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Deliriumz

Member Since 14 Oct 2011
Offline Last Active Oct 21 2013 09:22 PM
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In Topic: The state of PvP?

18 October 2013 - 07:45 PM

btw, you say representation means nothing but currently on EU in top 100:

resto shams- 17
resto druids - 7
holy paladins - 3
holy priests - 6
mistweaver monks - 0

This says nothing to you?? Sure things like what class is most enjoyable to play, comps, etc. play slightly into this. But representation in the top 100 = representation of who's getting r1 at the end of the season = what healers have the most viable or strongest top tier comps or best synergy with the top dps comps at the time (and also which healer is most versatile to win against any comp they may face in ladder play.. aka no dumb losses).

In Topic: The state of PvP?

18 October 2013 - 07:23 PM

View PostVirent, on 18 October 2013 - 07:03 PM, said:

You can't judge by top 100 because there are people who are really good at their class and can still get top 100 because of it because of some non-horrific comp. That person might do x100 times better on a different class.

You can't judge about class balance with representation altogether unless it's something ridiculous like 20-25% representation of a class (oh wait).

All your points are completely valid and I agree. I'm not saying representation is the absolute marker of balance. The thing that I find interesting is that there is currently this huge overwhelming idea on AJ that holy priests are the only healer you see in 3s and that they are vastly overpowered compared to other healing classes.. to that I say show me the proof.. How many threads have there been regarding changing holy priests or griping about their talents. I happen to think healer balance is actually pretty damn good right now compared to the recent past.. remember the entirety of cata when rshams were truly the only viable healer. I just don't understand what people have so much beef about w/ priests atm.. I guess it just stems from the annoyance of being feared easily, but I could easily pick out talents that other healing classes have that are equally as annoying to me.

In Topic: The state of PvP?

18 October 2013 - 11:23 AM

View PostLuminary, on 18 October 2013 - 01:34 AM, said:

Top 100 means nothing you vapid tool. Try top 1000 if you want to see any actual semblance of useful statistics.

Top 1000 represents more of what people like playing more imo, because all you have to do to get top 1000 is be over like 2060 or something. If you look at the top 100, it represents whats truly competitive in high end arena where people are playing the classes to the fullest. But if you really want to know top 1000...

Resto Shaman - 100
Holy priest - 92
holy paladin - 82
resto druid - 54
mistweaver monks - 10

These #'s mean nothing to me imo. Resto druids also have TONS of utility, so the people not in the top 1000 playing them are clearly not using their abilities the way they should/could be. Holy priest utility is certainly easier for the average player to take advantage of, no one can argue with that, and that's what everyone gripes about with feathers, chastise, etc. ITS EASY. But that doesn't mean the class as a whole is overpowered... And I understand people's arguments when they say getting a fear should never be that easy, etc. But if you take away that w/o compensation, I 100% guarantee there will be a drastic swing in the other direction.

In Topic: The state of PvP?

17 October 2013 - 10:41 PM

View PostCrossBlesserx, on 17 October 2013 - 08:20 PM, said:

Yeah all those 2.4k php champions are epic, the amount of skill is mind blowing, godlike if you will

And those priests are doing excactly what I mentioned above..

View PostEnyalius, on 17 October 2013 - 08:38 PM, said:

At least PHP req. more skill than half of the priest setups out there. :)

I dont know what it's like on EU, but there's a grand total of 4 holy priests on the entirety of North American servers over 2400 (there's actually only 10 over 2300)... "all those" priests.. yea there's just tons of them that play like shit and get high rated. And none of them played php that i know of. Playing a comp and doing mediocre is different than playing a comp and getting 2400+. You have to do the little things right in addition to the standard holy priest playstyle that you are mocking.

In Topic: The state of PvP?

17 October 2013 - 07:33 PM

View PostCrossBlesserx, on 17 October 2013 - 09:11 AM, said:

+ priests aren't too strong, I have never said that in any of my posts here. Please point out to me where I say or imply that priests are too strong?

View PostCrossBlesserx, on 15 October 2013 - 07:27 PM, said:

Priest PoV:
Stand around somewhere (doesn't matter where) throw some instant heals and eat some instant CC, doesn't matter if you meld / death some cc, more instants flying your way anyway. When you need to fear, step on one of your steroid feathers that make you run almost as fast as mounted ppl and run five times around the arena in spectral guise and land every fear on who ever you want on cooldown.

Saying that you don't need to care about positioning, dodging cc, etc to succeed. How is this not implying that they are strong

View PostCrossBlesserx, on 15 October 2013 - 07:39 PM, said:

That assumption is also so WotLK, as if people would have to do anything other than what i just mentioned to go 2,4+ :D
and then just this to top it off.

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