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#3902954 Holy Paladins 5.4 - Gutted

Posted Zilea on 21 June 2013 - 08:59 AM

  • Eternal Flame initial healing has been reduced by 30%.
  • Sacred Shield (Old) has been renamed to Holy Shield and is no longer a talent. Holy Shield is a Protection Paladin ability learned at level 85.
  • Sacred Shield (New)
    • Holy: When the Paladin or their Beacon of Light target falls below 30% health, that target gains a Sacred Shield absorbing damage equal to 30% of their maximum health. Sacred Shield can only occur once every 2 minutes.
    • Protection, Retribution: When the Paladin falls below 30% health, they gain a Sacred Shield absorbing damage equal to 30% of their maximum health. Sacred Shield can only occur once every 2 minutes.
    • Mastery: Illuminated Healing no longer activates from periodic healing effects.
    • Divine Plea no longer reduces the amount of healing done by 50%
    • Selfless Healer stacks now also work on Divine Light in addition to Flash of Light.
      • Bastion of Glory will now apply Selfless Healer bonus to healing to the casting Paladin as well as other targets and consume all stacks of Bastion of Glory in the process.
For those holy paladins that have been excited about patch 5.4 with the new Turn Evil talent and Unbreakable Spirit are in for some real shockers. The latest changes on the 5.4 PTR will be devastating to  holy paladins.

The Eternal Flame change is an absolute huge nerf, plus the mastery change (which will be another nerf to Eternal Flame).

I was okay with all of that because I figured "well, maybe Sacred Shield will be better". But, the Sacred Shield change is a huge nerf. Right now, Sacred Shield absorbs around ~33K damage every 5 seconds. Under the new talent, Sacred Shield will absorb ~130K damage every 2 minutes. That's quite a difference.

Now, we haven't really gotten a blue response yet to clarify whether or not Sacred Shield is just getting an additional effect or if it is being replaced; if it IS getting replaced, we're screwed.

We also have the Selfless Healer change, but honestly, it's just trash for holy paladins because holy paladins will have no HoTs/shields in between crowd control we get caught in.

So we get to choose between a severely nerfed Eternal Flame, a Sacred Shield that is completely useless, and a spell that will leave us with no HoT/absorb

What happened to holy paladins getting some sort of CC break tool? Hell, on an unrelated note (which sort of impacts us), what happened to shaman's Tremor totem/totemic restoration being removed/redesigned?

I've been pushing and poking Blizzard to get a response... nothing.

#3902324 Once again blizzard messing with DK Survivability......

Posted Contrololold on 20 June 2013 - 02:16 AM

I don't get it. Do you even use AMZ in 2s?

hue hue

#3902197 Well my DK brothers 5.4 notes released and DKs well

Posted vacantt on 19 June 2013 - 08:29 PM

This thread is an amazing example of why the class forums should still have access restricted.

#3901849 Arena Pass 2013 - Registration Now Open

Posted Drizlet on 18 June 2013 - 11:39 PM

jizlets gonna go far

#3898806 5.4 Possible paladin updates

Posted Vlada on 12 June 2013 - 05:16 PM

why would they give us more CC ? Thats not the problem with paladins, they are changing the wrong things

#3898468 5.4 Possible paladin updates

Posted Radejjj on 12 June 2013 - 04:15 AM

It won't be instant, theyre redoing the glyph, and we have to choose between fear and repent. I don't think its as big of a change as people are making it out to be, but it does give us a lot more synergy with hunters, and anything else that has cc on the repent dr. THe unbreakable spirit change is actually REALLY nice, 30 second divine protection, and 2.5 min bubble.

If I have fear instead of repent, I CAN CC THINGS WHEN IM PLAYING WITH A DK. 5.4 here I come

#3898181 Buff Stampede

Posted Braindance on 11 June 2013 - 08:40 PM

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#3898131 Stampede is 99% useless now.

Posted flannelsoff on 11 June 2013 - 07:47 PM


i almost cried

#3894328 AMS

Posted Moreudirl on 02 June 2013 - 11:06 PM

flannel sucks

#3894444 New Debuff: Bitch Sickness

Posted Bigmoran on 03 June 2013 - 09:16 AM


#3894424 New Debuff: Bitch Sickness

Posted Spinmove on 03 June 2013 - 07:42 AM

They already have Resurrection Sickness in this game so they need to add a new debuff called Bitch Sickness.

When you're playing 2v2 Arena and run like a bitch the whole game, you contract Bitch Sickness. After thirty seconds you get kicked from the game unless you stop playing like a bitch.

Bitch sickness

Thanks for reading.

#3891604 Killawave and Chimpoelolz

Posted Reedztv on 25 May 2013 - 10:07 AM

disgusting ddosers

rep this post if u r against ddosers
ignore and at midnight tonight u will be greeted by Sara the 5 year old ghost and she will kill u

#3891243 Killawave and Chimpoelolz

Posted Zerlog on 24 May 2013 - 11:49 AM

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#3891179 The return of Samulex

Posted Bigmoran on 24 May 2013 - 09:15 AM

After a long departure from his kingdom of Azeroth, harvest-god Samulex returns to farm his crops. His kingdom lies in shambles, still recovering from the short reign of the demi-restealth god Flaberz. Can Samulex maintain order in this time of chaos? Or will he fall victim to the blight of beastcleave and the terror of the Shamguard? The Kwok is ticking and only time will tell...


The summer harvest is about to begin...

#3883149 Mages the Overlords of 5.3

Posted Dakkrothy on 02 May 2013 - 08:41 AM

completely remove the frost bomb / nether tempest / living bomb tier from the mage class, boom class fixed in pvp