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#4516173 The events of EU Regionals

Posted Siuox on 07 October 2015 - 08:35 PM

would be suprised if there are more than 3 mio subs left. their pure arrogance is just insane.

look at the recent pvp hotfixes. just ashran related stuff. they don't give a single fuck about all the bugs in the game (let's not talk about balance). I guess priest alone has like 5+? Even game breaking shit like get DC by mindcontrol.

your class is boring and not fun to play and you knew this the first time you played it on the beta realms. but they didnt give a fuck either.
"the only problem" in MOP was your time in CC and the cooldown dependent damage. but they really managed it to make it even worse. you were also able to play so many comps compared to now, halirious.

they even get undeserved 20€ if you buy the gold token FeelsBadMan

#4515354 The events of EU Regionals

Posted Celinedijon on 06 October 2015 - 03:04 PM

It's pretty amazing how Blizzard can be such a profitable company considering how stupid and arrogant they appear to the public eye, I suppose they are living on past achievements in terms of reputation. Diablo 2 and Warcraft 3, those where the glory days.

#4515321 The events of EU Regionals

Posted Fedx on 06 October 2015 - 02:38 PM

I was thinking a lot of what will happen after this event and what Blizzard can do. So basically high rated players in wow has always boosted. Why? Because there's a lot of money involved duh. And I agree with a lot of other players that boosting actually hurts the game. So if Blizzard were to implement a absolutely no account sharing policy for future tournaments that would actually be really good for the game.

And as I said above people boost because of the money, so what if Blizzard starts having more tournaments each year? Lets say 2-3. They can have their major blizzcon and then like 1 at Gamescom so that NA players could travel to EU for a international tournament. But to be able to compete in these tourneys you are not allowed to have any account share bans on your account. Nor make a new account if you got banned before on your old account. (As I said before this rule would start applying now, so for example Minpojkes s15 perm wouldn't matter etc) This will have players think twice about boosting since more tourneys = more money to be earned.

If this sort of thing actually would happen then it would be so good for the game. Lets also say that to qualify for either of these tourneys you would have to be "top x" on the ladder. This would result in a more active ladder/game and if players actually want to participate in tournaments they will not boost. So it will be a clean ladder for once.

Thats just my thoughts on it. However I'd still like Blizzard to adress what happened at EU regionals and explain it since the way they are acting right now and pretending nothing happened is VERY unprofessional

#4515309 The events of EU Regionals

Posted Infernion on 06 October 2015 - 02:08 PM

Hey everyone!

I've been reading a lot of stuff on the forums about the things that went down at the EU regionals this weekend, and I was thinking people would like some clarification/update from someone who was actually a part of it, instead of all these rumours.

I'd like to start off by debunking the rumour that Nolifers team supposedly reported Xonika for accountsharing to get him disqualified. The team of Reawakened 1 was in no way responsible for what happened to my team, just like we did not report their team in some pathetic attempt of payback. We respect each other as both players and persons, get along really well and just wanted a fair and exciting tournament.

When we arrived at the hotel thursday, Xonika told our team that he had received an e-mail by Blizzard saying he had gotten a 72-hour suspension on his account for account sharing, which put his account in bad standing for the weekend. Remembering that he had logged his own account from his girlfriends computer earlier that week, he asked his girlfriend to check her e-mail aswell, and just as expected she had also received a warning and what I believe was a message saying she would be ineligible to receive any titles this season.

After having discussed this issue as a team, we thought it'd be best to mention it to the ESL staff to make sure there would be no problem, as it was surely all just a misunderstanding caused by the automatic detector system Blizzard is using to prevent account sharing. The ESL staff told us they would contact Blizzard and thought, just like we did, that this wouldn't be a problem. During thursday and friday we had several conversations with the ESL staff, asking if there was any news on the matter. There wasn't, so we assumed that we would be allowed to participate on the same terms as other teams in the tournament.

When we woke up Friday, we ate some quick breakfast and went to the O2 Arena around 8.30 I believe, as we had to help Blizzard promote the teams better by taking pictures and shooting videos of everyone. This whole process was very poorly organized, and instead of just telling each team when they had to be at the different filming locations so everyone could practice while waiting, we all had to sit and wait in a locker room for several hours.

By the time all teams was done with this entire process consisting of individual and group photos, individual and group filming, filming of the team leaving a limousine, filming of the team walking around and lastly an interview, the time was around 16-17, and we could finally start setting up our characters on the tournament realm and get some practice in.

There was just one big problem with this process though. While the teams this year consisted of 4 players, there was only 3 computers per team. This meant you had to "sacrifice" one player, and basicly prioritize practising your main setup, needless to say that my team prioritized our shatter over our MLS. All the teams played a lot of wargames against each other, and when the clock hit 21, we were told that we had to leave. We left feeling pretty confident that we would place amongst the top 3, as long as we wouldn't choke on stage.

The games saturday was scheduled to start around 12 I believe, which made most teams wake up around 8-9 to get some good practice in before the actual tournament. Blizzard fixed taxis for us to the O2 arena, and upon the arrival we were all pretty pumped for the event, as the amount of people standing in line outside was pretty big (I'm sure people came to watch Heroes of the Storm or Hearthstone). Skipping the line was pretty awesome, and once we got settled we got quite a few of wargames in, once again feeling pretty confident.

Around 11.45, 15 minutes before we were scheduled to play, the top Blizzard employee present came to tell us, that Xonika could possibly be disqualified from the tournament. We tried to explain him the issue, and that it was all just a big misunderstanding, since none of us had been boosting  in the period between the 1st qualifier and regionals. He was super stubborn on the matter, but wanted to make sure no actions was taken that would punish an innocent team, so he decided to double check. 5 minutes before we were supposed to play Blizzard confirmed that Xonika was indeed disqualified, and his pro player badge was confiscated and he was escorted out of the arena. He wasn't even allowed to stay in the arena and watch his team and everyone else play!

While I was explaining to the other teams what was happening, I was told to shut the fuck up, as apparantly I wasn't allowed to do so. The admin was obviously really stressed out and frustrated by the situation aswell, and did come to apologize to me later after the tournament, which I respect him for. It was obviously a heat-of-the-moment kind of thing.

After several players failed attempts at challenging the decision that was made, including our opponents Fewen, Souken, Wafflez and Pyrocta, we realized nothing could be done. At this time me, Froffsy and Livin was pretty demotivated and mad, and Froffsy and Livin didn't even want to try to compete, which I fully understood. We did however go through the options we had, and due to Livin not wanting to set up his druid, we decided for me to set up a holy paladin to play shatter, which I have never played before. Blizzard gave me 20 minutes to do this, meaning I forgot to bind abilities like execution sentence.

The games started, and we lost our first game as shatter vs jungle. A fun fact to mention is that everyone actually lagged out in the end of the game for around 5-10 seconds, but there was no referee behind us to see this, so Blizzard claimed that no one disconnected. People could have used add-ons while playing at the backstage, and Blizzard wouldn't have noticed. The second game Froffsy and Livin wanted to play RMPala with arcane mage, due to no one actually caring at this point, which we obviously lost aswell.

In the meantime of our series, Nolifers team had knocked Fritterus, Cervantes & Cavyx to the losers bracket, meaning that we now had to face them.  We lost in a close series (Kappa) 2-0, and was thrown out of the tournament as 7-8th place. Nolifer now had to face Solari Gaming Yellow, and after having won the first game and being ahead in the series 1-0, there was a break that was prolonged several times. It ended up being around 25 minutes, whereafter Reawakened 1 was told to come meet Blizzard backstage. At this point the tournament was kind of a joke, and people didn't think it could get much worse - They were wrong! Nolifer was told that he was also disqualified. Apparantly Blizzard had been having a meeting since disqualifying Xonika, with some of the heads of their eSports department, and gone through every single player to find out that Nolifer was the only other player who had also done boosts in the time period between the 1st qualifiers and regionals.

Obviously their team was also not satisfied with this decision, and tried to challenge it with no luck. There was actually a lot of teams that tried to have the disqualified teams play in the tournament with no luck. Wafflez, Souken and Fewen even asked the Blizzard admin if all the teams could vote for it, and have them play if the teams would agree. All ideas was shut down.

They chose to drop out of the tournament instead of playing RPD, meaning that Three Languages One Team was no longer in the losers bracket. They had now advanced to the winners Bracket, and had  to face Solari Gaming Yellow. This also meant, that my team was supposed to face Reawakened 1 in the losers bracket instead of TLOT, which we got a free win for as they dropped out. As TLOT won Solari Gaming Yellow in the winners bracket, we had to face Solari Gaming Yellow on the mainstage.

I convinced Livin to set up his druid for us to play MLD, as I figured we maybe had a chance with that setup. This is where it got really funny. Blizzard didn't even show our promotional videos, probably because Xonika was in them. They didn't even mention the disqualification, and actually said that we had been practising MLD for the tournament. I'm sure Venruki, Vhell and Lore was told that it had to be this way, they had to do what they were told of course. I'm pretty sure they even tried to challenge the decision made by Blizzard off-screen, so props to them!

As we didn't really have much time to set up our characters, I forgot to track all enemy debuffs, meaning I couldn't chain any CC in the first game. Livin also forgot glyphs in the first game, aswell as forgetting to bind dispell for both games. It was kind of a disaster, and we ended up losing once again.


On the entire ban situation, I can say with 100% certainty, that Xonika logging his account from his girlfriends computer trigged the investigation of his account. He might not have gotten disqualified only because of him doing this, but it's what caused the investigation. Xonika didn't boost from the 1st qualifier to regionals. We knew that Lagyna had already been disqualified for doing this, why would we take the chance?

The Blizzard admin kept mentioning the fact that they looked into the accounts from the timeperiod between the 1st qualifier and regionals, but Xonika got the suspension for having boosted since the account creation. The rules was very inconsistent, just as they have been during the online qualifications. He was disqualified based on the fact that his account was in bad standing during the tournament.

It amazes me how Blizzard can say that they are 100% sure no other teams boosted in this time period, as we know for a fact that they did. Xonika didn't account share in the time period that was in the rules. If Blizzard was gonna disqualify people for having accountshared since the creation of their accounts, no teams would have been playing at regionals. Literally everyone there has done boosts, and does them every season, meaning they should find some other way to punish the players,  instead of disqualifying them from the only tournament that is held every year.

The question is - What will happen next year? What will happen at Blizzcon? Surely they will have to actually CLEAR players now, else ANYONE could get disqualified the next tournament for having boosted since account  creation.


I know I might sound super salty, and yes, this does indeed suck. But I'm happy for the teams that made it, and I enjoyed the weekend a lot. It was nice to finally get to meet all the players, and we all had a lot of fun, even though the mood took a big hit for some players saturday.

I thought I just wanted to clear all of this up, as Blizzard seems to be trying to hide what happened from everyone. The community deserves to know exactly what went down, which is why I wrote this wall of text that most people will probably not care about.

Once again, congratulations to all the 3 teams that made it, no one should have any hard feelings towards them, this is Blizzards fault. No teams reported each other for account sharing. Remember the fact that they could've qualified either way, it wasn't set in stone who was gonna qualify.

If you have any questions ask them here, and I'll answer them as fast as I can :)

#4514538 what a joke joke joke of a company

Posted Hiddenstalke on 05 October 2015 - 01:29 PM

View PostLloix, on 05 October 2015 - 01:19 PM, said:

Then ban 90% of the players that qualified and get new ones or don't boost so you don't get dq'd. What a joke joke joke of a 'professional' community.
Only reason these people boost is because WoW e-sports doesn't exist. Everyone wants to do what he loves doing for living- some people want WoW to be in such state similar to other big games(Dota2/LoL/CS:GO) where you can earn money from sponsors/Tournaments. However you can't do that in WoW. So all of these players look for different way and it's mostly by boosting for money and srsly you should NOT be banned from tournaments only because you boosted. You can get dq-d from in-game titles or whatnot but why would you ban top player from tournament only because he boosted and replace him with someone way less skilled.

Players should  be banned from tournaments for stuff like cheating and bad behavior.

#4512114 EU Regionals bois

Posted Dizzeeyo on 03 October 2015 - 11:18 AM

View PostLapeane, on 03 October 2015 - 11:16 AM, said:

which one is jaime?
the short fat one

#4513440 what a joke joke joke of a company

Posted Nicholaes92 on 03 October 2015 - 11:28 PM

View PostLolflay, on 03 October 2015 - 11:26 PM, said:

The above post was typed by Google's speech to text, I'm amazed how little mistakes it did. Holy s***, best feature ever, loving Android 5.1.1 update

If it was typed by Google speech how come I can't hear your voice.

#4513308 what a joke joke joke of a company

Posted Snappi on 03 October 2015 - 08:04 PM

They wont give a fuck, there is hundreds of thousands of ppl farming mounts and pets, not giving single fuck about tournaments played today. Holinka can go to a board meeting and say there is shit fucked up in pvp, and they will laugh at his face.

#4512963 what a joke joke joke of a company

Posted Zakathiques on 03 October 2015 - 03:31 PM

Almost sure, that praii asked blizzard to check accounts of each team to get random advantages by dsq :ph34r:

#4512786 what a joke joke joke of a company

Posted xndr on 03 October 2015 - 02:03 PM

holinka is really doing everything he can to get cdew to blizzcon

#4509768 ironbark + barkskin roots

Posted Fedx on 29 September 2015 - 11:15 PM

Yeah this mechanic has to go. As a WW Monk half the time I am chasing a rdruid and if I finally connect to him after a sap into leg sweep he will just skin and I can't do any dmg at ALL then. I wouldn't mind having the old ability called natures graps if i remember correctly? Just make it so they can't use it while stunned. Also rdruids shouldn't be able to shift roots imo, slows sure.

Edit: ironbark shouldn't be a thing either

#4509765 ironbark + barkskin roots

Posted sarma on 29 September 2015 - 11:12 PM

Resto druid , 2 skins both of them does instaroots , travel form 40% increased speed ,removes all snares and roots and has no CD :) , blink on top of this , auto sprint tied to blink on top of this, 2 EXTRA sprints because why da fuck not,  faerie swarm which you can cast from travel form LOLOLOLOL  , no cd cyclone on top of all this and yea there is entangling roots as well

Seriously, id really like to see what kind of retarded monkey came up with all those ideas.

I have even better idea lets fucking cut the crap here and give resto druids flying form usable in arena

#4509702 ironbark + barkskin roots

Posted Milaya on 29 September 2015 - 09:34 PM

Blizzard way to prune an ability and bring it back even more retarded.

#4509684 ironbark + barkskin roots

Posted Celinedijon on 29 September 2015 - 09:07 PM

Those roots make me wanna kill myself when I play my alt ww.

#4509648 ironbark + barkskin roots

Posted Ashleyirl on 29 September 2015 - 08:21 PM

does something need to be done about these two root effects?

i feel like these are just too strong vs a lot of dps, i know as a rogue i dont have an awful amount of room to complain about anything but it just seems silly that this is still a thing

wouldnt it be more constructive to make some other 4 set that is helpful to survival instead of such an annoying mechanic?

i cant be the only one that thinks this - and, if i am, i apologise