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#3813879 Support this Thread - MM Hunter Buffs/Changes/Bug Fixes

Posted Kettu on 01 December 2012 - 03:59 AM

@ the people saying Powershot should have a lower cast time / being able to cast it on the move

Go check out what it was like trying to get an aimed shot cast off in TBC against melee classes tunneling you. Now you can shoot them in the face from melee range, stop whining really.

@ the people saying Powershot should have a 100% crit chance / do more dmg

It's the hardest hitting ability in game. Are you serious this isn't enough?

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(Powershot+blink strike opener from camoflauge @ 2.2k ratings)

Atm you can reliably global anyone without bubble / ice block / dispersion within 2sec of your opener alone just by popping CDs and going Powershot->blink strike->kill command from camo. As you can see in the screenshot, my pet didn't even get to claw / autohit since the target was alredy dead after blink strike.

@ the people saying BM pet survivability is not good enough

First of all, you are doing it wrong if you let the game drag long enough for your opponents to kill your pet twice. Secondly, pet survivability is just fine. It's just warriors and mages doing way too much damage in general. Once that is taken care of, pets will be fine. Thirdly, mend pet glyph is more than enough to keep your pet out of "high end wizard shit" most of the time.

Here's a few tips for those who still enjoy playing as BM.

Since you don't have cc immunity for your pet anymore, BM only offers you retarded burst + extra pvp trinket compared to the other specs. You want to abuse these 2 things to the max. The damage you can put out during the 2-3sec window you want to kill someone is based on your stats. Nothing else. There is no reason not to min-max the stats on your gear.

1. Gem 100% pvp power (160pvp power+80agi on helm)
2. Enchant Agi > all
3. Reforge hit cap = Expertise cap > mastery > all

The stats I currently have:

30656ap (with hawk)
61.06% PvP power (73.15% with rapid fire)
40.69% mastery (with spirit beast)

Stampede was the easiest way of globaling people and it got fixed for obvious reasons. However, there are still 3 fairly simple ways of doing the same thing. Abuse while you can : )

1. Kill the target within 2sec of your opener from camoflauge. There's a trick to make your first blink strike and kill command do 20% more dmg. Shouldn't be hard for anyone with bit of hunter experience to figure out what it is. Like I alredy mentioned, you simply pop your CDs (no procs) and powershot->silencing shot->blink strike->kill command. With my stats, the numbers usually look like this: 135k->85k->80k + (35k claw+auto shot+auto hit). Notice that this is without a single crit. If the target trinkets silencing shot, simply stun him. If the target for some reason survives this, just readiness->silence->blink strike->kill command him again.

2. Spec your pet cunning. Your goal is to bait the enemies to drop your pet to low hp (your pet will do 50% more dmg) and to get as many procs as possible at the same time (proc trinket + scope+tailoring proc). Once stars align, you simply pop CDs and blink strike->kill command. They will reliably hit 145k+140k. Add a 60k claw hit and your target will die without a single crit. Once you get the hang of this, you will notice stars aligning more and more often. The key to making this work is popping cower and bullheaded when your pet is howering at low hp.

Your opponents won't have time to react to these 2 scenarios / don't see it coming, which makes them quite reliable ways to win the match.

3. Mixture of scenarios one and two. Simply you wait till stars align (get as many procs as possible) -> pop CDs -> pop stampede with all possible buff / debuff pets ->hope powershot 1shots your target. This is not very reliable as your powershot cast can and most likely will be interrupted. However, if your power shot cast goes thru and does happen to crit, it will one shot your target.
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(310k hit. Highest crit I've gotten in arena is 576k so far)

This was with trinket proc+scope proc and all CDs popped as orc @ ~71k ap.

All of this is without taking into account the chance of powershot bug which will be fixed soon™

#3794522 Arena representation

Posted Nez on 24 October 2012 - 03:28 PM

I once saw a rogue in arena, he died before I could screenshot. :(

#3794520 Arena representation

Posted WildeHilde on 24 October 2012 - 03:26 PM

The following numbers are based on the 50 highest ranked teams of each US battlegroup. Not the best choice to make the statistics of, but the numbers give a pretty clear result. The source of the information is from Disquette written in the Elitist Jerks Benefactors Bar. The methodology is explained in the official US forums.

Arena representation based on class
warrior 19.93% 353
hunter 16.32% 289
paladin 13.61% 241
druid 12.37% 219
shaman 11.58% 205
mage 9.09% 161
priest 8.13% 144
dk 3.39% 60
warlock 3.39% 60
rogue 1.36% 24
monk 0.85% 15
Total 100% 1771

Top 10 arena comps in 3v3
1. Warrior Paladin Hunter
2. Warrior Hunter Druid
3. Warrior Paladin Death Knight
4. Priest Mage Druid
5. Warrior Paladin Druid
6. Warrior Hunter Shaman
7. Warrior Mage Druid
8. Warrior Death Knight Druid
9. Warrior Paladin Mage
10. Warrior Paladin Priest

#3796309 Whoever posted this on reddit........

Posted inkorperated on 29 October 2012 - 02:08 AM

can i get some rep

#3796323 Whoever posted this on reddit........

Posted qlimax on 29 October 2012 - 02:49 AM

If I get 20 rep I'll re-post what was posted.

#3795609 Dara Mactire DDOS Squad At It Again

Posted mukuld50 on 26 October 2012 - 08:57 PM

View Posthearthadinlol, on 26 October 2012 - 05:06 AM, said:

what like how when nao got ddos and nothing happened?

Actually, the juvenile who ddos'ed me during NAO is currently doing 300 hours of community service (14-15 year old, pushing more serious charges on him was really not worth my time).

#3795385 Dara Mactire DDOS Squad At It Again

Posted hearthadinlol on 26 October 2012 - 05:06 AM

View Postmukuld50, on 26 October 2012 - 04:41 AM, said:

you have no idea of what i can and cant do buddy

what like how when nao got ddos and nothing happened? call the local police department..
ddos is just in world of warcraft at this point should be use to it.. its not going anywhere LOL...

ontop of that since youre an expert tell me what needs to happen for someone to actually get charged/caught buddy?

#3795376 Dara Mactire DDOS Squad At It Again

Posted Solleks on 26 October 2012 - 04:25 AM

How ironic.
I remember last season when we 3-0'd your shitty 5's on Retal, the next time we q'd and from then on out our team was attacked by DDOS from your partner (Seestraightz). Even more hysterical is you all didn't have the balls to queue up into us so we ended up 3v5'ing and not tanking any rating from it.
Don't be a hypocrite now that your team is supposedly dealing with the same shady acts instead of on the other end.

PS nothing made me happier than your 3 failed attempts at rank 1, having 10? 15? different people transfer over, and then last minute farming 3 different 3's teams in the past week past your Gladiator team attempt.

Duelist Maldiva.

#3794897 Dara Mactire DDOS Squad At It Again

Posted Belligerent on 25 October 2012 - 04:21 AM

View Post[email protected], on 25 October 2012 - 03:00 AM, said:

I see no ddosing programs here... Filthy gossipers. Posted Image


#3794830 Dara Mactire DDOS Squad At It Again

Posted hearthadinlol on 25 October 2012 - 01:32 AM

and are you kidding me you guys dosd our fucking mage idiots where is the start of the vid you only have when he got back.. sick jayshell booter idiot

#3794822 Dara Mactire DDOS Squad At It Again

Posted stalebagel on 25 October 2012 - 01:17 AM

View Post[email protected], on 25 October 2012 - 12:46 AM, said:

lole look at this idoits they loose to swifty cause swifty is high ratted pvp player and they unplug itnernet cuz scare of look like fool in new swifty video haha XD ROFL pwn nubs scare of swifty

I always hoped you'd stop posting here. That you'd go outside, play a sport, find a girlfriend. I have this fantasy, you see. That one friday night I would be out on the town and stop by this little bar to grab a pint, and I'd see you there with this 5/10. I'd recognize you by your scrawny demeanor and your 10 PM bed time. You wouldn't say anything to me, nor I to you, but we'd both know... That you'd moved on. Instead you sit in your damned cave pathetically ddosing for rating and half-heartedly trolling AJ.

#3794788 Dara Mactire DDOS Squad At It Again

Posted hearthadinlol on 24 October 2012 - 11:58 PM

hello how do you do

#3794684 Dara Mactire DDOS Squad At It Again

Posted Koshimo on 24 October 2012 - 08:14 PM

lol free rep

#3793000 DDOSing bads

Posted Justwoo on 20 October 2012 - 09:48 AM

gayhutner has spoken

#3793034 DDOSing bads

Posted mimmick on 20 October 2012 - 11:32 AM

View PostBailamosx, on 19 October 2012 - 09:15 PM, said:

There is plenty Blizzard can do about this, it's going to take someone to force their hand with legal action before anything happens. Money talks.

Also, threads like these are valuable if they provide worthy evidence Skype logs or screenshots of the DDOSer bragging like an idiot. It lets us know as a community who to alienate, blacklist and NOT play with. And it helps deter further DDOSing by at the very least incurring a social reputation penalty in this game.

why are you saying something your team is like the most known ddosers