Just caught this thread tonight. First, while I'm not surprised based on all of his past posts I find it rude that you, Iskaral, still bash all of the "popular" players just because you can. I remember that whole Snutz deal with Pookz and Toez and they definitely did get hacked and it seemed like they got their accounts back awfully fast, but they still made it to regionals fair and square after (it was never confirmed if anything shady happened with restoration anyway). The ONLY game they played 2v3 was against my team as we were the main team trying to stop them from making it. Cdew had a legitimate disconnect against them in some of the final moments of the TR when his internet had been shitty all week.
I'm glad to see Snutz made a video to give some insight into this whole thing because without playing in the actual tournament it's hard to know what happened. I'd like to throw out there that Cdew/Snutz/Venruki are outstanding members of the community that play the game fairly. They have NEVER cheated in any tournament or qualification to my knowledge and that says something when playing with and against them for 5 years. They have even waited for my team during disconnects multiple times in finals worth thousands of dollars.
Not enough has been said about Vanguard's team. I would've liked to see his team be given the same second chance that the 9-12 teams had and I know if there was a tournament realm instead of this wacky tournament they would've made it without trouble. Esp. after coming really close to making it straight to Blizzcon last year it's annoying to see him get completely shafted.
As for the disqualification: with all of the complaints going into this and with how poorly the tournament went I would've been baffled if they didn't check into things this time around. Still disappointed by the lack of supervision from Blizzard over the tournament. Feel like Holinka was on vacation or something during the tournament because as soon as Vanguard's tweeted that the tournament had no admins there should have been some response. Just from watching a couple VoDs I was pretty certain who was playing the mage and druid on Wizk's team.
Also disappointed in Jahmilli for causing a lot of trouble on his own not only for this tournament but the whole season. I haven't played too much of it as a lot of people know, but his nonstop and nonsensical hatred for certain players like Vanguards, Venruki, and Cdew is just unacceptable. I disliked Vanguards myself at one point because "god he's just a ret with shadowmourne trying to kill me", but jeez that was so silly and so long ago. I know he can be a better community member if he tried, but I'm not sure he'll ever change his ways. Just my two cents.
because if the situation was reversed, you would have instantly stopped playing and asked for a replay?
dude watch out how you talk to trille he is an honest guy, its not like he would play in full grievous first week of season 14 cause he got it through a bug and then demand his gold back for the enchants and gems on that gear when it got removed
Still hope Samx & Hydra remain in the tournament. Watching RMP (or Kekepopa on Warrior) is just so much more fun than caster cleave vs. caster cleave.
So you hope Hydra remains in the tournament after his chilidish attempts of destroying the tourny, and then you dare scolding the "community" for giving justified feedback (You call it flaming?) about the things that were handled wrong in the tournament. Fanboying + Naive way of thinking + Idiocy + Huge biasness in favor to the 3 RMP classes, which you don't even bother to hide, is a bad combination for a content editor, no offense.
WildeHilde, on 12 July 2013 - 10:16 PM, said:
But in all honesty, organizing such a tournament is huge and there is very little appreciation from the community for doing that. People flame every last bit and discourage other organizers by that. Admins are often times not sure how to decide and when 100 people are whispering there is a good chance to make the wrong call. In situations like these it is best to give the admins time to make the right call and just wait. Personally I have a hard time judging who was right and who was wrong.
Give them a bit of time and actually appreciate what they are doing. It's been very long since the last tournament (this is relevant, how?) and some of the matches were absolutely awesome.
People flamed the dumb decision made by the organizers. They flamed the _decision_ , not the organizers. Learn the difference, really. It's 2 completely different things. "Flaming" the wrong decisions courages the organizers to do correct decisions in the future.
Just because you have a "hard time judging who was right and who was wrong" doesn't mean everyone has this similar problem. The admins made a clear mistake. Everyone watching the tournament, including the commentators, noticed it (and knew what should've been done) within seconds.
Generally in tournaments, you decide and inform the teams about the tournament rules beforehand. Then you stick to these rules. If something happens that isn't included in the rules, you think for a second what would be the neutrally and morally correct decision. In this particular situation, the morally correct option was so obvious that even the commentators were amazed by the (wrong) decision of the admins.
If sorting out a situation as simple as this takes over 15 minutes, there's something seriously wrong.
WildeHilde, on 12 July 2013 - 10:16 PM, said:
Ceterum censeo: I want to see Samx play more than any other player in this tournament. Really hope they continue.
English please, this is an English forum. You can read forum rules if you don't believe. Or people don't understand what you write.
TL;DR Your opinions are cancer to E-sports (E-sports, lol). Stop posting biased opinions. No one wants to read them. Stick to content editing, which you're good at.
I like conrad and really enjoy his commentary with azael. Commentators often express opinion in every sport and "e-sport" there is, especially when there is poor sportsmanship. But you guys want to act like Conrad is the first one. I want commentators who will call it like they see it, and not sugar coat it and pretend everything is flowers and rainbows. The only people who seem to have a problem with it are hydra fans, which is expected because that's the nature of how fans are. But if you look at this objectively, you know I'm correct.
And ultimately hydra is just reaping what he sows. Hydra was being a dick to the admins, and being a dick to everyone basically. I even read in party chat where when an admin told him he couldn't FW early, his response was "is that a rule or some shit". It's like... come into the tourney and don't read the rules, then give an admin crap when they tell you to stop breaking the rules? Hydra openly displays his loathing and hatred for pretty much every US player. I'm a strong believer of "you make your own bed, now you lay in it". Between hydra's attitude, and the fact they forfeited instead of re-playing the game, that's on them. And when samx got his do-over, even though they had already played another game, the other team didn't threaten to forfeit in retort.
All of this aside, the drama came to a boiling point when the admins didn't follow their own rules on the DC/lag at first. And that's the only thing I find fault in the admins for in the tourney thus far.
There are maybe 4 or 5 hunters above 2300 on BG9, including Veev. Everyone else at that MMR (not just team rating, including the people that just teamhop) are wizards.
Not sure why you are responding to my point covering 2200-2400 with stats over 2300.
In BG9, There are 26 teams with 3+ players in 2200-2400 range, 18 of them has a hunter. This doesn't factor in people who play every day and team hop and don't show up in the list of 2200-2400 team rating + 3 player team list. (source crossladder.com). And it's not only bg9, it happens in 2 bgs I play on EU. It's a miracle to break 2400.
So back to the initial point, new teams grinding rating can't get over the 2200-2400 bracket because you can't beat retard hunter comps that win by sending pets on you, because there are not enough tools / healing power in the game to deal with them.
Hope it's clear this time.
1) I wasn't quiet last season and I was one of the pioneers regarding warrior nerfs
2) If you can't pull what I described you're dog - I mean it takes 2 skills not on the gcd to take 2 ppl out. Maybe watching Venruki's stream will make you better. You can also buy a SkillCapped sub or w/e and get coached
Nightmonkey, on 08 May 2013 - 10:14 PM, said:
Look at this army of mages in here defending what is quite obviously one of the strongest classes in the game.
This thread is a joke, mages need nerfs and you assholes are asking for shit like undispellable frost bomb?
And Garrote is worse than Deep Freeze? What game are you playing? You don't take 400% increased damage from the rogue during a garrote.
The bottom line is that no class/spec should be able to kill anyone 100-0 in one or two short cooldown CC's. Nobody should be doing 400k damage in a single stun. Period. Nobody cares that you can be peeled, because everyone can - that is not unique to mages. What is unique to mages is their ability to annihilate a target of their choice every 30 seconds. If they're going to do such retarded damage, it needs to be on a longer cooldown so that defensives are ready for the next one.
Seriously get this "L2P mages are fine" garbage out of here. Mages have some of the best burst, exceptional defenses, exceptional mobility, exceptional control, and very strong consistent damage. If you're not constantly peeling them off of whatever they are hitting, it usually dies - then they log on the forums and bitch about getting trained by mongo melee retards.
Both of these guys amuse me.
I wonder if their partners get paid by the hour to babysit them.
These guys would be playing TSG Braindance and DKrandomnoobX would train the healer all game then QQ when Atmosphere get globaled with out any peels.
QQ Mages are OP.
Our healer shouldn't have died with no CDs left and no peels from his teammates to a Gigantic Red Full geared Gladiator Mage, cooldowns up and flowing.