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#4271569 Leekzy's Frost Mage Guide for 6.0.3

Posted leek on 21 November 2014 - 11:07 AM

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Hi there, I am Leekzy - a swedish guy with a (very) swedish accent who has played Mage since season 2, achieving Rank 1 and Gladiator multiple times with my highest rating ever being 3114 in Season 15. This is the first guide I've written for AJ, and it's aimed at a bit more inexperienced and newer players - although you may find that you can take something from this as an advanced player aswell!

Shoutout to Vanguards, whos Retribution guide served as an excellent template!

So what is actually different in Warlords of Draenor as a Frost Mage?

1.) Tons of abilities have been removed from the game (R.I.P. Evocation, Fire Blast and Mana Gem) and a lot of the mechanics of the spells/talents/specializations which weren't removed has changed. I recommend reading this summary if you haven't checked it out already for a lot of solid info.

2.) M-M-M-MULTISTRIKE. New stats have been added to the game which change the way we gear drastically due to the changes to some of our core mechanics (i.e. Brain Freeze).

3.) Removal of Improved Counterspell and other "blanket" silences! This is a change which affects us immensely - and although it might seem bad at first this is actually (imho) a buff to mages - more on that later!

4.) Der..Deep* Freeze now breaks on damage.

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Oh well! This might seem bad at first glance (and it's definitely a nerf), but it plays out pretty well in the actual gameplay. Let's delve into the world of Crowd Control (CC) and getting creative with Deep Freeze later on in the guide!

5.) Diminishing Returns (DR)! A lot of  changes have been made to DR's in WoD, most of which you can read here.
This changes the way a lot of Mage comps play and it's something that should be kept in mind going into WoD as a Frost Mage!

Important to note is that if you play with Ice Nova it also DR's Polymorph.

6.) WHERE THE F**K IS MY FROST NOVA???+++

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(If you're spec'd into Ice Nova, which yes, you probably are, join in)

Why... should you play a Mage in WoD?

First of all - the class is actually really fun to play in arenas at the moment! A lot of changes in WoD makes it an overall smoother and much more enjoyable experience to play a Mage in the arena. I feel like we still have a really high skill-cap and can play with every class that's in the game currently.


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Talents

Below is my default arena spec - but this is something that can and will change depending on what composition (comp) that you play and play versus.

Remember that nothing is set in stone guys, experiment, have fun - if you see something and think "hey this might make me kick that huntards ass" then by all means go for it.

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What's following is my personal approach - I feel like these are really stable choices with the most arguable one being the level 45 and 100 tier.

Level 15:
I recommend: Posted Image

This talent is amazing to have as a Mage - it really opens up for a lot of "plays" to be made both defensively and offensively and is just solid mobility in general. Practically a baby Rocket Boots. With 25 sec cooldown (CD). Go figure.

Level 30
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I feel like this just is the most solid choice here, sure a lot of classes have some form of purging ability which can get rid of Ice Barrier but use it with good timing and it's still a really solid defensive out and CD. Alter Time was changed and no longer resets your buffs (only HP and position), from my testing it's highly situational in its current state.

Level 45

I recommend: Posted Image

Ayay, everything is viable???

RoF is just a solid choice which enables us to get  CC rolling easier, something that is useful vs every comp you can face.

All of these talents have really good specific uses, however since Ice Ward now DR's with our other novas and RoF is a better CC to peel with Ice Ward will mostly see use versus comps that sit on the Mage from start to finish.

Frostjaw can actually be AMAZING as a peel/setup vs certain spellcleaves since it's actually a Silence - be aware Dwarfs' can remove this with Stoneform though!

Level 60
I recommend: Posted Image

Amazing talent, pretty self-explanatory.

Can be used if you are locked out on your Frost-tree to enable Ice Block anyway.

Level 75
I recommend: Posted Image

Although Frost Bomb does alright damage the utility and on demand burst that Ice Nova offers is in my opinion too good to pass up.

There are so many uses for this outside of just doing damage as it acts as a mini-stun (interrupts casts momentarily for example) that hits Area-of-Effect (AoE).

Level 90
I recommend: Posted Image
Incanter's Flow is a rather awkward talent to understand at first but once you get the hang of it it's pretty simple: you deal more damage, and if you time it well you deal A LOT more damage.
Mirror Images does a lot of damage aswell and can definitely be the way to go vs some comps, I predict that it mostly will see use in 1v1 and 2v2.


Level 100
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This talent is awkward to use, awkward to understand and it covers the screen in lazer beams. Fear not though - once you lose your Crystal virginity I doubt that you will want to go back to Comet Storm!

Although the CD of Prismatic Crystal is rather long (1,5 minutes) its definitely worth it over the underwhelming damage that Comet Storm offers in my opinion, and with some solid placement and CD usage (Lance with Icicles, 2x Frost Novas with Frozen Orb ticking is insane damage) you can actually close to slay an entire team with this talent!
Comet Storm also went down in "value" for me after they changed it so that you can't use it while being locked out on your Frost-tree.

Glyphs

A lot of choices here.
I change around my glyphs a lot depending on what I am playing vs. Most of these are pure preference!

Primary Glyphs:
Glyph of Polymorph - Highly recommended if you play with any class that might put a DoT on anything.

Glyph of Icy Veins - Now gives you 45% Multistrike instead of spell haste. Click, clack boom. Loss of the utility the haste gives though, I swap around this glyph from time to time.

Glyph of Ice Block - Makes you immune to all spells for 3 seconds after using Ice Block and unleashes a Frost Nova around you. This glyph can both save lives and act as an offensive tool, however it lost some of its value offensively for me due to the blanket silence change.

Glyph of Spellsteal - Spellsteal also heals you for 4% of your maximum health when you use it.
Really good glyph for surviving in 2v2/3v3, watch your mana however as it's very mana intensive to spam!

Glyph of Splitting Ice - Your Ice Lance and Icicles hit an additional target for 50% damage. This glyph feels really good with Prismatic Crystal, test it out for yourself.

Glyph of Deep Freeze - takes Deep Freeze of the Global Cooldown (GCD). Doesn't feel as mandatory anymore due to Deep changes.

Glyph of Regenerative Ice - You heal 4% of your maximum HP every second while in Ice Block. Really situational for 3v3, has uses in 2v2 though!

Enchants/Stat-priority

My opinion on stats comes from discussing gear with other top level Mages and testing different gear pieces out - if you got any input please reply to the thread and I'll consider editing the post!

Int > Multistrike > Haste >= Crit > Versatility = Mastery

Recommended Gems:

Multistrike.

Recommended Enchants:

Neck: Multistrike, 50-75
Cloak: 100 Multistrike and 10% Movement Speed
Rings: 30-50 Multistrike
Weapon: Mark of the Frostwolf (Multistrike), currently it costs a round 10-15k on most servers though so Mark of the Shattered Hand works just fine.

Which comps can I play in WoD as a Frost Mage?

So far it feels like you can play with pretty much every class!

If I were to predict our strongest comps based on my current experience in wargames and skirmishes I would say that these comps all will be viable:

Warrior/Mage/Healer

Rogue/Mage/Healer

Feral/Mage/Healer


Moonkin/Mage/Healer

SP/Mage/Healer

Lock/Mage/Healer


DK/Mage/Healer
might make a truly solid appearance aswell, although I haven't gotten around to trying the comp out!

Macros:

These are the macros I personally use, I recommend checking out previous Mage guides on AJ for more input since not a lot has changed macro-wise!
CLICK HERE FOR MACROS


Gearing your Mage for Arenas
Gear according to stat priorities and get 4 piece for the set bonus (serves as dispel protection mainly!) with the legs for maximum multistrike.

MY ARMORY LINK

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Gameplay!

Great, you got your Mage setup and ready to play!
... and now what?

Whether you come from TBC, WotLK, Cata or MoP into WoD one thing is certain - Mage now plays differently from any other expansion.

While I am sure the removal of Deep-Blanket for kills confuses and annoys a lot of Mages (how am I even able to kill something on my own anymore?) it's important to remember that adapting to the metagame is the single most important going into a new expansion. There is light at the end of the tunnel guys, it's just a different tunnel we're in!

Mages now rely on getting solid CC rolling on the enemy team and ramping up your damage to be able to unleash at the moment you want to burst - for examples stacking up a few icicles so that you know that when that CC lands on the enemy healer you are ready to do massive damage.

A lot comes down to managing your Ice Novas, if you are able to stack up 2 or even just 1 with some solid Fingers of Frost (FoF) or Brain Freeze (BF) procs you can do insane amounts of burst damage! Mashing the abilities right as they pop up on cooldown might make you do overall more damage but gimp your potential burst, something which is important to understand to be able to land kills.

The removal of blanket silences has really helped us land CC - fake casting is now better than ever and this change lets you do something you rarely could do since the end of WotLK - actually Deep Freeze someone, fake a Counterspell (CS) or interrupt and then actually get a Polymorph or Ring of Frost cast off straight afterwards!

A neat little trick you can use is to simply Deep Freeze the enemy healer, start casting RoF and tank the interrupt while spamming your Polymorph binding - this guarantees that you will land either the RoF or the Poly on the healer. This was not a possibility before simply due to the fact that you got blanket silenced even though you managed to fake the CS.

Another tip is to track the Dispel Cooldown of enemy healers - this was incredibly important in MoP and it still is, maybe even more so in WoD! This truly allows us to start abusing the beauty of Polymorph and our other CC's. I personally use Gladius to track it, I'm sure there are other addons which does this aswell.

Last but not least I want to share a simple yet very effective trick that I wish I knew of when I started playing mage for getting cross-CC (Crowd-Controlling multiple opponents in the arena) rolling.

Say you're looking to CC a healer, but you need to prevent a Shadow Priest from Mass Dispelling him out of your Polymorph and you do not have your CS off cooldown. What you can do is that you Polymorph the SP, while spamming your focus Deep Freeze macro on the enemy healer - these two spells should land at the same time, basically starting the double-CC. You can then cast a RoF on top of the Deep Freeze and voila, you just controlled two players by yourself without having to mess with dispels and whatnot.

Mage Streams:

Venruki
Jahmilli
Hynnix
Xaryu
Daisyduke
Proffset
Leekzy
Nolifer
Friedkitteh
Watchmeblink

Thanks a lot for reading, hopefully this gave you some form of help going into Warlords of Draenor as a Frost Mage - if you got any questions feel free to PM me on AJ or Twitch.TV - I'll try my best to reply to everyone.

In frost we trust,
Leek

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#4248667 well deserved title Kappa

Posted Mehhx on 31 October 2014 - 05:51 PM

no title for me : 3


#4247653 well deserved title Kappa

Posted Ashleylol on 30 October 2014 - 10:46 PM

hi

i have no idea what the fuck went on in the blizzard HQ today?

firstly, check the 5s ladder http://eu.battle.net...eaderboards/5v5

there are so many blatant wintraders on the ladder
the pvp ratings records show this and over 30 people from the legit teams (mine, nieze's, thunderz's) reported these teams and yet even a 5x dps russian team did not get disqualified?

check this guy out for example, clearly a 5s god
http://eu.battle.net...d/Pëtä/advanced - CHECK HIS 3S RATING! :D

so there we have it, loads of people get it YET again and there is no relevant disqualifications despite MULTIPLE players reporting these players on a frequent basis: and EVEN though they wanted to take extra time to sort out the ladder the most evident of all wintraders were not disqualified?

its actually disgusting

To add to this, here is a ticket that someone in my team (Vildé) made - Here is the reply he got:

I have looked into your ticket and win trading is automatically actioned at the end of every season, their titles, gained items, points and progress are removed, and it is VERY easily tracked. Their accounts are also suspended and given warnings to reflect the severity of the situation, but it is not something we deal with locally, due to the scope and scale of the problem. It is handled by the development team, across all servers, at the end of every season. Once they are actioned and removed from the runnings, the ladders are automatically adjusted to allow for this.

Hope this helps to ease your mind.

We really appreciate the time you guys take to contact us though, as without you guys we don't exist, and your continued passion for our games allows us to be here to help you when possible!

Kappa

ty blizzard yet again for utter bullshit and unfair play


#4159516 Skill Capped - How to CC as a Mage in WMD

Posted Vanguards on 30 June 2014 - 06:53 PM

Skill Capped - How to CC as a Mage in WMD

Skill Capped recently released a YouTube video on Mage CC. If you're new to playing Mage, this video could be quite helpful as it explains how to make it easier for you to start CC chains even if you're under pressure.


For veteran players, Skill Capped is also looking for players like Proffset to be interviewed for videos. If you're interested in being interviewed for videos, you can click on this link to apply.


#4128614 X-Mog!!! Let's See'em Boysc

Posted proffset on 27 May 2014 - 08:50 AM

What the hell, my felhunter has taken the appearance of a welly?
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#4158194 In-game NPCs named after PvPers

Posted Booked on 28 June 2014 - 03:18 PM

sweet new pikaboo npc
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#4156229 In-game NPCs named after PvPers

Posted Snuggli on 26 June 2014 - 08:33 PM

Looks like some pvpers got some in game npcs.. you can see the model if you click view in 3d.

Hoodrych - http://wod.wowhead.com/npc=79900 "Captain Hoodrych"
Swifty - http://wod.wowhead.com/npc=79902 "Captain John Swifty"
Bajheera - http://wod.wowhead.com/npc=80484 "Captain Jackson Bajheera"
Azael - http://wod.wowhead.com/npc=80486 "Necrolord Azael"
Hotted - http://wod.wowhead.com/npc=80488 "Alune Windmane"
Nadagast - http://wod.wowhead.com/npc=80489 "Necrolord Nadagast"
Talbadar - http://wod.wowhead.com/npc=80490 "Mindbender Talbadar"
Novoz - http://wod.wowhead.com/npc=80491 "Elementalist Novo"
Vanguard - http://wod.wowhead.com/npc=80492 "Vanguard Samuelle"
Venruki - http://wod.wowhead.com/npc=80493 "Elliot Van Rook"
Tosan - http://wod.wowhead.com/npc=80494 "Tosan Galaxyfist"
Hildegard - http://wod.wowhead.com/npc=80495 "Hildie Hackerguard"
Yoske - http://wod.wowhead.com/npc=80496 "Rifthunter Yoske"
Mes - http://wod.wowhead.com/npc=80497 "Lord Mes"
Crazé - http://wod.wowhead.com/npc=80498 "Brock the Crazed"
Athlete - http://wod.wowhead.com/npc=80499 "Avenger Turley"
Cdew - http://wod.wowhead.com/npc=80500 "Taylor Dewland"
ReDeYe - http://wod.wowhead.com/npc=80501 "Red-Eye"


Unknown NPCs:

http://wod.wowhead.com/npc=80487 - Empty

Spoiler


Class Distribution

:druid: - Hotted
:hunter: - Yoske, Tosan
:mage: - Venruki
:paladin: - Vanguard, Athlete
:priest: - Talbadar, Crazé
:rogue: - Hildegard
:shaman: - Cdew, Novoz
:warlock: - Azael, Nadagast
:warrior: - Swifty, Bajheera, Hoodrych
:deathknight: - Mes
N/A - ReDeYe

Note: It is likely that Tosan is being represented as a Monk instead of Hunter. This leaves Druid, Hunter, Mage, Rogue, Death Knight and Monk with only 1 NPC.


Extra Info: Potential Candidates:

Put the most likely candidates in bold and least likely in italics, mainly taking into consideration their spec and relations with Blizzard. This is purely my opinion and a guesstimate of the people Blizzard will most likely consider.

[US] - Snutz, Rzn, Reckful, Sodapoppin, Jahmilli, Dannycarey, Chanimal, Sodah, Abn, Pikaboo ...

[EU] - Minpojke, Zunniyaki, Nolifer, Boetar, Baten, Trillebartom, Doomsen, Akaishuichi, Nauree, Praii, Flubbah, Hydra, Mystic, Braindeadly, Waffle, Blukstack ...


Classes with only 1 representative so far and are thus most likely going to get more:

:druid: : Sodah, Sodapoppin, Minpojke, Baten, Doomsen
:hunter: : Braindeadly
:mage: : Jahmilli, Abn, Nolifer
:rogue: : Rzn, Reckful, Pikaboo, Akaishuichi, Praii
:deathknight: : --
:monk:: Dannycarey, Nauree


#4142525 Last chapter of World Of Warcraft 3v3 Ladder pvp ? ggspz banned~

Posted Jontex on 14 June 2014 - 01:55 PM

WHY IS IT ALWAYS THE GOOD ONES - ZYZZ, 2PAC, BLOODX, WHO IS NEXT??


#4142687 Last chapter of World Of Warcraft 3v3 Ladder pvp ? ggspz banned~

Posted Mehhx on 14 June 2014 - 03:42 PM

brilliant, justice has been made


#4141940 Last chapter of World Of Warcraft 3v3 Ladder pvp ? ggspz banned~

Posted rizzy on 13 June 2014 - 11:21 PM

RIP in pepperonies.


#4142177 Best Rogue change in a while (WoD)

Posted Speedymart on 14 June 2014 - 02:03 AM

BoS is absolutely retarded and needs to go, along with the other class changes step should be fine again



Please fucking remove BoS for the love of god

feathers too


#4142087 Best Rogue change in a while (WoD)

Posted scuzfail on 14 June 2014 - 12:39 AM

please, please, PLEASE remove subterfuge and burst of speed


#4142648 Best Rogue change in a while (WoD)

Posted rizzy on 14 June 2014 - 03:05 PM

Just remove shroud, blades, burst of shit and or change subterfuge so you can still be seen and it's all good imo.

And afaik blades is being removed, dno about shroud but I sure hope so; and I also believe subterfuge is being changed like that too so =)!


#4141838 Last chapter of World Of Warcraft 3v3 Ladder pvp ? ggspz banned~

Posted Nyeshyo on 13 June 2014 - 10:40 PM

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#4132427 ProGameX World of Warcraft Arena May 2014 Tournament (3v3)

Posted Shawir on 01 June 2014 - 01:28 AM

View PostSaikx, on 30 May 2014 - 09:09 AM, said:

I didn't play 5s so niezes bro can get r1 aswell since we didn't have time to play a lot especially with 2 mages in 5s, also the other team that took r1 at the end(they asked me to xfer to play 5s with them, I declined) actually begged me not to play 5s cause they knew it will be freeloot with the other mage.

Funny how all the garbage starts to talk back suddenly, know your place mongrel. At the top of my game you were just dirt under my shoes.

nice try peasant

hey buddy, i don't dislike u in any sort of way but i'm just here to remind u that u always were utter trash at this video game
u're the one that should know his place...

i'm not posting to defend anyone, he's actually right and those guys really are the bottom of the food chain

god bless




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