If someone ques bgs and have their time ruined because of bots because they are trying real hard to win then they shouldn't que random bgs in the first place. That's a place for fucking around. So you really need to stop comparing bgs to arenas it's seriously retarded. When you bot bgs, at the end of the day ..
You do realize the point of PvP is to get to play against other people?
If you prefer playing against bots / mobs, then can queue fucking Onyxia.
S7 was probably balanced. S8 was less balanced but far more fun. Please let's not forget that everyone raged at double shadowmourne TSG, bauble of true blood was retarded, together with taunka/vrykul trinket tmorph... oh, I also laughed when my sacred cleansing procced.
It was just more fun though really. Regardless of the damage/healing ratio, bursty healing/bursty dmg stuff, the key point was that there was a difference between players. Even the simple fact that you had many more spells back then would provide far more entertainment..together with all the mechanics that were removed.
Hunters with min range for example added quite some skillcap, plus the fact that you had wing clip / raptor strike / mongoose bite was kind of "fun". As a warrior you had to stance dance so that was really really fun as well. As a holy paladin (this was a thing even in cata etc) you could decide whether to use wings and divine favor or just one of them, thus letting a good paladin save wings for later instead of having +3284923% healing when using them, like today.
I still love the game and love playing arenas with all myself really, I don't want to quit and I'm having a lot of fun. Inb4 "yes holy paladin ofc u like it"...that's not the point, I've always played this class and spec since 2007 as my main and still deeply love it.
However, some of the fun does go away when they think that the whole point of holy paladins being strong is fucking freedom glyph, instead of RETARDED healing during cds and close to nothing without wings...
You know, it's just so fucking sad when now you have to do MANDATORY things that EVERYONE can do. For example against a hunter, as a pala, you pretty much "HAVE" to BoP crows (unless ofc the situation just reaaally is safe). Today evening I tried not to follow this "simple rule", ending up on falling behind on healing because I tried to heal and save BoP; trying to outsmart the situation is not rewarding. You don't even have the tools to do so.
Paladins have this fucking shit mechanic of "Saved by the light". It's HORRIBLE, but it's damn needed! Take it away from a holy pala and watch them stuck on 2200.
When all of these "musts" didn't exist, and you had differentiation...you had a fun season. Not a balanced one, but a fun one.
Edit: I think the last time the game offered differentiation was S11 and Cataclysm, where atleast cleansing efficiency made some healers outstanding if compared to others. Everyone can do X and Y today instead, that's what's killing the game. Casuals can perform decently, and good players can't outperform too much less dedicated players; this hurts human nature sadly.
the illusion that the community can make this game better to the extent that it will resemble its former glory is taxing
i saw this post 7 years ago. i might have made it back then
eventually, after being drowned in the futility of optimism that constructive feedback will effect meaningful change, we all crash to the reality that you cannot do anything to make this game better. after your 902nd tweet to holinka or post on your class forums detailing the ways the class could be changed to be more rewarding to everyone playing it and interactive with others, you become desensitized to the obvious neglect of your positive ideas
communities better than ours have tried to improve their decaying interest when it was out of their control and watched it struggle due to neglect. ultimately, we all have the same revelation, which is that the fate of this game is not in our hands
this game was great when blizzard made it great, and lost steam when blizzard neglected it. we had a minimal effect on either. as a matter of fact, if you think the community is shit now, understand that most of the visible community is relatively mature. you should have seen it in vanilla when we were all 16 year old shitheads. it wasn't our attitude that made the game good
it's a great sentiment. i encourage everyone to go post your ideas in that thread. i don't think it'll have a significant long term positive impact, and if you have been playing this game as long as i have, neither do you
also why would he put this in a public stream? there isn't even great entertainment value. It's just a regular post breakup discussion like we've all had (implying the twitch chat nerds have all ever had a GF lmao)