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#4392556 6.1 state of arena?

Posted Arteqt on 25 February 2015 - 03:12 PM

Guys atleast wait for a week to see how it goes lol.

Mages were considered "shit" in the first 2 weeks. Then they become "gods".

We finally have an alternative to R.Druid = Shaman

Hunters/Ferals/Mages had insane damage buffs.

I can't wait to see how all these changes add up.


#4392250 Dear Bailamos

Posted Kettu on 24 February 2015 - 09:15 PM

I am available




#4370801 Resto shaman stat priority?

Posted sarggiz on 25 January 2015 - 07:29 AM

master/versa>stam>multistrike>spirit>crit ;) really depend ur playstyle


#4391500 Are a lot of people quiting?

Posted Structural on 23 February 2015 - 04:02 AM

i just walk into ashran and all my friends appear, sure some maybe npcs and all but they're still friends


#4391482 Are a lot of people quiting?

Posted jam420 on 23 February 2015 - 03:07 AM

all this forum has done, and ever will do, is just whine about how crappy this game is atm

even in s8, which a lot of people consider as the ~best season ever~, y'all were on here whining about how much it sucks

when will you fucks realize this? complaining about wow being a bad game is so 2009

if you find wow boring, it's just not for you.

if you find wow unbalanced, it's probably just not for you, or you're being a cry baby. there are somethings rn (hey rmd) that kinda ruin fun, but otherwise? as a feral druid, hunter, and mistweaver, i've found that I can play many comps and have a pretty decent chance at winning.

sounds like fun to me

then again, i guess i'm not a warrior or mage or rogue whose class has been reduced to a bunch of wasd'ing 3 buttons. that would fucking suck t b h


#4391362 Are a lot of people quiting?

Posted Thaya on 22 February 2015 - 09:29 PM

nope, it's stable at 10mil+


#4390244 how come

Posted ROKMODE on 20 February 2015 - 07:06 AM

who needs reckful when you have s.e.l.f.i.e.s.


#4389788 resto druid op and easy

Posted Surel on 19 February 2015 - 02:53 AM

To "some" of the people commenting this thread:
I think people should stop throwing comments about the players skill level. If you stop and think before you post, you´d realize that the player is actually impressed with his performance and results playing a low-geared restoration druid. The rating he achieved is most likely satisfying for him when he compares it to his earlier performance on other classes, and thus drawing the conclusion that restoration druids are in fact overpowered, something that is already proven by both statistics of representation, and by described gaming experiences from most experienced and high-end arena players, if not all. However there is a possibility that the player is trolling, my conclusion is that he is not.

To the author: Ive seen worse cases, i even managed to achieve a higher MMR than your current rating on my restoration druid playing jungle cleave (Feral Druid, Survival Hunter, Restoration druid) with both me and the hunter playing with similar gear to yours. I guess this game being in a "total" shitstate will help me finish my last year at university, because i´m not to fond of arena for the time being.


#4386348 HOW THE NEXT PATCH SHOULD BE !! IDEAS for the DeVs

Posted Fizion on 13 February 2015 - 02:21 AM

You must have had a slow day at work/school.


#4383144 Unholy DK Research and Stat Facts

Posted Flakkar on 07 February 2015 - 03:07 PM

Hi everyone,

By popular demand, here is some research and math into unholy DKs that I whipped up. As with my Frost post, I may have missed some stuff or calculated something incorrectly. If that's the case please let me know so I can make changes. Thanks to everyone who submitted data, and you for reading!

TLDR: See my stat priority and gear suggestion at the bottom.

Special Notes:
(*) means I assume it's correct if not bugged but I didn't test it. I'll put this next to things I take for granted.
(**) means I actually tested this to prove that it is indeed this way. For brevity, I didn't outline how, but I can if requested.
(?) means I'm not sure, but if someone could test this somehow, it would be great

Let's start with seconday stat ratings and how much damage they contribute.

Rating points required for 1% increase (** tested this myself):
Haste 90
Crit 110
Multistrike(MS) 66
Mastery(MA) 44
Versatility(Vers) 130

Let's take a realistic but nice looking number of how much of each stat you could stack, say 1000 rating points.

For 1000 rating points you would get:
11.1% Haste
9.09% Crit
15.15% MS
22.73% MA
7.69% Vers
In addition, stats scale linearly. So adding 11.1% Haste when you have 40% has the same impact as adding it when you have 0%, assuming you don't hit a cap.

NOTE: Crit and MS are nerfed in PvP! This may be obvious to some, but a lot of people don't take this into account when calculating stat priorities! Each Crit does 150% damage instead of 200%, and there is only one chance at a 30% MS instead of two chances. This also applies to heals!

Taking the nerfs into account, let's do an average damage increase you would get from each stat if you stacked 1000 rating worth. I will not account for burstiness here, because getting a string of lucky crits of multistrikes can always happen, but it will even out in the end, and you don't want to rely on pure luck to win arena matches.

Haste (11.2% (given infinite uptime) DPS increase per 1000 rating points):
Haste is pretty good, and was recently buffed.
As Unholy, when sitting in Unholy presence, you get a 20% bonus to all Haste you equip. Furthermore, we have an additional 5% Haste added from Unholy Aura.
Therefore all haste you equip is getting multiplied by 1.20*1.05 = 1.26
This is not as much as frost gets, but it's still worth noting.

1000 Haste rating / 90 pts per % rating * 1.26% extra for Unholy DKs = 14% Haste
However, since 15-35% (let's say 20% on avg) of our damage is from Diseases, Haste is really only giving 14%*0.8 = 11.2% DPS increase.
  • 14% haste means 14% faster attack speed, which means 14% more auto-attack damage (**).
  • 14% haste also means 14% more Sudden Doom procs (**) due to increased attack speed.
  • 14% haste also means 14% faster rune regeneration (**), meaning that (for ex) over 100 seconds, a rune would fully cycle 11 times instead of 10 if you depleted it instantly every time it came back.
  • Haste increases Ghoul attack speed(**) and Gargoyle attack speed(**).
  • Haste means more runic power and more Sudden Doom procs, therefore more Deathcoils and thus lower cooldown on Dark Transformation.
  • Because of higher rune availability, Haste provides some utility letting you purge with Icy Touch (needed by Unholy since Frost gets free Rime procs), Death Strike more to keep yourself up, and Chains of Ice more often.
  • Unholy's DPS starts out rather slow due to the Frost and Blood runes which have to be converted to Death before they can be used to spam Scourge Strike. Haste will help with this, letting you cycle your runes into Death Runes faster.
  • Haste does NOT affect the GCD because it's already capped at 1 second (**).
  • Haste does NOT affect any of our diseases (**).
  • Haste does NOT affect Conversion, or Breath of Sindragosa (BoS), or any skill that says it ticks "every X seconds".
It's tempting to think that haste offers a 14% DPS increase, but there's a couple things to note.
  • Haste does not fully kick in immediately once you start attacking. At first you will get faster auto-attacks, so about 2.6-3 seconds after you attack, you will get a second auto-attack that will be sooner with more haste. But after that, it will take around 7 seconds for runes to start coming back due to higher haste.
  • Haste does not affect diseases. From my tests, as well as info others have submitted, diseases seem to compose anywhere from 15 to 35% of our damage, depending how many targets they are on. Necrotic plague especially tends to contribute a lot as Unholy.
  • Haste does not affect the GCD.
  • Haste does not affect Breath of Sindragosa while it's up, so it will not make it burst faster. However, it will make your runes come back faster, which might allow BoS to stay up longer (?) due to the extra runic power you will have.
  • Haste can at most affect the recharge of 3 runes simultaneously. If you don't have one rune of each type depleted, then Haste's contribution is being reduced. If you have 2 runes recharging, then you're getting 66.7% of Haste's effect. One rune is 33.3% etc.
  • For Unholy, Haste is already very high due to Unholy Presence. As a result, you will find yourself in more situations where you are sitting on 4+ runes and be unable to unload them into damage fast enough because Scourge Strike only consumes one rune at a time.
  • There is concern that there's such thing as too much haste. For Frost I showed this isn't really possible, but for Unholy it feels like there is such a threshold. As you get over 40% Haste, you will start to notice that you can't unload your runes fast enough and you sit on 4+ runes sometimes as you try and burst targets. This happens primarily because Unholy has to spam Scourge Strike to burst, but Scourge Strike only uses 1 rune, so it takes 6 GCDs to empty all your runes. Rune recharge time is less than 7 seconds, so you are almost in a situation where you cant spend the runes fast enough.
So to conclude: 1000 points of haste gives roughly 11.2% DPS increase (2.8% lost due to not affecting diseases) if you have infinite uptime. In reality, this isn't going to happen. As you get to very high numbers of Haste, you will be unable to dump runes fast enough and will therefore lose part of Haste's benefit. Frost did not have this problem because Oblit uses 2 runes at a time, but for Unholy it takes forever to unload runes.

Crit (4.54% DPS increase per 1000 rating points):
Crit is the worst stat for Unholy, just as it was the worst stat for Frost, but this time it's because MS is slightly better for Unholy.
1000 rating / 110 rating per % = 9.09 Crit chance for 1000 rating.
So we are adding a 9.09% chance to do 50% additional damage, meaning on every attack that can crit we are adding 4.545% damage.
  • Diseases can Crit! Actually all damage a DK does can Crit! (*)
  • That's it...Crit doesn't have any other perks.
Multistrike (~6.54% DPS increase per 1000 rating points):
As Blizzard themselves have said, Crit and MS are equal, even in PvP.
1000 rating / 66 rating per % = 15.15% MS chance for 1000 rating.
So we are adding an 15.15% chance to do 30% additional damage, so by simple math: 15.15% * 30% = 4.545% damage increase.

However, because of the Necrosis passive, MS does a little more. Much to my dismay, even though Necrosis says you get 5% more MS from all sources, it doesn't work(**). I think that part of the passive is bugged and I have reported it. Still, there is a small buff in the form of some shadow damage whenever you MS using some rune-consuming abilities.

The contribution of Necrosis is a pain to calculate, but from the data I have collected and received from others, it amounts to at most 2% damage increase when you have ~15% MS. This means that we can add 2% to our 4.54% and get 6.54% DPS increase best case.
As you will see in the stat priorities, the actual number doesn't matter, it's just to show that MS is better than Crit.
  • Every attack can MS, including diseases. I am not sure if Death Strike healing can MS (?), but I am sure that Conversion cannot(**).
  • Multistrikes can crit!
  • Necrosis adds a small amount of shadow damage whenever you get an MS off some rune-consuming abilities like Scourge Strike, Reaper, Festering Strike, Plague Strike.
  • I see some sites saying MS is the best stat, but I just don't see it in the math; far from it in fact. Maybe they are forgetting it only procs once in PvP?
Mastery (~12.5% DPS increase per 1000 rating points):
Everyone probably madly scrolled down here to see if the previous predictions were correct. Well worry not, they are!
1000 rating / 44 rating per % = 22.73% Mastery for 1000 rating.
  • This means 22.73% increased Shadow/Plague/Shadowfrost damage (**). But how much of our damage is this actually?
  • According to my tests, I get between 50-60% Shadow damage (when doing regular dps).
  • So therefore 22.73% * 55% = ~12.5% damage increase per 1000 Mastery. This easily beats all the other stats in terms of raw damage.
  • Mastery increases Scourge Strike, Death Coil, Necrotic Plague, and Gargoyle damage. Basically all your best burst is increased by Mastery.
Versatility (7.69% DPS increase per 1000 rating points):
This is the easiest one to calculate. This is a great stat because it offers healing and defense bonuses.
1000 rating / 130 rating per % = 7.69% Versatility for 1000 rating.
  • 7.69% Versatility means 7.69% more damage across the board on all damage DKs do (*).
  • 7.69% Versatility means 7.69% more healing on Deathstrike, and other heals that are not %life based. Versatility does not increase Conversion healing!(**) Death Pact (?)
  • 7.69% Versatility also means 3.85% less damage taken from all sources (*).
Some ugly facts I found while testing:
  • The 5% bonus to MS supposedly given by Necrosis doesn't work.
  • The PvP target dummy at the Glad Sanctum takes double damage from crits instead of 50% more - probably a bug. Multistrikes are also causing 2 strikes instead of 1.
Strength:
I didn't test anything for Strength, but it almost never overlaps with secondary stats, so not much to discuss here. Even if it does, Str gets so many insane %-based bonuses from DK passives and procs that it easily outdoes the other stats (*).

Putting it all together:
  • All the numbers are for 1000 rating in isolation. Some may wonder if it changes when you throw all the stats together and in different amounts. I would say that in most cases it does not because stats do not interact in any way that provides a faster or slower damage increase than each stat would on its own.
  • Strengh is most likely the best stat in all cases, unless someone can prove otherwise.
  • Mastery is easily the best secondary stat. It affects all our best burst, all the time.
  • Given that Mastery is the best stat by a long shot, and that many PvP items come in a MA/something flavor, gearing basically comes down to choosing all the MA items (but making sure to get the 4pc bonus). So the rest of the stat prio is somewhat irrelevant.
  • Haste and Versatility are both really good. For Unholy however, I would take Vers because Haste is already super high and you will likely be wasting its effects because Unholy often sits on several runes while trying to dump Scourge Strikes.
  • Crit is the worst from the numbers.
  • MS is interesting due to Necrosis, but because it only adds damage if the MS came from a limited set of rune abilities, its overall DPS contribution is very low. Many people expected MS to be higher up I think, but the PvP nerfs are just too much and Necrosis doesn't trigger from enough sources to make up for it.
  • If we compare MS and Vers, the damage numbers are close, but Vers has the damage reduction advantage, and has no RNG component so it will perform better overall.
Stat Priority:
So the stat prio in my opinion is ('>>' means much better):
Str >> MA >> Vers > Haste > MS >> Crit

Gear Selection:
Here is my best attempt at putting together a gearset that satisfies the above. I would take the 4pc set bonus here, even though you sacrifice some stats. The 4pc bonus is basically another trinket on a 45-60 sec cooldown depending on how often you can Death Coil, so it's just too good to pass up.

NOTE: Some Vers pieces require Revered with the Ashran faction. This might seem annoying, but it's actually extremely easy. Go to Ashran, but don't group into a raid. Run solo, and loot as many enemy corpses as possible. Occasionally you will get a blue item that you can hand in at your home base for 2750 rep. I got to revered in 1 hour doing this.

Helm: MA/Crit Set Piece
Chest: MA/Vers
Shoulders: MS/MA Set Piece
Gloves: Crit/Haste Set Piece
Legs: MA/Haste Set Piece

Boots: MA/MS
Belt: MA/Vers
Bracer: MA/Haste
Neck: MA/Crit
Cloak: MA/Haste
Ring1: MA/Crit
Ring2: MS/Haste. Legendary ring doesn't proc in arenas or rbgs.
Trinket1: Vers with proc Str
Trinket2: Str with on use Vers (Don't get the Mastery trinket because Str is better)
Enchants: Mastery

Final projected bonuses:
+5.8% MS
+43.6% MA
+3.2% Vers
+6.9% Crit
+9.7% Haste


#4071245 [WOD] Rhee's Resto Shaman Guide!

Posted Rhee on 04 March 2014 - 06:17 PM

Rhee’s WoD Resto Shaman Guide (6.02)

Hi there! I’m Rhee the shaman, and while I’m pretty new to the PvP scene of WoW, I believe I have found success in the shaman perspective of arena combat, allowing me to have ethos for a guide!

My first ever arena season was Malevolent season, where I played a hunter to around 2200 rating. Watching popular shaman streams like Flubbah, Kollektiv, and Cdew inspired me to play one!

My first season as a shaman was Tyrannical, where I found some success – achieving 2400+ rating as shatterplay – but I had to AFK mid-season, which resulted in an absence of any titles. First full season was Grievous, where I achieved R1 playing numerous comps, and I was very privileged to play with many talented players to get to this level.

Some people have been saying Shamans are terrible in 6.02 but after playing some games I have to say shamans still feel fine!

You are susceptible to cleaves as always, and I have found the best comps to include a hybrid. Boomkins, Ferals, Ret Paladins are your best friends.


-Talents-
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This is pretty much the “Cookie Cutter” talent build to be an effective shaman. With the exception of the level 30 45, and 60 talent choices.

I’ll provide a rule of thumb, where you can swap out the “Cookie Cutter” talent for the marked ones above, and explain why.

Use Earthgrab Totem VS Rogues, or Warriors, or Monks, or DKs (Who are NOT paired with a Mage)

Ex) Monk / Spriest / Shaman

  Ex) Rogue / Warlock / Shaman

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Why?
When used effectively, Earthgrab totem can save your life when the enemy players attempt to make a swap on you.
It disrupts the melee from making contact with you, buying you precious time to react appropriately. And it also disrupts the enemy team’s offensive cool down coordination. While the caster can still hurt you with his cool downs, the melee will have to suffer delay on his cool downs.

Tips:
Against rogue / warlock or shadow priest teams, you can drop this totem when the rogue attempts to make a swap to you with a vanish or a step + shadow dance combo. It pulses, so dropping it when you know that the rogue is running at you with vanish up will root him in stealth when he gets near you, hopefully wasting his dance or shadow blades uptime.
Against warrior or monks + caster teams, it’s a lot easier to make use of this totem as you can visually see the swaps. Simply drop it when the monk or warrior gets near you and ghost wolf away!

!!
I NEVER swap out Windwalk Totem verse any mage compositions because the freedom aura is simply too good for defensive and offensive reasons. Even against Rogue + Mage, I suggest you use Windwalk even though Earthgrab is extremely potent against Rogues.

Totemic Projection
This level 45 talent is really up to you. I personally never spec into it because my logic stands that double healing stream, grounding, tremor, freedom, and earthbind are just too good to give up.
However, when used effectively it can help your team out tremendously as you have absolute control of your totems.
If your team can use more CC, “throwing” Capacitor Totems can help your team out in that aspect.
Most shamans do not go this route, but Burbery, who is an extremely successful shaman always specs this, and is really known for this play style, so don’t be scared to try it out and adopt it.

Echo of the Elements
I have been playing with this level 60 talent quite a bit, and I have to say it has its uses against certain warlock/boomkin comps. Whenever you use a spell, you have a chance to proc Echo, which grants you double dispell or riptide or unleash. This talent paired with Glyph of Cleansing Waters will do wonders against a UA Lock when you will be able to constantly keep your team clean of dots. I could see this being extremely potent something like LSD2, but I wouldn't use it against a team with capable burst since you do sacrifice NS. You should keep NS for most caster/melee comps, and only go to Echo against wizard cleaves you feel comfortable enough to heal without NS.

Storm Elemental Totem
I really dislike our 100 talent.. But what am I gonna do right? I've seen shamans spec this but I dont find much use for it because you are going to need to drop other important air totems like Grounding/Capacitor that are on short cooldowns, limiting this totem's potential uptime and efficiency. You should play around with it though.

Cloud Burst totem has some uses but it isn't that strong. You can use it before openers and any time your healing stream or healing tide is on cool down. Stacking this shit with Ascendance is actually decent healing.

-Glyphs-

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They edited our 4-piece so that it doesn't give us aura mastery from Spiritwalker's Grace anymore, so you will need to pick up Glyph of SG all the time.

Glyph of Ghost Wolf: Basically allows you to kite well when enemies target you. Shamans get targeted a lot, and this glyph is a must have when it comes to kiting and surviving.

!I will rarely switch this glyph out. But you can against certain double caster teams if you feel comfortable enough to survive without it. Something like Warlock/Boomkin, or Shadow Priest Warlock, etc. Especially if you have a another source of freedom from your team you can swap this glyph out for something more useful.

Situational Glyphs

Glyph of Healing Stream Totem: Even though they nerfed healing stream the 5% protection from certain schools of spells is still useful for fighting against frost mages or DKs. Healing Stream has decent up-time and is on a relatively short cool down so this glyph is still potent.

Glyph of Capacitor Totem: Great glyph to use to buy you time to recover since shamans are still really squishy in WOD. This glyph makes it so Capacitors are super easy to land.. I try to take advantage of teams stacking with this glyph as that triple stun will win you a game (seriously).

Tip: This glyph with Earthgrab Totem is a secret weapon of mine when it comes to dealing with melee + caster comps that will try constantly to make a deadly swap to you.
Ex) Against Rogue / Warlock, drop Earthgrab Totem first for the root when the rogue connects with you, step forward a bit, then drop Capacitor Totem so the rogue is not in range to kill it. Watch him get helplessly stunned and then smile since you lived!

Glyph of Cleansing Waters: Great glyph to use against DoT cleaves such as Boomkin / Warlock / Healer, or Ele Shaman / Warlock / Healer. Even greater when used with the talent "Echo of the Elements" as you will have 2 dispells, increasing the effectiveness and efficiency of this glyph.

Glyph of Hex: Okay glyph to use when the other team does not have a de-curse for your hex, or if your team is lacking CC. I don’t use this glyph that much because usually I will be occupied enough to have Hex back off cooldown when I really need it. But it can be extremely effective if your partner’s CC is roughly on the same cool down as Hex with this glyph.

-Stats-

I haven't really played around with stats since in WoD your stats are fixed in a sense that reforging doesn't exist. However you can still prioritize stats by buying certain off-pieces or dropping a 5th set-piece for a piece that gives better stats (since you only need 4 pieces of the set to get the bonus).

#1 Mastery: Mastery seems amazing in WoD. Mastery paired with crit enables you to top your partners off no problem when you do have to cast. This is because mastery allows your heals to be more potent when your partners are lower on HP. This paired with crit will make your casted heals amazing.

#2 Crit: Crit rating scales extremely well with shamans because our heals are amazing when they crit. Since we actually have to cast now (with the nerf to passive healing via totems) crit rating is a big factor.

#3 Versatility: Versatility seems to be our next best stat since it increases your healing done, and decreases your damage taken. Perfect for squishy blues!

GEAR

You should get the 4-piece and buy the chest piece that isn't part of the 5-piece set. The chest piece that is part of the 5 set gives poor stats, meanwhile the off-set chest piece provides you with mastery & crit.

For enchants, go full mastery.

TRINKET

I've tested both PvP trinkets (one used to get out of CC), one which provides spirit and one which provides crit rating.

I have to say that I like the spirit one because it helps with mana management. Since we don't have mana-tide totem anymore, you have to be some what cautious of burning mana.

For our second trinket slot, I would go with the on-use trinket which passively gives mastery and gives versatility on-use. Battlemaster Trinkets have been nerfed where the HP gain is minimal, and the extra mastery really does help.


-How to be an effective Resto Shaman-

Shamans are great when it comes to keeping their team-mates up with potent healing and support. Our toolkit, mainly Wind Shear, Grounding Totem, Windwalk Totem, and Tremor Totem allow our partners to stay out of CC and sustain offensive pressure by disrupting the enemy team.

However, Shamans are weak when it comes to survival and you will always be the weakest link of your comp. Shamans are pretty much susceptible to death in any given moment to any given comp. Therefore, you will need to build the skillset of surviving on top of having effective grounding totems, shears, and the like.

Rule #1: Always pretend you are in trouble.
- As I’ve stated before, we are susceptible to death at literally any given moment because we have no defensives while stunned or silenced.
- Learning to be defensively aware should be your top priority.
- Get in the habit of keeping a mental timer on enemy stuns and silences.
- Get in the habit of constantly checking enemy positioning vs yours. As you get more experience you will able to tell easily when the enemy wants to push up for a swap if you position yourself adequately.


Rule #2: Learn to be preemptive
- Our major defensive cool downs require us having to trinket, so learning not to trinket by being preemptive will substantially increase your chances of survival.
- Practice swapping Earth Shield + Riptide before you get swapped to. It can be hard at first, but trust me even the smallest things like this can go a long way for your survival.
- Practice dropping totems preemptively before the enemy team swaps on you. A fresh healing stream will do wonders before a swap lands, and a healing tide will be even better too.

Rule #3: Don’t panic
- Once you get the hang of managing your defensives and get used to the overall damage of arena, the panic will go away when scary swaps come, but I feel like this is often so easily overlooked when I watch other aspiring shamans.
- If you don’t panic, and look at exactly the offensive cool downs of the other team, you won’t waste unnecessary defensives, and therefore increase your time of survival.
- Using your trinket inefficiently and in panic will most likely lead to a loss.

Rule #4: Have a strong presence
-  Opposed to other healers like Resto druids, Hpals, or even Monks, Resto Shamans lack CC as our Hex is on a fairly long cooldown.
-  Effective healers (druids, hpals, monks) abuse their ability to CC and definitely pronounce their presence in the arena.
-  Mediocre shamans have a defensive mindset because they think our class lack the tools to have a strong presence. Top tier shamans use everything to their advantage (shocks, shear, hex) to disrupt the enemy team and declare their presence.
-  Don't waste your hex. Try to look for certain situations so that your hex actually does something meaningful and affect the outcome of the game. An example is to look for hexes on the off-target when the enemy player able to decurse is stuck in a minor CC, even something like a DR stun. Its great to hex an enemy mage's partner especially if he is being heavly pressured because it uses the mage's global. You can also hex to stop important casts when your wind shear is on CD. Hexing a enemy healer when he is low is EXTREMELY potent and not used often. The damage threshold to break a Hex is actually pretty high.
- Look for situations to land a capacitor stun. I always look for a situation to land a triple capacitor if the enemy team is stacking up defensively.


Our Defensives (Listed with importance)

!There is something wrong with our Healing-Tide totem or Healing Stream, as both ticks for relatively the same amount in full pvp gear (around 6.17k per tick). As of right now Healing-Tide is your worst cool-down, so don't be afraid to just use it when you are behind on healing and your healing-stream is on cooldown. Hopefully we see a fix for this soon.

Spirit Link Totem
PvP Trinket
Ascendance / Aura Mastery
NS or Ancestral Swiftness
Healing Tide

The idea here is to generally use certain defensives first before using the others as each provides higher percentage of survival. With the exception of healing stream of course as you should be using it almost off-cooldown. Its up there due to its potency as a passive healing source.

So, you should look to use NS frequently when the enemy team has ways to interrupt your cast or when your teammate is hovering around 30~50% for a quick heal. Always look to Unleash Elements into a NS Greater Healing Wave, as NS without Unleash won't heal for anything.

Tip: Against teams that are not spread pressure, but rather single target killers, you can use Ascendance before you NS for the extra heal to guarantee that they will most likely be topped off.

Tip: Against teams with obvious patterned CC like Hunter / Melee / X, you can Ascendance before you get put into a scatter shot, and the healing bonus will be applied to HoTs you have active on your partners. Sometimes against hunters I'll just pop ascendance before I know I will get Scatter Shot and throw an unleash riptide on my partner, and they will have a huge HoT when I'm CCd.

Tip: It is FINE to Unleash Elements + Riptide! Its extremely effective when you need a quick heal before you know you will be CCd because it can crit for decent healing, and provide that big HoT. Its super effective verse spread pressure teams, and I believe its one of the most underrated spell combos shamans can do.

Always try to preserve your PvP trinket by coordinating partner cool downs first as the absence of your trinket just makes you a juicy target for 2 whole minutes. I generally like to hold my PvP trinket until I have to Spirit Link, but of course it all depends on the situation.

The general rule of thumb is that when you use your PvP trinket, use a defensive following right after it.
Some examples are:
Trinket -> Spirit Link Totem
Trinket -> Healing Tide
Trinket -> Aura Mastery w/ Ascendance


-Useful tips-

Tremor/Avoiding Fear Tips

!!WoD has reworked Tremor Totem (I actually kind of like this change). You can't tremor DURING a fear. So now you have to "pre-tremor" Warrior fears, Warlock fears, and Priest fears. These classes will try to mind-game you but you should be able to sense when the fear is needed depending on the situation of the game. Obviously just drop tremor if your team is behind and you see the Warlock running at you.

1) Always remember that its better to waste a tremor (being faked to drop it) than trying to not be faked and being full feared. Dont risk it!

2) Against a warlock, its sometimes good to drop tremor offensively so the warlock can't peel his or her teammates. Be cautious though, only do this when you know the kill is secured.

3) Always watch positioning of fear classes, and react to them. Frost shock them, drop earthbind totem, tell your partners to make their lives hell in trying to reach you for a fear. This awareness and reactiveness will help you not waste a tremor, and actually use one effectively.

Grounding Tips

Grounding Totem is your best friend when it comes to survival. Spam grounding totem when you are stuck in a stun like deep freeze in an attempt to ground the silence effect that is always followed up.

1) !!:With WoD changes, there are more spells that you can Ground since categorizations have been simplified. One example is that you can ground Binding Shot.

2) !!: Grounding Totem will only ground magical effects like Counterspell, Spell Lock, and Silence. Won't work for a rogue garrote. You can also spam Aura Mastery during your stun so that when the effect expires you can immune the silence effect.

3) !!: In certain situations, you can use grounding totem as a cover from magical interrupts to get a cast off. Do this when in a do-or-die situation (when you obviously don't have aura-mastery). Just drop grounding and cast, and hopefully you can ground windshear or a CS.

4) The biggest tip I can give with grounding totem is that it is on a very short cooldown relative to its potency. Take the risk and drop grounding totem when you "feel" a spell incoming. Don't ever be scared to drop grounding totem.

Surviving Tips

If you play a shaman, you will get trained, and you will sometimes fall over. However you can prolong the game by surviving, which enables your team to have more of a chance to secure a kill.

MELEE CLEAVES (Warriors, Ferals, Combat Rogues, and other foul creatures)

1) Glyph of Ghost Wolf, Glyph of Spirit Walker's Grace ALWAYS.
   - Glyph of Capacitor Totem is used most of the time, but I don't go this route IF my team already    has a lot of stuns / double stuns.
   - Glyph of Grounding Totem is used against Ferals or Ret Paladins, IF you have enough stuns. You can reflect Hammer of Justice, or Cyclones, giving you precious time to top yourself off.
   - Glyph of Healing Stream Totem for DKs if you have enough stuns.

2) EVERY GLOBAL COUNTS  

Trying to juke two melee is one of the most time consuming and risky maneuvers to do. This is because your instant healing will always be lower than the damage the two melee is putting out. This is why every global needs to be spent wisely.

- In between fake casts, refresh Earth Shield & Riptide.

- In between fake casts, don't be scared to unleash + Riptide. (Do it moderately high health)

- Whenever the two melee are caught in the tiniest CC, you need to EITHER create space or cast.

- Creating Space means dropping earthbind totem + freedom totem + unleashing (bonus speed) + ghost wolfing around the pillar or across the entire map if the CC on the melee is long enough. You do this if you are moderately high HP, and if the two are stuck in long CC with no outs.

- Cast when you are low as hell, and the two are caught in CC long enough for your healing surge to be casted. YOU NEED TO BE AWARE of the CC duration on the two melee so you dont waste precious time trying to make space (stepping forward), or unleashing (wasting a global second), then casting, at which point the melee will be out of CC and kick you.

3) Things to do when locked out

- Create space. Jumping off is actually good, it buys you a bit of time to take less damage.

- Prep your totems.

- Use versatility on-use trinket. (Take less damage)

- Use racial.

- Use Ascendance. This is so damn good to do if you need to use the cooldown. Ascendance wastes a global, and if you want to Ascendance + NS to get topped, this is a useful thing to do when locked out.

4) Cooldown Usage

- NS is your strongest cooldown against a melee cleave, this is because it is so damn difficult to cast with two of them sitting on you. I would say NS is bigger than link because most of the time the melee can kill SLTotem extremely fast (since they are right on you), and can damage through the cooldown as well.

- Spirit Walker's Grace is a potent cooldown as well, but you need to be extremely aware of what skills the two melee have used. You need to make sure stuns (shockwave, feral bash/stuns, kidney) are out of the way, as well as CC that can interrupt your SWC (Blind, Warrior Fear).

- The general idea is to counter their offensive cooldowns with your own. But you need to make sure not to overuse cooldowns as a melee cleave can kill you when both of their kicks are up.

- I generally counter immense offensive cooldowns (Reck, Incarnation, Killing Spree, Wings) with an Ascendance + NS, then move on to use SWC effectively.

- Unless you have a ret paladin as your team mate, you have to trinket the stun where the melee cleave pops major offensive cool-downs, UNLESS your teammates assure peels.

- In between rotating your cooldowns effectively, you need to rotate the cooldowns your teammates offer you as well. This includes something like Hunter's Roar of Sacrifice, Ret's Sac or BoP, and etc.

- You CAN'T stack defensives needlessly, and the basic idea is to have some form of defensive from either you or your team for every enemy offensive cooldown.

5) POSITIONING

You have to take advantage of the fact that the two melees are tunnel-visioning in killing you. PUT THEM IN A BAD SPOT.

- Drag them back behind a pillar, which will  
  A ) Force the enemy healer into a bad spot for easy control, or a potential kill target.
  B ) Limit healing received to both melees, making them take more damage, and back-off.

- Keep rotating between pillars across the map so that they are consistently forced to be in a bad spot. When the melee has no trinket, and you manage to land a stun on it behind a pillar, it will die.

- Kite across the map with Ghost Wolf + Unleash+ Freedom Totem.


MELEE + CASTER Teams (Rogue/Warlock, Feral/Warlock, Rogue/Mage, etc.)

1) For your third glyph, use Cleansing Waters vs Warlocks, Healing Stream vs Mages  


2) ANTICIPATE THE SWAP.

- As the game progresses, you will feel the enemy team trying to pull you out to the open as you are always a viable kill target. Swaps are often times very obvious with the enemy team physically pushing in and CCing your teammates. Swaps are oriented around offensive cooldowns so keep a mental timer on the melee's offensive cooldowns as most swaps are coordinated with them.

- Be ready to quickly swap Earthshield, and always keep a riptide on yourself as these two hots will help in keeping you alive.

- You need to practice preemptively (before being stunned) dropping Capacitor Totems, and Healing Stream/Tide as these totems will require the melee to swap off for a second to kill them, buying you time to not take damage in the stun.

3) Against Melee + Caster Teams you need to make sure to coordinate your team's defensives prioritizing your security.

- This means to not waste YOUR cooldowns on your teammates unless its really needed, or vice-versa.

- This bascially means to let your teammates use their defensives first before you use trinket or a major defensive like Spirit Link Totem to save your teammates.

4) KEEP YOUR TEAMMATES OUT OF CC

Before you get swapped to, you need to shear, drop grounding, or drop tremor totem so that your partners can help you.

- The enemy team will eventually get your teammates' trinkets, especially if they have spammable CC. You need to drop totems and keep your teammates out of CC before being stunned or silenced.

- If you failed to preemptively stop CC, use your pvp trinket and get them out. You will be surprised what your team mates can do for you. Prioritize dispelling the teammate with either more control or defensives for you.


DOUBLE CASTER TEAMS (Wizard Cleaves)

Probably the easiest comps to play against and survive against since our tool-kit is designed to annoy wizards.

With the change to tremor totem, most wizard cleaves won't even target you for a kill, but attempt to put you in a bad spot for control

Something like God Comp can take advantage of the new Tremor Totem since they can chain CC us when we are feared into a terrible spot.

1) AVOID FEAR.

Easier said than done, but fear is the start of infinite CC because it will often put you out of positioning.

Shamans weren't scared of fear before since we could tremor to break fear and just wind shear or ground the follow up CC.

- Against Shadow Priests, when you know fear is coming up, adjust your positioning, as well as your team's positioning so the priest doesnt get a "free" fear. If you see a priest darting at you, then guising, tell your team to pull back.

- Make the the Priest's life hell by creating space between, snaring the priest with Frost Shock and Earth Bind, as well as other snares/slows from your team.

- Always let your team know if you don't have tremor so they can play and position accordingly.

2) DONT SHEAR or GROUND RANDOM SHIT.

Unless you know you are going to secure a kill, don't Wind Shear random shit just because your mind/reaction wants you to.

- Shear CC; Try not to shear casted damage, or casted heals. (Unless its for the secured kill or you have grounding)

- Even if you have some offensive momentum going, shearing a heal opens up opportunities for the casters to CC. Even if you have Grounding Totem, it is super easy to get rid of because casters have numerous abilities, and Grounding Totem won't stop two CCs targeted at you.

3) ABUSE PILLAR.

Abusing a pillar means to hide behind a pillar so that the casters can't CC you, and only poking out to heal or purge.

- Abusing a pillar enables you to save wind shear/grounding since you can just side step to be out of Line of Sight.

- Abusing a pillar makes it harder for them to swap to you.

- Abusing a pillar sometimes forces the casters to push in to CC, putting them in a bad spot, dragging the enemy healer out for more control.


GENERAL TIPs

1) Memorize the totem placement pattern.

Fire totems don’t matter, but be wary that your Earth Totems drop on your front-right, your Air Totems drop on your bottom-left, and that your Water Totems drop on your bottom-right.
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Learn to hide your healing streams behind pillars as decent players will always look to kill them. So just position yourself so that the pillar is behind you to the right and drop a healing stream, which will hide it from enemy LoS. Healing streams work through walls and z-axis too.
- On a map like Blade's Edge with z-axis, you can drop your healing stream or healing tide underneath the bridge to protect it from being killed and it will heal your partners up top.

Since you know that your Tremor Totem (an Earth Totem), will drop on your front-right, make sure to position yourself to get your partners out of fears or wyvern stings since the range on Tremor is only 30 yards. I’ve seen many shamans “miss” their tremors because its not in range, and weren’t aware of the totem’s position.

Same with your healing stream, you can hide your Grounding Totem against hunter teams to protect yourself for 20 seconds from getting trapped. Same logic, hide it behind a pillar so that you are the only one getting protected from the grounding aura, while your partners are pushed up.

Last but not least. Now you know that your Spirit Link Totem will drop on your bottom left, you can “aim” Spirit Link to make sure your partners will get the health distribution.
Ex) Your partner is a bit far from you, and requires spirit link to survive. You run towards him, and you can jump, and rotate your camera around, and strafe in the air so that your left backside is facing your partner to guarantee the Spirit Link to “hit” your partner. This will allow you to link faster since you won’t have to run to him as much. I essentially call this “throwing your link”.

2) Totem Prepping

If you need to prep your totems for another tremor, make sure to just use and drop all your active totems like earthbind, freedom, grounding, healing stream, and even capacitor. Wasting any of the above is a big no-no. Sometimes I land random Capacitors with this strategy.

3) Rogues

Against a rogue, never trinket the first stun unless you want to spirit link, or if you are at the stage of the game where your defensives are limited or you are likely to die. The idea is to trinket the DR stun and then use your aura-mastery to immune the garrote. Be wary though, rogues will triple DR stun you for a kill.

A rogue will always try to gouge your aura-mastery heals. Just pop it, and run the direction the rogue is facing, also spin your camera around like a maniac if you think he is going to sprint or step gouge.

Be aware that rogues WILL use Blind to stop your aura-mastery heals.

Drop your fire-elemental totem early vs. a rogue to keep you in combat, and thus protect you from saps.

4) Healing Stream Totem

Don't waste healing-stream by just dropping it off-cooldown. Its best to try to drop it before the next CC lands on you so your partners have the stream to heal them while you are CCd. Same logic goes for Healing Tide. I always try to healing stream or tide (based on enemy offensives used) before I get stuck in a long CC chain, so against a hunter I will try to drop these before he even lands the scatter shot, which will be followed up by another stun or a freezing trap, into a silence.

Hide your Healing Stream Totems behind pillars to stop them from being destroyed.

5) Toolkit

SHOCK!!! and I mean it. Frost Shock slows enemy players, and Flame Shock can be used for reflects, and dark sims. This is probably the most distinguishing characteristic between a successful shaman and a decent one.

PURGE!!!! Learn to have a habit of constantly purging. It will improve you tremendously as a resto shaman. Keeping a mage “clean” of buffs will allow you to sometimes instantly purge NS or offensive buffs. But learn to be mana-efficient with it as well, purging is high mana-cost.

**Purge will get rid of enemy shaman’s grounding totem or any other similar effects.

6) MISC

Wind shear will “eat” the reflect effect of warriors, but its better to flame shock so that your shear can be used for a cast instead.

If you shear a mage on a polymorph cast, just hex his ass (mage can’t use Counsterspell if you lock them out on poly) if your hex isn’t that crucial to your team’s CC. Often times, mages will just cast a ring of frost after the lockout and you can’t do anything about it. So hexing to stop a cast is extremely good.

Try to fake Counterspell from casters with a casted hex instead of heals. I found that in my experience casters tend to respond with CS for hex rather than a heal.

If your PvP trinket is on cooldown, and the enemy is obviously trying to kill you soon, and your teammates are out of utility, it doesn’t hurt to be “clutch” as it will most likely pay off.  Try to preemptively spirit link, healing tide, healing stream, tremor to increase your chance at survival because once that stun lands you are most likely dead anyway.


-Macros-

Some macros that I believe are essential as a resto shaman.
Replace the 1 with 2 and 3 for arena 1~3 macros that will aid you.

#showtooltip wind shear
/stopcasting
/stopcasting
/cast [nomod, target=arena1] wind shear
/cast [mod:ctrl,target=arena1] hex
/cast [mod:alt,target=arena1] frost shock
- Doesn’t have to be this format exactly, but just have your wind shear, hex, and shock for arena 1~3 bound.


#showtooltip Cobo Cola
/click TotemFrameTotem2 RightButton
/use Cobo Cola
- Destroys your fire elemental totem to go for drinks

#showtooltip
/stopcasting
/cast [@arena1] Flame Shock


#showtooltip
/stopcasting
/cast Grounding Totem

#showtooltip
/stopcasting
/cast [@arena1] Flame Shock


#showtooltip riptide
/stopcasting
/cast [nomod] riptide
/cast [mod:ctrl, @player] riptide
- I have self riptide bound so that I don’t have to waste time swapping targets to pre-hot myself before a potential swap.

#showtooltip Water Shield
/cast [nomod] Earth Shield
/cast [mod:shift] Water Shield
/cast [mod:ctrl, @player] Earth Shield
- Same concept as above for earth shield.

#showtooltip Ancestral Swiftness
/stopcasting
/stopcasting
/cast ancestral swiftness
/cast blood fury
/cast greater healing wave
/p NS!


/script function CompactUnitFrame_UtilShouldDisplayBuff(a,b,c)local _,_,_,_,_,d,_,e,_,f,_,g=UnitBuff(a,b,c)if UnitAffectingCombat("player") then return (e=="player" or e=="pet") and not f and d > 0 and g; else return g end end
END
- The above script shows your water shield on default raid party frames.

UI

I feel like many beginners tend to clutter their user interface with a lot of information because they are not comfortable with their level of awareness yet. However I strongly recommend keeping it as simple as possible. Using addons is fine to start off, but don't go overboard with it and start with one at a time to get used to them.

Try to keep your field of vision clear so that you can start to be aware of enemy positioning as well as yours and your teammates'.

This is my UI, inspired from Kollektiv's that grants me good field of vision, focus buffs / debuffs, targets buffs / debuffs, my totem frames, and arena 1~3 cast bars.

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Conclusion

I hope you have enjoyed the guide, and if you have any questions don’t hesitate to message me in-game Rheey-Tichondrius, I’m always willing to help out or message me on twitch at username Rhee1.

Resto shamans are a great class once you get used to its weak points, and is definitely one of the most constantly effective and potent healers in 3v3 arena.

I don’t stream unfortunately, but you should check out these streams for high level shaman content that you could learn a lot from. Practice and watching streams is how I progressed pretty fast too.

Cdew – twitch.tv/cdewx
Flubbah – twitch.tv/flubbah
Takenotezz – twitch.tv/jakenotezz
Eeluminati – twitch.tv/eeluminati
Kaska – twitch.tv/kaskatv

These guys seriously rock, and studying their globals, and trying to adopt them into your play style or imitating them will seriously improve your level of play in no time.


#4378496 Things that are secretly OP

Posted Okayenhance on 01 February 2015 - 11:08 PM

Waterwalking lets you walk on water. Wtf?


#4319163 Frost DK Research and Stat Facts

Posted Flakkar on 26 December 2014 - 10:05 PM

Hi everyone,

I've been trying to figure out the optimal way to gear my 2h Frost DK (I tried DW and it seems worse), but I've found so much misinformation online that I decided to do some in-depth research and testing. I will outline what I found here, and the conclusions I am drawing. Check it out and let me know if I missed something, or tested something incorrectly. I will keep this updated with corrections as much as I can. Thanks for reading!

TLDR: See my stat priority and gear suggestion at the bottom.

Change History:
Jan 13, 2015 - Haste rating effect buffed by 11.1%, Icy Talons buffed to 20% haste, up from 5%. Note that tooltips in the game are not updated yet (possibly requires a client patch), but I can confirm the changes are live due to seeing them on my stat sheet. See edits in green throughout the post.

Special Notes:
(*) means I assume it's correct if not bugged but I didn't test it. I'll put this next to things I take for granted.
(**) means I actually tested this to prove that it is indeed this way. For brevity, I didn't outline how, but I can if requested.
(?) means I'm not sure, but if someone could test this somehow, it would be great

Let's start with seconday stat ratings and how much damage they contribute.

Rating points required for 1% increase (** tested this myself):
Haste 100 90
Crit 110
Multistrike(MS) 66
Mastery(MA) 55
Versatility(Vers) 130

Let's take a realistic but nice looking number of how much of each stat you could stack, say 1000 rating points.

For 1000 rating points you would get:
10.0% 11.1% Haste
9.09% Crit
15.15% MS
18.18% MA
7.69% Vers
In addition, stats scale linearly. So adding 11.1% Haste when you have 40% has the same impact as adding it when you have 0%, assuming you don't hit a cap.

NOTE: Crit and MS are nerfed in PvP! This may be obvious to some, but a lot of people don't take this into account when calculating stat priorities! Each Crit does 150% damage instead of 200%, and there is only one chance at a 30% MS instead of two chances. This also applies to heals!

Taking the nerfs into account, let's do an average damage increase you would get from each stat if you stacked 1000 rating worth. I will not account for burstiness here, because getting a string of lucky crits of multistrikes can always happen, but it will even out in the end, and you don't want to rely on pure luck to win arena matches.

Haste (10.91% 13.86% (given infinite uptime) DPS increase per 1000 rating points):
Haste is really good, and was recently buffed. Here's why.
EDIT: Since Icy Talons(10% and 20%) and Unholy Aura(5%) apply multiplicatively, all haste you equip is getting multiplied by 1.1*1.20*1.05 = 1.386.

Let's take an example:
I have 15.50% base haste with nothing equipped. Icy Talons gives 10% flat, plus an additional 10% modifier on every other haste effect except Unholy Aura for some reason. Unholy Aura gives 5% flat, plus an additional 5% modifier on every other haste effect. This gives 10 (icy talons) + 5 (unholy aura) + 10*0.05 (unholy aura bonus to icy talons base 10%) = 15.50. I am an NE so I get 1% Haste at night, but I did this test during the day where I did not have that 1% buff to Haste. I also did the test at night and the numbers I see are consistent.

Icy Talons (recently buffed) also adds 20% more of the equipped haste stat.

When you add Unholy presence on top, it adds yet another factor, multiplying (not adding to) every source of haste by another 10 or 20% (depending on spec), as well as adding its own 10 or 20% base amount.

1000 Haste rating / 100 pts per % rating * 1.21275% extra for Frost DKs = 12.1275% Haste
1000 Haste rating / 90 pts per % rating * 1.386% extra for Frost DKs = 15.4% Haste, but let's use 15% for the sake of example since it's a nicer number.
  • 15% haste means 15% faster attack speed, which means 15% more auto-attack damage (**).
  • 15% haste also means 15% more Killing Machine (KM) procs (**) due to increased attack speed.
  • 15% haste also means 15% faster rune regeneration (**), meaning that (for ex) over 100 seconds, a rune would fully cycle 11.5 times instead of 10 if you depleted it instantly every time it came back.
  • Haste does NOT affect the GCD because it's already capped at 1 second (**).
  • Haste does NOT affect any of our diseases (**).
  • Haste does NOT affect Conversion, or Breath of Sindragosa (BoS), or any skill that says it ticks "every X seconds".
It's tempting to think that haste offers a 12.1275% 15.4% DPS increase, but there's a couple things to note.
  • Haste does not fully kick in immediately once you start attacking. At first you will get faster auto-attacks, so about 2.6-3 seconds after you attack, you will get a second auto-attack that will be sooner with more haste. But after that, it will take around 7 seconds for runes to start coming back due to higher haste. This is improved by Runic Corruption, which seems to have a nice smoothing effect on rune availability at high haste. In my tests I find that I wait 1-2 seconds less for an Oblit to become available after unloading RP when using 14% haste. Blood Tap will have an even stronger bursting effect due to on-demand Death Runes, but Runic Corruption can proc repeatedly and tends to give smoother rune availability with less waiting in general. This is great if you run Breath of Sindragosa.
  • Haste does not affect diseases. From my tests, diseases seem to compose at most 10% of my DPS. (?) Needs more testing.
  • Haste does not affect the GCD.
  • Haste does not affect Breath of Sindragosa while it's up, so it will not make it burst faster. However, it will make your runes come back faster, which might allow BoS to stay up longer (?) due to the extra runic power you will have.
  • Haste can at most affect the recharge of 3 runes simultaneously. If you don't have one rune of each type depleted, then Haste's contribution is being reduced. If you have 2 runes recharging, then you're getting 66.7% of Haste's effect. One rune is 33.3% etc.
  • Haste is uptime dependent. (EDIT: See the blue text below for uptime explanation) This means that if you can't keep one of each rune type constantly on cooldown, then you won't get all of its DPS increase. Haste also has a bit of defensive utility because it gives you more runes to Death Strike when in trouble. I personally find that I have very good uptime running PHD and in RBGs, so maybe some comps benefit more from it as well. If you find yourself sitting on two unused runes of the same type, then haste is not the best for you. You should go with Versatility instead (see below) Due to the recent Haste buff, it's even harder to not get more out of Haste than Versatility. You now need to be sitting on 2 pairs of unused runes in order for Vers to be better.
  • Haste also adds some utility because you will be able to use Icy Touch more often for purges, plus more uses of Chains of Ice, and you will have more RP for interrupts, Conversion, and Dark Simulacrum.
  • I also see a lot of people saying that if you have a crappy connection, Haste is worse. This may be real if you lose some time after runes come off cooldown. Try switching to Unholy presence and feel the effects of 10% more haste. Imagine that effect in Frost presence where you don't lose the RP gen, and see if it would be better for you.
  • There is concern that there's such thing as too much haste because past a certain point network lag and uptime start really hurting. I am currently sitting at 35% Haste (15% from gear) and I feel like I could use even more. You can't get much past 19% from gear with the current gear available, so I don't think it will become an issue this season. For those wondering, I did some calculations, and you would need to stack 2240 Haste as Frost in order to hit the cap. By my count, the most you can reach right now with the current gear is 1396, so we are far from the cap. I was previously wrong in thinking that Unholy Presence will make you hit the cap. It doesn't. I'm at 51% in unholy presence right now. I think only the base haste is capped at 50%.
So to conclude: 1000 points of haste gives roughly 10.91% 13.86% DPS increase (1.54% lost due to not affecting diseases) if you have infinite uptime. In reality, this isn't going to happen, but it's extremely unlikely that you will not have at least a few runes on cooldown, which is enough to get lots of benefit from Haste.

Crit (3.64% DPS increase per 1000 rating points):
Yes, Crit is really bad, and probably the worst stat for Frost. Here's why.
1000 rating / 110 rating per % = 9.09 Crit chance for 1000 rating.
So we are adding a 9.09% chance to do 50% additional damage, meaning on every attack that can crit we are adding 4.545% damage.
  • Diseases can Crit! Actually all damage a DK does can Crit! (*)
  • But there's a catch: Killing Machine. KM guaranteed Crits means the your Crit is useless when KM procs! Based on my tests, about half of my obliterates or more are used when KM is up. If you are really good at managing your runes, it might be more than half, but let's assume half for now. On my tests, my obliterates do between 40-50% of my overall damage no matter if I'm bursting, or just normally DPSing. So that means that if half my oblierates don't use KM, then my Crit is not being used half the time on my Oblits, so the real Crit contribution is more around 4.545% * 80% = 3.64%.
Multistrike (4.545% DPS increase per 1000 rating points):
As Blizzard themselves have said, Crit and MS are equal, even in PvP.
1000 rating / 66 rating per % = 15.15% MS chance for 1000 rating.
So we are adding an 15.15% chance to do 30% additional damage, so by simple math: 15.15% * 30% = 4.545% damage increase.
  • Every attack can MS, including diseases. I am not sure if Death Strike healing can MS (?), but I am pretty sure that Conversion cannot (?).
  • Multistrikes can crit! And KM procs (if they proc MS), will automatically Crit on the MS proc.
  • I see some sites saying MS is the best stat, but I just don't see it in the math; far from it in fact. Maybe they are forgetting it only procs once in PvP? Maybe I missed something?
Mastery (~6% DPS increase per 1000 rating points):
This one is a bit fuzzy because it highly depends on how much Frost is contributing.
1000 rating / 55 rating per % = 18.18% Mastery for 1000 rating.
  • This means 18% increased Frost and Shadowfrost damage (**). But how much of our damage is actually Frost or Shadowfrost?
  • According to my tests, I get between 25-40% Frost damage (when doing regular dps), averaging around 33%. Strangely enough, this applies even when doing crazy burst with BoS, because you are not using Frost Strike.
  • So therefore 18.18% * 33% = ~6% damage increase per 1000 Mastery. This beats Crit and MS assuming at least 25% of your damage is Frost or Shadowfrost, which is a pretty safe assumption.
  • I'd like to see more discussion on Mastery because I'm not sure where it will sit in the priorities.
Versatility (7.69% DPS increase per 1000 rating points):
This is the easiest one to calculate. This is a great stat because it offers healing and defense bonuses.
1000 rating / 130 rating per % = 7.69% Versatility for 1000 rating.
  • 7.69% Versatility means 7.69% more damage across the board on all damage DKs do (*).
  • 7.69% Versatility means 7.69% more healing on Deathstrike, and other heals that are not %life based. Versatility does not increase Conversion healing!(**) Death Pact (?)
  • 7.69% Versatility also means 3.85% less damage taken from all sources (*).
Some ugly facts I found while testing:
  • The 4pc Frost DK PvP set bonus does not work on Shadowfrost damage. BoS and Necrotic Plague do the same damage regardless of you activating the 4pc bonus (I didn't test reaper since target dummy can't go below 35% hp). This is probably a bug, and I have reported it. I was doing 2v2 with a Frost Mage and was running it, but I'm not sure if the Frost Mage is getting any benefit (?).
  • The PvP target dummy at the Glad Sanctum takes double damage from crits instead of 50% more - probably a bug. Multistrikes are also causing 2 strikes instead of 1.
Strength:
I didn't test anything for Strength, but it almost never overlaps with secondary stats, so not much to discuss here. Even if it does, Str gets so many insane %-based bonuses from DK passives and procs that it easily outdoes the other stats (*).

Putting it all together:
  • All the numbers are for 1000 rating in isolation. Some may wonder if it changes when you throw all the stats together and in different amounts. I would say that in most cases it does not because stats do not interact in any way that provides a faster or slower damage increase than each stat would on its own.
  • Strengh is most likely the best stat in all cases, unless someone can prove otherwise.
  • Haste and Versatility are both really good. Haste is better in terms of pure math, but Vers benefits your early burst more (i.e. the first 7-8 seconds of DPS after starting with full runes). We are looking at 13.86% more DPS (but not in the first few seconds of damage) vs 7.69% more DPS (active at all times). Haste's benefits will only fully start showing up after runes start coming off cooldown. During the initial burst, you will only gain the increased auto-attacks and KM procs. Versatility does have the healing and damage reduction benefits, though they are less important for DKs compared to the damage benefit, and Haste has some built-in survivability too due to the rune regen for Death Strike, and extra RP for Conversion. This could make a great discussion to see which is better, Haste or Vers. Looking at the DK gear though, it looks like you can usually get them both together. If your connection sucks, or you think that Haste feels worse when you play, go for Vers since it is by far the best other choice.
  • EDIT: I have been studying the uptime requirements of Haste and here's what I see: you are getting 100% of Haste's effect if you constantly have at least one rune of each type on cooldown. That is, you must have at least 1 death rune, 1 frost rune, and 1 unholy rune on cooldown. Haste also increases autoattack speed, but most of the benefit is in the runes, not the autoattack. It's probably common knowledge that only one rune of each type can be recharging at a time (if not, see Haste section above). Haste is only worse than Versatility if you are sitting on two runes of the same type two rune pairs for a significant period of time. I have been checking my runes for a few weeks now, and I am almost never sitting on two rune pairs while in combat (except at the beginning when all runes are up, but it takes only 1 GCD to put enough runes on cooldown). Even if you're kited, you are still using icy touch for purges (thanks Scoot), chains of ice, howling blast, etc and using up those runes.
  • Crit is flat out the worst from the numbers.
  • MS and Mastery are an interesting discussion. Mastery seems to be better if you can have more than 25% of your damage as Frost or Shadowfrost, but MS can be more bursty. I tend toward MS because I like seeing numbers, and because Mastery seems really boring, but gearing into Mastery might serve you well if you also play Unholy.
Stat Priority:
So the stat prio in my opinion is the following ('>>' means much better), but note that it is based on overall damage. Vers is better than Haste for bursting, and for surviving damage dealt to you in 3v3. This is why top ranked 3v3 DKs are favoring it over Haste.
Str >> Haste > Vers > MA >= MS >> Crit


Gear Selection:
Here is my best attempt at putting together a gearset that satisfies the above. I would take the 2pc set bonus (since you gain very little by dropping it, and it's actually pretty good), but not the 4pc. I will adjust this based on any new data though.

NOTE: Some Vers pieces require Revered with the Ashran faction. This might seem annoying, but it's actually extremely easy. Go to Ashran, but don't group into a raid. Run solo, and loot as many enemy corpses as possible. Occasionally you will get a blue item that you can hand in at your home base for 2750 rep. I got to revered in 1 hour doing this.

Helm: MS/Vers
Chest: MA/Vers
Shoulders: MS/MA Set piece shoulders. The MS/Haste shoulders are better, but need the 2pc bonus.
Gloves: Vers/Haste
Legs: MA/Haste Set piece pants.

Boots: Vers/Haste
Belt: Vers/MA (or go MS/Haste if you like MS more, very small difference)
Bracer: MA/Haste
Neck: MS/Haste
Cloak: MA/Haste
Ring1: MS/Haste
Ring2: MA/Crit (or take MS/Crit if you like MS more. Very minor difference.)
Trinket1: Vers with proc Str
Trinket2: Str with on use Vers
Enchants: Haste or Vers (This is the biggest decision when gearing, but can be changed easily. Take Haste if you can ensure 2 runes of different types always on cooldown, and if you want a bit more utility and faster rune cycles. Take Vers instead if you have uptime issues or a bad connection, or want better survival when running Death Pact, or want to be more bursty in the first 7-8 seconds of DPS when you have full runes (best for using Breath of Sindragosa and Empower Rune Weapon).

Final projected bonuses:
+10.3% MS (11.8% if you took the MS ring over MA)
+18.5% MA (16.7% if you took the MS ring over MA)
+5.8% Vers (9.0% if you took all Vers enchants options instead of Haste)
+2.8% Crit
+21.5% Haste (17.3% if you took all Vers enchants instead of Haste)


#4366424 Resto Shaman need some pro tips

Posted Vengeful95 on 21 January 2015 - 10:18 AM

/cast Healing Surge
/stopcasting
or
/cast Healing Wave
/stopcasting

against interrupt bots.


#4276930 Spell Firing Order, Finger Movement, and Cast Sequence Macro's

Posted Twaenkz on 26 November 2014 - 08:05 PM

Is this homework?




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