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Posted Odrareg on 26 August 2015 - 01:41 PM
Posted Odrareg on 26 August 2015 - 01:50 AM
Posted Odrareg on 23 August 2015 - 08:06 PM
unbreakable spirit is basically a great deal vs caster teams because of the shorter bubble which he can almost use as a trinket. remember that overlapping bubble and wings is also heavily discouraged.
if he wants he can also use hand of purity instead, which totally destroys warlock's damage. however i personally find that spell very incosistent for some reason, but i think it's down to personal preference.
Posted Odrareg on 23 August 2015 - 08:00 PM
it's also a nice try to actually kill the pet so he doesn't have to fake counterspell. at the same time if he actually has problems with counterspell something is crazy wrong because you're a 100% spellcleave and if the warlock is always able to cs the healer, it means you're not being a threat to the enemy team.
i know some warlocks will keep their cs for the healer at all times for extra pressure, but in general if you lose against EVERY SINGLE WARLOCK it means you're not forcing him to use peels on you dpsers.
sometimes the solution right after polymorph is actually spamming damage more than ever.
i don't know what your rating / mmr is but in general it might easily be related to a poor technical set up he might have. warlocks switch a lot and if he doesn't have proper keybinds, or even doesn't have targeting macros for you and your team mate, he's going to fall behind, it's pretty much a fact.
another good idea against warlock teams can be using double beacon and selfless healer, so that he can do ridiculous heals on both of you. keep in mind double beacon makes him lose saved by the light so you should use your ice block and disperse a bit earlier.
the judgement spec is only advised vs teams that won't cc him for more than 6-7 seconds in a row (it's highly unadviced against mages, because a full set of polymorphs and any other random CC will let his stacks drop, and at that point you would have been better off having a sacred shield)
it's also of key importance to communicate on his cooldowns (wings) in order for you and your mate to spam polymorphs , or use defensive fears, or offheals from the spriest, in case your healer is unable to keep you up. at the same time remember that playing gay for too long basically lets you fall behind, because in order to be successful as godcomp you should try to let the enemy team force 1 CD every 30/40 secs (hoj - deep poly - psychic horror should be used on cd, unless you REAAALLY can't go for the push in that specific moment).
hoj should almost never be wasted and he should save it for chaining it right after the psychic horror for you guys to have every 30 secs a 8 sec stun lock on your target. i know these tactics aren't exactly specifically lock-based but you should look at mastering such concepts before finding a SPECIFIC anti-warlock gameplay.
however let's not forget warlocks are very OP right now so don't be excessively surprised if you have a harder time against them. remember that letting a warlock do whatever he wants during demon soul can be too reckless. you can only do it if the paladin plans on bubbling and cleansing all dots, or if he has aura mastery ready / happens to be using it in that moment. else, cc the shit out of the warlock and either push back, or push harder with the horror-hoj and deep-poly on healer.
i hope i could help a little bit. best of luck
Posted jaimex on 16 August 2015 - 08:57 PM
After losing 2-1 the protocol was to upload screenshots of the scoreboard for proof of the win. In doing this, it was easy to see I was using gladius. Now, im not sure if some of you are aware or not but in EVERY other online tournament EVER all addons have been allowed. In fact, every other team in this tournament used addons, including all of the mage teams. I can say with certainty that the first series they were using atleast a DR tracker, as they sheeped off dr on cd etc. They refused to post any screenshots so I cant prove this but I would bet my life on it.
I got a notification that a protest was put in; we couldn't believe it.
the technicality that they were trying to enforce is this (which is designed for KICKBOTS in mind)
A. Third party user interfaces compatible with World of Warcraft will not be allowed at the European Championship Qualifier or the Finals. At the 2015 European Road to BlizzCon, Team Members will have fifteen (15) minutes prior to the start of the first match with each opponent Team Member to prepare the computer on which they will use to participate in the Tournament match.
Clearly 'third party user interfaces' included gladius.
The dialog that was in another chat is this;
17:05:55 Jaimex: can you look at the protest please
17:06:02 NachtkindFX: will do
17:09:25 Jaimex: the thing is the rules are 'No timers, actions, scripts, or macros automatically activate or trigger in response to opponent’s or ally’s actions'
17:09:33 Jaimex: however an addon is not an automatic script
17:09:43 Jaimex: a script is either something like resize frames or the thing that is banned, a lua injector which allows a 3rd party program to monitor wow and track events i.e kickbot
17:26:55 ToTheTop: Hi boys can I get both leaders b-net tag's
17:27:13 ToTheTop: we are going to stream this game
17:27:33 healingstat: Healingstat#2101
17:27:46 Jaimex: all 3 members of the other team need to provide proof
17:27:50 Jaimex: that they arent playing with addons
17:27:58 Jaimex: it says nothing in the rulebook about addons
17:28:00 Jaimex: this is a joke
17:28:05 Jaimex: we won fair and square
17:28:37 ToTheTop: added you healing
17:29:24 ToTheTop: Can I have your tag as well Banana Boat?
17:29:33 Jaimex: We want to protest the reset
17:29:37 Jaimex: their team was playing with addons
17:29:47 Jaimex: last qualifier this team did the same team
17:29:49 Jaimex: same thing*
17:29:58 Jaimex: and the other team in that case was given the win
17:31:55 NachtkindFX: that's not true, there are protest periods and all was decisions were made after the rules
17:32:02 NachtkindFX: You'll have to play this match again now
17:32:24 Jaimex: we want to appeal to the blizzard esports team.
17:32:30 Jaimex: this is completely unacceptable.
17:33:04 Jaimex: the fact that a professional esports company is having a match replayed in unfair conditions when the other team has yet to provide any proof they played without addons
17:33:06 NachtkindFX: this was discussed with the Blizzard eSports team and you have only two options now: play the game or forfight
17:33:38 Jaimex: we cant stream and we wont be able to, healingstats team still has yet to provide proof
17:34:12 CaptainHassan: we will play but enemy team needs to prove they had no addons in previous game either
17:34:55 NachtkindFX: no, they don't. Forks down. Addons are forbidden, you can be lucky we havn't disqualifed you.
17:35:04 Jaimex: addons are not forbidden?|
17:35:15 Jaimex: in the rulebook it says third party interfaces
17:35:22 NachtkindFX: ready the rules I have linked in the protest
17:35:26 CaptainHassan: http://www.twitch.tv...best/v/10897036
17:35:29 CaptainHassan: this is the mage from enemy team
17:35:32 CaptainHassan: using addons himself too
17:35:38 NachtkindFX: this are the offcial competition rules
17:36:06 Jaimex: A. Third party user interfaces compatible with World of Warcraft will not be allowed at the European Championship Qualifier or the Finals. At the 2015 European Road to BlizzCon, Team Members will have fifteen (15) minutes prior to the start of the first match with each opponent Team Member to prepare the computer on which they will use to participate in the Tournament match.
17:36:11 Jaimex: Third party user interfaes
17:36:12 Vilaye: how is that any proof, we are playing without addons for this tournament
17:36:17 Jaimex: that is NOT addons
17:36:27 Jaimex: and vilaye's team has yet to prove to anyone they played without addons
17:36:38 NachtkindFX: because they don't need to
17:36:41 Jaimex: ???
17:36:45 Jaimex: so we used gladius
17:36:46 CaptainHassan: also every other team in this tournament have confirmed they have addons, addons do not equal third party user interfaces
17:36:48 Jaimex: and we have to replay
17:36:53 Jaimex: but they can just use addons again?
17:37:02 CaptainHassan: the rules were about third party interface
17:37:17 NachtkindFX: nobody needs, but you uploaded screenshots showing you used addons. A protest was made and it was justifed. Result a regame
17:37:35 Jaimex: the blizzard ruling is third party interfaces
17:37:40 Jaimex: addons are not third party interfaces
17:37:48 Jaimex: a third party interface is a lua injector
17:37:53 Jaimex: every other team in this tournament is using addons
17:37:57 Jaimex: feel free to check screenshots
17:38:01 CaptainHassan: blizzard describes third party interface as something that modifies the game ie flyhack
17:38:02 CaptainHassan: not addon
17:38:15 Jaimex: this also doesnt explain
17:38:18 Jaimex: why last qualifier
17:38:20 Jaimex: this team did the same thing
17:38:25 kveikur: Exactly, do you feel the difference? FLYHACK and ADDON?
17:38:25 Jaimex: and the other team was then given the win
17:38:58 lagyna: i want someone from blizzard to join the conversation
17:39:04 Jaimex: yes please.
17:39:28 NachtkindFX: not possible and like said you have two options now: play or forfight
17:39:42 Jaimex: this is completely unfair, why was the other team given the win?
17:39:52 NachtkindFX: it wasn't given
17:39:54 CaptainHassan: i want a response on the fact that addon does not equal third party interface
17:39:55 Jaimex: yes it was?
17:39:56 NachtkindFX: that's not true
17:39:58 Jaimex: they won that series
17:40:24 Jaimex: surely you can see in your records
17:40:29 Jaimex: the vods are on the twitch channels
17:40:32 CaptainHassan: blizzard rules dont say 3rd party interface equals to addons
17:40:35 CaptainHassan: can you please comment on this
17:40:37 Jaimex: the dennisman 4 took the win
17:41:15 NachtkindFX: last week did a team try to protest a game they didn't play, that's not possible and the protest period was over.
17:41:23 NachtkindFX: totally different story
17:41:26 Jaimex: no
17:41:28 Jaimex: this team
17:41:29 Jaimex: balanced
17:41:34 Jaimex: tried to protest a loss to the dennisman 4
17:41:38 Jaimex: over a addon dispute
17:41:49 Jaimex: they lost that protest and the team 'the dennisman 4' were given the win
17:41:52 Jaimex: check the twitch vods.
17:42:03 NachtkindFX: I made the call and know exactly what happened
17:42:03 CaptainHassan: please comment me where does it say 3rd party interface means addons
17:42:43 lagyna: im so tired of all this bullshit
17:42:45 NachtkindFX: please get ready and I will disqualify you. A regame is a fair way to end this protest.
17:42:51 lagyna: lets just play
17:42:58 Jaimex: but whats to stop them from using addons?
17:43:06 Jaimex: they can just use addons and win when we cant
17:43:24 CaptainHassan: enemy team ready for regame?
17:43:26 ToTheTop: If you are ready banana boat, could I get a b-tag from you
17:43:37 Jaimex: jaime 2540
18:01:14 ToTheTop: What map would you like Balanced?
18:02:41 ToTheTop: tolvir
18:02:49 ToTheTop: what comp you play banana boat?
18:02:53 Jaimex: LSD
18:02:54 Jaimex: 3
18:02:58 Jaimex: enh affli rdruid
18:04:57 ToTheTop: What comp are you playing Balanced?
which is clearly a fucking joke. Praii should be ashamed that they lost at all, then went on to cry about it, they played with addons in the 2nd series and we didnt, and then continued to lose again. Shame on you you pathetic nazi fuck.
whats even better is this is the 2nd tourney they've tried to do this in, in the qualifier before they did it vs gelubabas team; although the admins gave gelubaba the win that time.
Posted escu on 16 August 2015 - 05:31 PM
Oh and this talby dude is litteraly the worst druid ive seen in a while. Litteraly autistic
Posted Guizado on 04 August 2015 - 09:39 PM
@those ppl that say wow is dead/dying
Regardless if they make money with other games etc this is bad for business, because the way you look at a business isnt "ohh its ok I am still making x amount of money" no thats a wrong view the reaily is "I lost X amount of money" so independently of how much Blizz is making the reality is they are bleeding alot and something needs to be done, because if they hire new devs or new managers or whatever and its costs them 4 mil in salaries, if they bring back just 1 million subscribers theu have made a good business move.
Posted watchmepwn on 30 July 2015 - 10:45 PM
Posted Rexyyoxxx on 30 June 2015 - 05:57 PM
Posted Lolflay on 30 June 2015 - 09:26 PM
Mortal Coil/Psychic Horror were horror effects, those never broke on damage and could always be chained off or into stuns ( Kidney Shot->Death/Mortal Coil was a viable strat for years for example ). They were put into "incapacitate" category in an effort to preserve such strats, which is honestly one of rare good Blizzard design moments.
It's the Spriest equivalent of a double melee team having multiple interrupts/stuns/etc to lock you down; until I can stand and free cast damage into your face that actually makes your HP move when you're not under CC together with your healer, double stun via horror+something else should be kept a viable strat, period.
Posted Zunniyaki on 30 June 2015 - 05:22 PM
Posted spelgubbe on 30 June 2015 - 05:08 PM
Posted Seu on 29 June 2015 - 08:42 AM
to me dampening is definitely the elephant in the room for this entire pillaring/passive play discussion though. i feel like if the arena community actually wanted to campaign for something achievable it would be the removal of the dampening mechanic and replacement with something that actually accomplishes what dampening set out to do, and incentivize offensive play.
its an arena only mechanic and accomplished the exact opposite of its goal so how hard could it be to convince them to drop it?