shadowy Insight, although I've grown to not care about it due to Clarity of Power ( level 100 talent, explained a few tiers below ), so I've been meddling with Power Infusion lately. I like both, feels more like a flavour choice than anything. Your call.

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Aoe damage tier.

The biggest change in this tier has been the removal of healing on all of the spells.

Cascade is still a pretty bad choice ( again, same deal as with Twisted Fate - it's awful for arena, but pretty insane in rated BGs ), pitting you between Divine Star and Halo. Both talents still break CC ( or at least did few days ago when I've tested ), with Halo doing more damage but being less controllable, to Divine Star doing less damage but being more controllable ( also breaks enemy stealth/invis, unlike Halo ).

Up to you. Can't go wrong with both, but as much as I like Halo, I still pick Divine Star more often. The positive side of picking Halo before was the healing effect, as it could crit up 100k+ if cast from maximum range. Seeing it does not do that anymore, Divine Star seems like the logical choice most of the time. It's more controllable and castable more often, breaks stealth, etc.

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Level 100 talents tier.

Your choice here will lie between Clarity of Power and Auspicious Spirits. Void Entropy has been an absolute garbage of a DoT so far, both in PvE testing and PvP gameplay.

Auspicious Spirits will potentially work in a combo such as Shadowplay, where you want to spread your damage and simply PvE. It synergizes extremely well with all talents as well ( both Surge of Darkness+Shadowy Insight and Insanity+Power Infusion work very very well )

However, clear winner of this tier is Clarity of Power. It basically defines Shadow Priests on level 100 in PvP, and makes them into a great spec they feel like on beta right now. Insant Mind Blast on a 3 second lower cooldown is HUGE, and 40% extra damage on swaps is also huge. Storing Spike Charges and making a quick swap proved very deadly on beta, especially with Horror Orb regeneration effect from 4set PvP bonus.

You'll want to take CoP in almost every instance possible, clear winner.


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NEW glyphs :

- Glyph of Delayed Coalescence - I've found a lot of uses for this Glyph, as it pretty much allowed me to survive situations where I would've otherwise died ( shield - 9 seconds dispersion when shield gets broken - weakened soul expires 1 second after Dispersion ends with this glyph; shield again , only to mention a possible use; your healer will love this glyph because with the removal of all the CC from the game, people won't randomly toss around CC and just go ultra aggressive whenever they feel like it, they'll start CC chains more properly and it'll be harder to avoid some than before - this glyph is designed for such situations, where you can't count on your healer for 10+ seconds )

- Glyph of Free Action - old Shadow PvP set bonus, nerfed from 60% to 30%. Might find uses, but seeing you can simply Angelic Feather into Dispersion in most situations, this is a flavour choice

- Glyph of Mind Harvest - currently really good on live 2s, however I don't see much use outside of it. On 100, Clarity of Power takes care of orb generation, and as such, having 6 second extra cooldown on Mind Blast during the entire arena game for a better opener really isn't worth it ( outside of very quick 3s games, I've found it useful versus triple melee teams )

- Glyph of Restored Faith - the best thing added in the expansion. This allows you many plays otherwise impossible, and allows you to have an upper hand on melee teams ( that will be quite prevalent in WoD ). Must have.

- Glyph of Silence - Before I mention what I found about this Glyph, keep in mind that Psychic Scream is now a 45 second cooldown ( gg Blizzard ... ), the EXACT same cooldown as unglyphed Silence. This allows you to line up EVERY Psychic Scream together with a Silence, I don't even need to tell you how powerful that is. However, this Glyph can still be good. A 3 second duration Silence on a 20 second cooldown ? This will be VERY good if you're playing a comp with CONSISTENT pressure, and it'll make enemies sweat if you have kill opportunity windows that DO NOT rely on you landing Psychic Screams - in such situation, this Glyph is amazing.

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The following are the glyphs you'll find yourself using in arena :

- Glyph of Fade - it's still very useful in WoD, however, unlike in MoP, there are other viable contenders for its spot

- Glyph of Mass Dispel - very good against Paladin ( Divine Shield/Blessing of Protection ) and Warlock ( Dark Bargain ) teams, and decent versus Mage ( Ice Block ) teams

- Glyph of Mind Blast - your hidden trump card. We'll have a pretty decent amount of crit in WoD, and a 4 second root on Mind Blast crit ( extra synergy with Shadowy Insight+Clarity of Power ) is something that will be very very good against melee teams

- Glyph of Psychic Horror - allows you to use your Psychic Horror spell more often. Considering Psychic Horror now refunds your Shadow Orbs used on the spell itself, this became a very viable and decent option. Might see people stacking this Glyph with Glyph of Silence, because our only CC has been nerfed from 23 sec cooldown to 45 second cooldown.

- Glyph of Delayed Coalescence - no explanation needed here, if a certain team has a tendency to create a huge lockdown on your healer, this proved very useful

- Glyph of Restored Faith - in my opinion, a must have - it's a Priest version of Warlock and Monk portal; Mage Blink, etc.

- Glyph of Silence - situational at best, but in a world where all 3 of your CC spells are 45 second cooldown, might prove very good in comps that have high pressure and have kill opportunity window open often

- Glyph of Vampiric Embrace - the worst out of all listed viable glyphs, but it can find its use.

- Glyph of Weakened Soul - seeing it stacks with the leveling perk, you'll get 8 second cooldown shields. PWS isn't all that amazing, but it's still a very useful spell, especially with the removal of Renew - this allows you to be of extra help to your team mates when they need it


There's no clear verdict on the Glyph situation, however it seems that Glyph of Restored Faith will be a FOTM choice, whereas other Glyphs will be used by personal preference. I myself rolled with Restored Faith/Mind Blast/Glyph of Weakened Soul, and swapped Weakened Soul with Mass Dispel when versus teams with immunities; I've seen other Shadows roll with different setups, all seemed to work. Only constant was : Glyph of Restored Faith.


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( I've excluded the 6 abilites ( Vampiric Touch, Shadow Word : Pain, Mind Blast, Mind Flay, Devouring Plague, Shadow Word : Death ) found in "Core Abilities" section of your Shadow Priests spell book - they're sufficiently explained there - the only thing I'll mention is that Devouring Plague is recommended to be used "on CD" ( aka, every 3 Orbs built ) - however that's not the case in PvP. You need have a "feeling" when it's fine to use Devouring Plague and when you should simply save the Orbs, either for DP or for Horror - this comes naturally as you play the spec more )

- Dispel Magic - Removes 1 magic effect from enemies. One of best abilities we have, use it to strip down Resto Druid HoTs, Priest shields, beneficial buffs, etc - it has a limited use compared to how it used to be before, but it's still one of best spells in Shadow Priest's arsenal

- Dispersion - your "oh crap" button. Use when absolutely necessary, you want to delay using this ability as much as possible, because if you manage to save it when enemy team blew their cooldowns, it creates huge pressure on them. No longer restores mana, therefore only used when you need to mitigate damage.

- Fade - useless, unless you're using Fade glyph.

- Fear Ward - target this is placed on negates one Fear effect on them. Seeing this is Dispellable ( and more importantly, Spellstealable ), try to not pre-buff it, and instead cast it when you need it.

- Flash Heal - your healing spell. Not exactly super effective, but great when you need to help out on healing.

- Leap of Faith - this spell has two uses, depending on what glyphs you use. If you use no Glyphs, it pulls your partner to you. If you use Glyph of Restored Faith, it pulls yourself to your party/raid target. Both instances have great uses.

- Mass Dispel - very useful, even without Glyph. It dispels negative effects on your partners, allowing you to dispel a sheep/trap/etc every 15 seconds.

- Mind Sear - not used in arena for most part, except for keeping people behind a pillar in combat, or trying to stop a stealthed opener/trying to keep a stealther from stealthing.

- Mind Spike - used when you're locked on your Shadow school, or when Surge of Darkness procs

- Power Word : Fortitude - self explanatory.

- Power Word : Shield - spammed on cooldown in tight situations

- Prayer of Mending - used to be great, not so much with added casting time. Not useful unless facing a Death Knight or a Warlock team, where it'll bounce a lot.

- Psychic Horror - extremely useful spell - you'll be spamming this on cooldown if the opportunities present themselves, especially because it refunds 3 Shadow Orbs in 9 seconds after its usage

- Psychic Scream - I realise that this is a talent, but you'll be using it in 90% of cases, as it's your pidgeonholed talent choice ( extremely poor decision by Blizzard to put a core spell as a talent, and then to nerf it to the extreme as well ). You'll be using it on cooldown to create CC chains, both with your partners and on your own ( Psychic Horror and Silence )

- Shackle Undead - warrants a bind because of Death Knights. Shackle empowered Death Knight pets ( abominations ), and shackle gargoyles, it's more than worth the global.

- Shadowfiend - now a DPS cooldown. Pop it when you need extra damage during kill attempts.

- Silence - prevents enemy from casting for 5 seconds. Extremely versatile uses, and not only on healers - if you have a healer in CC and you're going for a kill on the DPS, you can use Silence to prevent Touch of Karma*/Diffuse Magic from Monks, or prevent Anti Magic Shell from Death Knights, the list goes on. You'll be using this in conjecture with your other CC spells to create CC chains that, in return, create kills ( or draw loads of cooldowns from enemy team ). Your most useful spell.


( * apparently Silence doesn't prevent Touch of Karma anymore, just tried it on beta, and it's true )

- Vampiric Embrace - pop when your team needs healing, but you're free to damage. This, combined with PW:S on cooldown, creates decent healing utility. Don't expect it to keep someone alive through hard damage, but it helps your healer out a bit when needed.



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Alliance Priest races :

- Human

Humans remain the best choice when it comes to damage. You're still able to equip two PvP damage trinkets while keeping the PvP trinket ability ( Human racial ), providing you with the most damage in PvP out of every other Priest race in the game. However, it depends on quality of available trinkets, and is not worth being a Human if trinkets are not really good.

- Dwarf

Dwarves became a viable choice with the Stoneform buff. It removes all poison, disease, curse, magic and bleed effects, and reduces physical damage taken by 10% for 8 seconds, all of that on a two minute cooldown. They're, as it stands, the best defensive race in the game that Shadow Priests have. This talent is great versus the likes of Rogue/Mage/x and various other comps that like to train the Shadowpriest. Synergizes well with Fade glyph, for 20% damage reduction on demand.

- Night Elf

Night Elves are the best when it comes to openers/defensive stealthing. Spectral Guising into a Shadowmeld provides both a decent offensive and defensive option. I've had trouble Shadowmelding stuff on beta, but it's still there, too, allowing a skilled Shadow Priest to avoid a CC altogether.

- Gnome

Gnomes and their Escape Artist are a decent option, however nothing overly interesting.

- Draenei

They have a HoT that heals for 20% health over 5 seconds, on a 3 minute cooldown. Situational at best.

- Worgen

Not really worth mentioning, as their racial is something you most likely already have as a talent ( Angelic Feathers ). It is however, very decent if you're using Phantasm.


Horde Priest races :

- Undead

A classic choice, but one of the worst choices as it stands on beta. With Will of the Forsaken nerfed to 3 minute cooldown, and with Fear effects not being as prevalent in WoD, it gets easily outshadowed by other choices. Still, a decent choice, and a minor bonus being that Touch of Grave can proc off Multistrike procs.

- Troll

Really good choice, especially if you're rolling with a Insanity oriented build ( Insanity-Power Infusion ), popping Power Infusion with Troll Berserk gives you a insane burst potential.

- Blood Elf

Best choice out of Horde races at the moment. Not only do you recieve passive 1% crit extra, but you also get Arcane Torrent, a AOE silence, which by the way, is one of four Silence effects still in the game - Silence, Garrote, Strangulate, and Arcane Torrent

- Tauren

Warstomp is decent, but nothing special. Not worth mentioning.

- Goblin

Second best Horde option, tied together with Trolls. Rocket Jump is insanely useful, especially in the melee oriented game that is WoD.

Neutral :

- Pandaren

They have a CC that DRs with almost everything in the game now. Not a viable choice.


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- Tremor totem got changed. Shamans can no longer drop it while Feared, and are now required to drop it before you Fear. This will create ( boring or interesting, we'll see ) mind games, but the end result is clear - if you land a Fear, you've landed it.

- Mages can no longer Deep Freeze you and deal damage to you while you're stunned. They can however Frostjaw or Ice Nova you instead, providing a similar effect. They also do not have a silence component on Counterspell, allowing you to immediately start casting Mind Spike after being interrupted by Counterspell.

- Warriors have lost Stun component on their Charge, allowing them to Charge-Pummel us ( which can sometimes be worse than being simply stunned, as it disallows use of Dispersion )

- Prayer of Mending now has charges, and acts as a dispel protection on the target you're trying to dispel

- Monks don't blanket silence you anymore when they interrupt you

- Death Knights are no longer Undead when they Lichborne, which means that you can't Shackle them anymore. Mixed feelings about this.

- pulling yourself to a target via Glyph of Renewed Faith apparently breaks stealth openers from Ferals and Rogues. Managed to replicate it a few times, seems quite useful


- as I've already mentioned, Shadow lost its mana regeneration tools ( unless you're playing with a Mindbender ), and in return had its passive mana regen boosted so much that you don't really need to worry about mana at all anymore in most situations. However, be VERY careful if you drop form and start spamming Flash Heal, this CAN make you OOM very fast, and now you have no way to recover outside of waiting for mana regen to kick in, or drinking. Spamming Power Word: Shield and Dispel Magic can also make a dent in your mana bar, but nothing too significant.

- Psychic Scream now belongs to DISORIENT DR category, which means it now DRs with a lot of other CC it didn't previously DR with; notably with Cyclone, killing ( or crippling ) Shadow Priest/Resto Druid synergy


- Psychic Horror now belongs to INCAPACITATE DR category, which means that it now DRs with : Sheep,  Trap, Sap&Gouge, Disorienting Roar, Hex, Mortal Coil, Shackle Undead, Repentance, Hibernate, Ring of Frost


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WIP

It's way too early to tell how the metagame will evolve, and this section at this current moment should be taken as-is until season 16 rolls around, however I've noticed two very solid combos on beta. Shadow Priest/Rogue/Holy Paladin seemed to counter melee cleaves, and did very well versus already traditional compositions such as RMP and others. I was pleasently surprised with Shadow Priest/Death Knight as well, however I couldn't tell the difference between the healers as the talent pool was very limited and they did very basic mistakes.


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On level 100, enchants and gems are a scarce resource. In WoD you'll be able to enchant necks, rings and weapons. I haven't come across of a way to enchant other pieces of equipment, but I haven't explored beta outside of arena. However from what I've heard - that's all there is to it. All the lower level enchants have been prohibited from being used on higher level equipment.

As for gemming, you have zero gem slots.

Professions also play no role whatsoever, because none of them have any combat-related perks anymore ( only exception being Engineering, but none of the Engineering toys work inside arena ).

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http://www.twitch.tv/talbadar - r1 spriest
http://www.twitch.tv/khyrl - r1 spriest
http://www.twitch.tv/snutzy - r1 warlock that occasionally streams his shadow priest alt
http://www.twitch.tv/jahmillionaire - r1 spriest
http://www.twitch.tv/wizkx - r1 spriest

Will add more when I see any others.


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/cast [target=focus] Silence

- casts Silence on your focus target

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#showtooltip Shadowfiend
/petattack
/cast Shadowfiend
/cast Shadowcrawl

- all in one Shadowfiend macro. What this does is directs your Shadowfiend's attacks to the target you're attacking, and casts Shadowcrawl in case he acts stupid and doesn't use it himself ( :) ).

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/cast [target=party1] Power Word: Shield

- Casts PW: S on your first party member. Replace party1 with party2 and etc to cast it on other targets

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/cast [target=NAME] Fear Ward

- Replace NAME with whatever name of the person you want Fear Warded.

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/cancelaura Dispersion

- I use this when I need to cancel Dispersion. Especially now, when it no longer restores mana, you shouldn't sit in it full duration unless you have to. Use it when it's important, cancel it when the trouble expired.

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/cast [target=focus] Psychic Horror

- Horrors focus target


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I'm of opinion that keybindings do not really matter, as every person should make up their own comfortable ones. However, too many people get lost when they're trying to set up an optimal setup when learning a new class, so I'm going to post my keybindings below for such usage. I'm in no way saying this is the optimal way to play a Shadow Priest, as I've already previously stated - keybindings don't matter, but this is what works for me, and some of you might find it useful.


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DPS abilities
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1 - Shadow Word: Pain
2 - Mind Flay
3 - Mind Blast
4 - Shadow Word: Death
E - Devouring Plague
F - Vampiric Touch
¸(tilda) - Mind Sear
T - Halo/Divine Star
Q - Mind Spike
Shift+F - Shadowfiend/Mindbender

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Utility
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V - Angelic Feather
Mouse wheel down - Dispel Magic
Shift+V - Dispersion
Ctrl+F - Fade
H - Fear Ward
Mouse button 5 - Flash Heal
CTRL+Q - Leap of Faith
F1 - Levitate
X - Mass Dispel
Shift+Y - Mind Vision
F5 - Power Word: Fortitude
Mouse button 4 - Power Word: Shield
CTRL+ Mouse button 4 - Prayer of Mending
Shift+E - Psychic Horror
Shift+ Mouse button 4 - Psychic Scream
F7 - Resurrection
F3 - Shackle Undead
, - Shadowform
R - Silence
Shift+R - Spectral Guise
Shift+Q - Vampiric Embrace

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F2 - Cannibalize
F4 - Mount
Shift+F4 - Flying mount
Mouse wheel up - Racial ability
Shift+Mouse wheel up - PvP trinket
Shift+Mouse button 5 - on-use damage ( trinkets, racials, abilities such as Power Infusion, etc )
Shift+S - water/water+food

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Macros
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Alt+E - Focus Horror
Alt+R - Focus Silence
Ctrl+1 - Shield Party1
Ctrl+2 - Shield Party2
Shift+1 - Focus arena1
Shift+2 - Focus arena2
Shift+3 - Focus arena3
B - Cancel Dispersion
5 - Fear Ward on myself
Y - Fear Ward on healer


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This is very much so work in the progress, and I'll keep updating it whenever something new pops up. As for Shadow in WoD, I feel we're in a very decent spot. We're both fun to play, and very useful in arena - my only annoyance is Blizzard's shameless placement of Psychic Scream into Talents, thus pidgeonholing Priests into speccing Psychic Scream ( and not only that, it's been nerfed heavily as well ). Outside of that, I feel like they've done a very good job with the spec. Clarity of Power introduced a fun gameplay element that allows us to alleviate all the pressure melee classes had over us in the past, and unlike in MoP, we have steady Shadow Orb generation even while trained, and our mana isn't an issue anymore.



If you have any questions, don't be afraid to ask, both via PM or here.


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#4237360 rogue mage druid

Posted Lolflay on 20 October 2014 - 01:14 PM

View PostRokbite, on 20 October 2014 - 11:26 AM, said:

ps. Did you get boosted on druid then since you say its a bad alt? 3k 3v3 seems pretty legit to me

Ya Miix played on that druid, pretty public knowledge, but nobody gives a shit about it so nobody is reporting him, the only question is who played on Flavours' warr ))


#4235713 List of problems that I feel they're either addressing the wrong way or a...

Posted Lolflay on 18 October 2014 - 10:39 AM

General

- Fear effects right now break on threshold of 1-2 dot ticks, last 6 seconds on max duration and randomly move the feared player around - it was suggested a THOUSAND times to either keep it @ 8 seconds maximum while keeping the player rooted instead of making him run around like a moron, or to design it via glyph. They said a thousand times that Fear moving the player around randomly was the problem, next to it not breaking due to damage - where's the problem of removing the random moving around part, if the damaging part was already fixed ?

- Snares and roots are still a huge problem in the game. They in return create an even larger problem of having to keep retarded abilities in the game that counteract snares ( *cough*BoS*cough* ). Also, both snares and roots are either extremely effective or extremely useless, there's no middle ground. You can either keep the enemy players completely in check with snares/roots and they can't do shit all about it, or enemy players either have way too momentum ( and/or playing classes that easily get rid of them ) where said snares and roots are useless. New hunter auto shot slow being the prime example of polar opposite stupidity compared to BoS

- Instant CC is still in the game. Only displays of proper instant CCs are really AOE fears and RoF that can't be PoM'd. Stormbolt->Frost Trap will still be a fucking thing come WoD. ?!?!?

- Number of extra "trinkets" ( CC breakers ) in the game is still abnormally high. Unbound will, Nimble Brew, Berserker rage, etc. It just creates power creep and it'll continue to create it towards new expansions. Either remove them all or give them all Tremor Totem treatment.


- Rogue

- everyone recieved ability purges, Rogues remained the same for most part

- I partially supported Burst of Speed in MoP, however come WoD I really don't ; explanation below

- Rogues are thriving on level 100 because of the metagame. TBC and Cataclysm were kinda slow for the most part, allowing Rogues to thrive in those metagames because a Rogue with no fear of getting oneshotted is a Rogue that is free to fuck up enemy team completely - contrast to WoTLK where they could get stunned and oneshotted by proper teams, so they had to play very carefully, resulting in the proper way a Rogue should be played

- remove Cheap Shot and Garrote glyphs, they're an overkill

- Nerve Strike is way too powerful on lvl 100

- Feint is too powerful ( although it'll probably get nerfed because of PvE - it's making Rogues the premier ( and really only viable :D ) melee class in first tier of WoD )


- Death Knight


- IBF breaking stuns might be something they've had since they were released, it doesn't mean it shouldn't go

- Conversion as it stands is kind of dumb

- Blood should NEVER be a thing

- Desecrated Ground needs to go


- Monk

- Nimble Brew needs to go in its current incarnation - give it a Tremor Totem treatment or remove it completely

- MWs seem to be way too much mana efficient, Soothing Mist stopped giving Chi but the ability to spam Surging Mist without consequences makes sure they have endless supply of Mana Tea - they're also very strong healers right now in PvE, which will probably warrant a few % healing fixes, so I believe they'll be in a decent spot when it comes to that

- WWs are in a pretty good spot, they didn't deviate too much from their 90 playstyle, but aren't one shot wonders anymore. With added safety of melee classes ( no more oneshots ), they actually have the time to function as a proper melee class now, which is just fine. I'd only look at Surging Mist healing because it seems better than old Orbs.


- Paladin

- Holy : besides WoD having a cast time, they seem fine for the most part. They're not broken ( in fact they're last in PvE parses ), but they're equipped with the tools to deal with melee cleaves which will be prevalent in first season or two

- Ret : seems to do way too much healing, outside of that, damage can get a bit too spikey, however it seems fine




- Warlock

- remove Unbound Will - I've read a suggestion to replace it with Shadowflame, which actually seems pretty decent. ( It might directly contradict the snares&roots paragraph above, but a snare with a cooldown is not actually a problem in this game, only the CDless ones are )

- return Fel Flame or Searing Pain for Affliction

- Fear currently breaks on 1-2 ticks of DOTs, lasts 6 seconds, makes the target flee in random direction. Remove the fleeing part and bump it back to 8 seconds.

- Priest

- Psychic Scream is a talent, lasts 6 seconds, has a cooldown of 45 seconds, breaks when the wind breezes by and randomly displaces the target during the duration of the effect. Return Psychic Scream as a baseline spell, remove the random running around part, keep the 45 second cooldown/6 second duration if need be - give Priests an actual talent tier instead of forcing them to take a spell that has been baseline for their class for past 10 years.

- Mage

- forcing Mages to cast Frostbolts is just fine, they wanted that back anyway, and I fully agree with them on that - however putting all of their damage into novas and prismatic crystal is the dumbest thing ever, it promotes one dimensional playstyle

- Deep Freeze not being a real stun anymore forces Mages to use it on partners instead of the target they're currently focusing - not a real problem for the likes of WMx or RMx, but this effectively stops diversity between Mage comps, and reduces their solo ability by tenfold

- Shaman

- Tremor finally seems to be in a decent spot

- Elemental : does no damage, and they're last in PvE parses on 100 ( I hear that Jaimeretard already rerolled, tells you enough that you need to know about Elementals :) ) - they need a fundamental overhaul of their DPS mechanics, make them challenging enough so baddies ( :) ) can't succeed with them, while keeping them competitive - TL;DR turn them into a real spec/class finally, because every single time they were viable it was because of retarded oneshotting ability

- Enhancement : waaaaay too much healing and survivability, probably take a look at Wolves, outside of that, damage seems fine-ish

- Restoration : seems lackluster on level 100, although they seem really strong currently on level 90.

- Warriors

- seriously, add cast time to Storm Bolt. If CC has range ( and isn't a interrupt/Silence ), it should ALWAYS have a cast time, PERIOD. Shockwave is fine

- waaaaaaay too much damage and survivability, mobility still really really good, MoP all over again

- remove Berserker Rage

- Hunters

- instant freezing trap ? Either make the effect really noticeable while it's flying ( give it a fucking Supernova GFX for all I care, just make it actually seeable with naked eye, it's nigh impossible to notice it on some arenas unless you're using addons to notify you of hunter casting it

- Auto show slows ? Seriously ?

- Druids

- way too good on 100, too much survivability

- they're #1 on PvE parses as Resto afaik, while still healing mostly via instant casts - it sucks seeing shit like Prayer of Mending or Word of Glory casted when Resto Druids can simply do the same effect with instant casts

- Ferals are way too much broken, and need to be fixed. Their uptime together with their damage does not compute at all

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I'm sure I've missed quite a few things, however this is all the really glaring issues I've noticed so far.


#4235521 Thoughts on the Prepatch so far?

Posted Lolflay on 18 October 2014 - 12:53 AM

View PostSiuox, on 17 October 2014 - 04:20 PM, said:

purge should have a cooldown
ret/enhance offheal too strong
hotw too strong
fear/cyc dr but no sheep/cyc?
rogue has too much cc, silence/stun/gouge/blind/passive slow
solar beam might be too long
there should be a glyph that increases fear duration by 2 seconds but targets stand still

Fear/Blind/Cyclone is "Mez" category, while Sheep/Sap/Horrors etc is "Incapacitate", shouldn't share DR in the first place.

As for the last part.. Just fucking return Psychic Scream as a baseline spell for Priests. This is way too fucking retarded to have it nerfed to 45 seconds, put as a talent and made it last 6 seconds. It's only two out of three that they should do, not all three things. Keep it 45 and last 6 seconds but give us our fucking talent tier back.


#4234159 Shadow

Posted Lolflay on 16 October 2014 - 11:19 AM

Harvest is fine for now, MB - DP is an insane opener currently. As far as Glyphs go, Fade/Weakened Soul/Harvest is cookie cutter for now, as for level 100, going to replace Harvest with either Restored Faith or Delayed Coalescence.

I don't see much point of Silence glyph in SP/Rogue/Healer, considering your Fear and Silence cooldown are basically the same now and that means you'll be setting up kills every ~45ish seconds ( which actually will feel the same as before considering most teams had Shamans and your Fears didn't stick until much later in the game, and you needed Silence to do anything anyway ), Dispel Glyph might be nice if we're going to do a lot of dispelling ( doubtful ), Mass Dispel will be worth it versus Paladins, everything Prayer of Mending/Horror/Scream related is absolute garbage, and I presume VE is garbage as well.


As far as gameplay on both 6.0 90 and 100 goes, I'm basically missing Renew and ProM the most. Before, while running/not able to cast, I had the choice of Renew/ProM/Shield/Dispel, while spamming Feathers, they completely removed Renew and it feels as if they removed ProM because it's not worth casting at all now that it's casted cast. ( what's up with that anyway ? Their policy of removing instant heals was absolutely fine for shit like Orbs, etc - but removing it for ProM is simply mind boggling )



We'll be very decent with a proper Rogue, some spellcleaves may work later on ( however I don't see Mages being viable partners anymore ), playing with a Ret might work as well. My biggest gripe is removal of one talent slot ( Psy Scream is basically mandatory ), they should've either nerfed Psy Scream CD or added it to talent tier, not do both ( and I'm hoping as fuck that every Priest is reporting that on beta as a very stupid decision ), would've been very nice to pick between MC/Tendrils etc, feels like we've lost a complete talent tier now. Hopefully they return Psy Scream as baseline at one point, because this is absolutely retarded. Outside of that, losing Renew feels like having a phantom limb, kind of like what losing Fel Flame feels for Warlocks - lost a completely not overpowered filler spell that was actually good for the health of game. Hopefully Holinka and other devs come to their sense, but I guess we'll see.


#4233817 rogue mage druid

Posted Lolflay on 16 October 2014 - 01:18 AM

View Postjaimex, on 15 October 2014 - 09:20 PM, said:

are the best classes in the game for 4 seasons in a row now

thanks blizzard

You're literally the most boring man on the planet, even your trolling is shit


#4231387 Exumbra/Swull/Lxxi wintrading/ddosing to rank 1

Posted Lolflay on 14 October 2014 - 08:24 AM

When people go into defensive overdrive, it's 99% certain that they did something they shouldn't have done.

Just a tip, retards :)


#4230676 Priest Overlords have RETURNED

Posted Lolflay on 13 October 2014 - 05:00 PM

View PostFeliclandelo, on 13 October 2014 - 03:57 PM, said:

? You can't admit to a broken mechanic or what. Most people believe Priests are hard to play this expansion, I don't know why.

Also I heard Priests and Druids are looking to be the top healers so far in WoD, I haven't read too much. I heard people running doublehealer DK with a Priest.

Whats your damage output like?


lol, who believes that ?

Priests are most dumbed down class in this fucking game, Shadow at least has SOME depth leftover, but holy is created so brain dead monkies can play it. You can get stunned on 20% after void swap and not die because of how ridiculously tanky you are. The only thing that's bad about priests is that they can fall behind on healing.


#4228816 LF Thread

Posted Lolflay on 11 October 2014 - 08:03 PM

View PostMattadoro, on 11 October 2014 - 07:29 PM, said:

every thread with a female ever has been deleted instantly, if the same thread were about a dude its chance of staying around go up 10 fold.. so awkward

its like aj is run by a secret organization of feminists

Berta Lovejoy confirmed.




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