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Posted Feliclandelo on 17 November 2014 - 01:59 PM
Posted Crono_Smash on 04 November 2014 - 11:17 AM
This is the baseline of what we know at the time that Beta ended. Guidelines we can use to build up the knowledge of the spec from now on. It's not the guide to high end gameplay, because obvious ;P
I'd like to thank Zaul, CJ, Ciric, Animefreak/Drownlord and Avengelyne for all the support and perspective during the development.
And if someone finds something interesting that could be in this post, or some mistake of mine, please say so ;D
Overall Ret is awesome because the game is shifting away from CC gameplay. I say most specs were brought down to Ret level. Makes sense of what Blizz always said "Ret is fine" when we were not: other classes/specs were overpowered and now the game will be much more playable.
Ret got it's gameplay simplified and some HUGE buffs for it's dispel toolkit (even losing Aura Mastery/Devotion Aura). Not to mention some healing buffs to fix survivabiltiy, because Battle Fatigue has been reduced to 20%. Should be gone. We complained a lot about it. But it's OK as long as this don't change (and we know it will =/)
On top of it, Ret got much more options/flexibility. So Ret can play combinations of Sustained/Burst/Single Target/Cleave/Mobility and Healing gameplay. It's up to you to customize that.
I tried to get as many facts as I can here. The builds specifics will sink in as the meta game develops so I'll just leave Vanguards to take that foward.
Let's go to the info.
1) Inquisition removed
2) Guardian of Ancient Kings removed
3) Devo Aura removed
4) Blind became a talent
5) Hand of Sacrifice off GCD
6) Perks: Empowered Divine Storm, Hand of Sacrifice, Hammer of Wrath and Forbearance
7) Passives: Righteous Vengeance = 5% extra Mastery / Sanctity Aura = raid +3% versatility.
8) Many of our old passives have been made innate (Art of War)
Where is 2 main gameplay options: Single Target, as we always did and Cleave that it's worth for making area damage pressure when there is 2+ targets at reach. This should be usefull for RBGs mainly.
Long Arm of the Law
Fist of Justice or Blinding Light
Selfless Healer or Sacred Shield (for Cleave gameplay)
Clemency or Umbreakable (for Cleave gameplay)
Holy Avenger or Divine Purpose (for Cleave gameplay)
Execution Sentence or Prism (for Cleave gameplay)
Templar’s Verdict (basic)
Divine Protection (when physical damage)
Hand of Freedom (when there is a lot of CC)
Divine Storm (survivability when cleave)
BoG (when you're getting kited hard)
Divine Shield (when your DS is getting dispeled instant)
WoG (read below)
Glyph of WoG stack with our PVP Gear Bonus so with it we get 18% extra damage after using it. Now stack it with AW, HA and Seraph and you can oneshot people. Just be sure to use when there is a boat arround or you'll drown on people's tears when this happens.
Str > Haste > Mastery > Multistrike = Crit > Versatility
Str > Mastery > Haste > Multistrike = Crit > Versatility
Why haste? Because of our PVP Gear. Since it gives us damage/healing for HoPo spend, it's important to keep HoPo flowing, not to mention it's healing value.
The difference is very close, so this can change depending on how the game develops. If we're not spending much time healing and have a good uptime, we can go Mastery - that's how PVE people are going.
We're going to have only 5 Slots to Enchant and no Gems, plus no Hit/Expertise/PVPPower/Resil on the table so this will be much more simple.
We all know there is no rotation for PVP, but there is priorities so here we go.
Damage numbers are more balanced for melee. From MoP to WoD they reduced about 20% ranged damage (Exo, Judge) and increased melee to compensate.
Seal damage has doubled so this increases SoJ value by a LOT. SoT still does more damage on stationary target, but if SoJ makes you stay on melee range (not get kited) for a couple of GCDs it's already worth using. SoT should be still usefull against melees that won't kite you or stealthies.
SoR is worth swapping when there is 2 stationary targets but I'd just use it for 5s or RBGs. Same for all the Cleave I mention here.
1 target : SoJ > ES > HoW > EDS=FV^ > FV5 > CS > J > FV > Exo
2 targets: SoR > HoW > EDS=FV^ > FV/DS5 > CS > J > Prism > FV>DS > Exo
Just Save HoPo when it's about 7s before the CD ends so you have 5 when it's up. And align with CDs for best performance/burst, of course.
SoR > ES > J > SoT > CS > Exo> J > HoW > TV
No priority seal -> you can DPS with whatever you have on
Priority buff = Truth
Change to SoR if Truth is 10s+ duration and Right is 10s- duration
2 targets: SoR instead of SoT
2 targets: EDS instead of EDS=FV^
3 targets: DS instead of TV
SoR = Seal of Righteousness
SoJ = Seal of Justice
SoT = Seal of Truth
ES = Execution Sentence
HoW = Hammer of Wrath
FV = Final Verdict
TV = Templar's Veredict
CS = Crusader's Strike
J = Judgment
Exo = Exorcism
HotR = Hammer of the Righteouss
Prism = Holy Prism
DS = Divine Storm
EDS = Empowered Divine Storm
EDS=FV^ = Empowered Divine Storm buffed by FV
FV5 = Final Verdict with 5 Holy Power
DS5 = Divine Storm with 5 Holy Power
FV>DS = Alternate between FV and DS to get the FV buff
Empowered Seals Happy Macro:
Single button swap between SoR and SoT and if you use it with Shift you SoI and with Alt you SoJ. Flexibility on demand.
/cast [mod:shift] Seal of Insight; [mod:alt] Seal of Justice; [stance:1] Seal of Righteousness; [stance:2][nostance] Seal of Truth; [stance:3][nostance] Seal of Truth; [stance:4][nostance] Seal of Truth;
The rest is all the same we already have.
Posted Crono_Smash on 23 October 2014 - 07:20 PM
Basically, long story short, it comes down to what your experience is. I'm not going to be a dick and assume you're not that good, but with all of the really, really odd suggestions you make, I almost have to.
Felic is right about 99% of the stuff he/she has posted in this thread. The heals you're talking about with SoI and "turtling" and playing defensively being the best offense are hilarious. Like, honestly, man, the heal on glyph of AW and the heal on SoI are both garbage. The only reason i would personally ever use SoI in arena when playing "defensive" was for the mana gain, because i was forced to heal, not the heal on the ability itself. And we dont even get the mana anymore, so there really is no purpose for using it at all. It's not be closed-minded; it's realistic. I've played at relatively low-level arena 2300-2400 and the ideas you spew wouldn't even work there, let alone at high-level play.
Realistically, albeit sadly, there usually only is one particular spec that works well; all others tend to be gimmicky, or fly under the radar somehow without any real use. It used to be different, true. Back in bc and wrath you could substitute some abilities based on preference, but even then there were cookie-cutter builds that were just vastly superior in most situations.
I must admit, your personality and posts have really annoyed me, which is irrelevant, but i figured i'd mention it anyway.
You might hurt someone's feelings like that. You're a terrible person.
I just had to.
Posted zzo on 25 June 2014 - 11:28 PM
yeah in ot im generally chill, in general i love arguing with people, just that guy is some druid who got boosted to 2.2, presumably to post on aj, then namechanged and server transferred, whilst pretending to be some 2.2 druid on aj, he's now 1600, just always a good chuckle to see how they respond when u call them out
Posted Esiwdeer on 25 June 2014 - 09:32 PM
I only think we're better in terms of technology, courage, fighting skill, World of Warcraft, women, elegance and poise. You guys definitely have us on sheer size, though.
Although not in penis size, I should add, according to recent scientific studies.
Posted Sykeasaurus on 16 June 2014 - 02:17 AM
Posted Esiwdeer on 16 June 2014 - 07:58 PM
in out in ejaculate - reedwise
Who really cares about the duration of sex? Intensity, passion, fervor and enthusiasm are kings, even for homosexuals who choose to take average handsomeness and then, for some reason, make it look like a clown.
"I'm averagely handsome.. the best way to flaunt this is to look like a clown." - Reliuna, 2014
Posted Esiwdeer on 14 June 2014 - 06:32 AM
Plus, if they know you have a girlfriend at the onset of your relationship a girl in her twenties is really likely to go insane if things take a turn for the worst. I think cheating on someone gives you insight into yourself that is hard to get otherwise. Also, from a certain viewpoint you're made happier by fucking an 8 and then you feel guilty, leading you to try harder in your real relationship afterwards. If she never knows, who is the victim? It is pretty much entirely positive.
And this should go without saying, but doesn't: wrap your shit up. No matter what, seriously. No matter what you think about her, no matter what she tells you: an "8 in the gym" probably hasn't always been an 8, and she's probably experimenting with her newfound confidence as well. People really do get pregnant, people really do get HIV, people really do get chlamydia and a host of other diseases. Giving something like this to your girlfriend is like, pretty much the worst thing you could ever do.
There are actually books from the 60s that are like, self-help books for men that suggest having an affair. That line in Orange is the New Black about how the trick with women is to meet them 10-15% of the way and make them think you're meeting them 50% of the way. I dunno man, having an affair can be really cathartic like a vacation, or something.
I'd say go for it and don't look back.
Posted midney on 14 June 2014 - 12:29 AM
Respectable dude with a girlfriend finds himself the center of female attention more often than not as of late. He's never really had trouble with women, at least not in the classic sense. Anyway, guy gets a haircut and grows some facial hair and now these chicks are all over him whenever he's out, making flirtatious advances and propositions. He runs into a solid 8 at the gym who is undeniably into him, and, thus, finds himself in a predicament he's not quite familiar with. never before has he been tempted to stray, and everything in his right mind tells him not to, but the primal urge rumbles deep from within.
He is torn. what does he do?
as people have said the physicality of sex is often overstated its really not the be all and end all. like this girl could be crap in bed and you could ruin your relationship, i dunno but if he values his relationship and is happy i don't think it really is worth it
Posted Swapnames on 13 June 2014 - 11:55 PM
Posted Esiwdeer on 13 June 2014 - 09:46 PM
First thing's first: the most attractive ratio for a man to women is, classically, his shoulder to waist ratio. Ideally, I believe you want to be somewhere around 3:1 shoulder:waist. This is accomplished in a lot of ways, but shoulders are actually probably one of the easiest things to lift from home due to their comparatively weak lifting ability.
I'd suggest starting out with a simple bodybuilding plan, and working shoulders on the same day you work chest twice a week. Once you get some definition, I'd start experimenting with photos.
You don't need to be shirtless or even buff, really - this is a turnoff for some women. You do need to demonstrate your shoulder:waist ratio and present a symmetrical face, however - hygiene is the next big thing. Well, actually style is the next big thing if you think Tapout shirts or incoherence is appropriate. If you aren't an idiot, however, and simply dress in a manner that people don't think is retarded, the next thing is hygiene.
A clean, symmetrical face on a man with a 3:1 shoulder to waist ratio and then a basically confident profile and your own car is a recipe for vaginal destruction. Don't type like a moron through text. Don't type phonetically; use "you" instead of "u" and don't use emoticons more than or until she does. You don't have to write like me, but you do have to write properly. Use syntax and grammar, but don't go overboard. Be intelligible and formal, but not stiff or overly-punctuated. It's a fine balance. Leave her with lots of questions when you communicate through text - there's something pleasing about getting a question from someone you're interested in.
Finally, the most common fantasy that anyone of any orientation has about men is giving them oral sex. This is a great place to start for several reasons: for one, women are more likely to provide you with oral sex on a first date because it doesn't impact their whole balance with nature: she doesn't have to get her tits out or let anyone see her vagina, so she's likely to go for it.
It's sort of scumbag, but there's a point where you can just be a dick about it and a girl who is new to you will tolerate it. Once you're comfortable enough, I'd start out just getting blowjobs in my car. This is a great place to learn to have disposable partners - a great place to learn to inspect people for cleanliness(risk to your genitalia)
The best, though, is learning to cross the point of no return. Like, someone you've never touched before.. that moment when you put your hand on the back of her head and reveal your penis. You have to have the same attitude about your penis that I have about mine when you first reveal it. Like, "look how fucking cool this is" and then you just sort of suggest with your hand that her head goes in that direction.
That moment when you're just sitting in a car with a girl you've never done anything with and you decide it's time. You get good at just like, making them do it without actually making them - lots of women, especially with fewer partners over their lifetime, are going to not rush into something unless it's heavily suggested. Do not go 50 Shades of Grey and try to dominate someone straight off - girls will tell you no, leave your car in disgust, etc. In my experience, every woman who has been interested in dating me would also provide me with oral sex and, in my experience, women are most enthusiastic about doing it the first couple times - just let nature take its course, she's going to try to impress you.
This is a recipe for tremendously great nights. Plus, if you're nervous about maintaining an erection during sex or any other aspect of performance the blowjob eliminates it since she'll be doing all the work.
You have to think about it from the other perspective, though - it keeps you in control if you choose to go forward and it meshes with all my previous advice. She sucks your dick, you get off, you are jovial and relaxed the rest of the time together and then you just don't contact her. What is she supposed to do? She's invested - what was initially a good gambit (trading giving oral sex for actual intimacy, they unwillingly sacrifice not having to expose their nude bodies or really any sort of intimacy during the sex act for basically investing in your relationship by giving you oral sex - something that will make her feel less valuable and, thus, more likely to be thinking about you the next day while you're not contacting her at all - perfect storm.)
That seems manipulative, but it isn't. She wants someone who makes her feel less valuable. We all do. None of us masturbate to fucking girls less attractive than us; we get off to porn stars, women who are hotter than anything that exists in real life. We all want partners who makes us feel that way.
Only because I care about giving sound advice, your role in beginner/amateur sex should be that of a vengeful arbiter. You should never really express yourself in one-night-stand type sex. I know this sounds super reserved, but it isn't. You'll see if you actually follow through with it; that first time a girl just like, loses control of herself on top of you'll be like "wow that was unattractive"
Just watch them and make it like, I don't know, not romantic but.. dramatic, maybe. Let them know that you like it - that's the biggest thing women are looking for in 99% of their sexual expression: reaction. If they do something you know they perceived to be enthusiastic or special in the context of the blowjob, reward them with a noise of elation - be yourself, obviously. Anyway, I'm trying to say you don't need to dominate them to get good head - they'll be enthusiastic and experimental enough just from your confidence and the gambit they don't yet know they're making.
Anyway, that's where you start. You should do that and get back to me.
Posted Esiwdeer on 10 June 2014 - 07:10 PM
How's your support system? In my experience, men who take break ups the hardest are the ones who are reclusive. Also in my experience, the women who end up actually dumping their partners only do so after sage advice from their mother, friends, etc. I have met like, 3 women ever that arrived at a decision like that and carried it out all on their own.
It does suck to know someone knew a great deal about you and still rejected it, but as some of the other posters mentioned it does "get better." - whether that means you get better relatively or subjectively, I am not sure but eventually you will start to feel better about it.
As far as grieving goes, you should do it. The worst break up I ever had like, ever took me about 8 months to entirely process and get over. I made a thread sort of about this recently if you'd like to check it out.
If it were me, I'd grieve and learn to "overcome the vices and infirmities of those whom we subdue" which includes your past self and her in your past relationship. Allow yourself the proper time to mourn the loss of the relationship and then consolidate and reorganize. Rebound sex isn't the answer, it'll end up just like drugs or any other cowardly way out. Just face it, deal with it, don't humiliate yourself and move on.
If you live your life like, in a decent way and you're proud of what you have to show, you'll get another chance later. Every woman who has ever broken things off with me always ends up giving me another chance somehow. That's the most insight I can give into the situation: going from wishing a woman wouldn't leave to having her again, not wanting her and knowing you can do better - once you know yourself that way, no relationship can harm you.
Are you the person you want to be? Was she the person you wanted to spend your life with? The most common reason, in my experience, is that the guy thinks she's like, the hottest girl he's capable of keeping long term. Like dudes that have the attitude about starter wives and whatever else - you can't think like that. You really can find someone better. You really can make a better life in spite of her if for no other reason.
Finally, at least you're getting all your psychological growing pains out of the way now. Most women who spend their twenties in a few long term relationships don't mature until their early 30s. Having few partners, having little or no idea how to manage life, finances, etc, being out of shape or not taking care of themselves. Entangling those women is like fishing with dynamite.
Honestly dude, if it were me and I was having a really hard time I'd start taking testosterone and working out twice a day. The difference in the way you perceive women when you are and are not taking testosterone is like, night and day. During a cycle I don't give a fuck about women and it makes me like, irresistible which is convenient because I greatly want to have sex with these terrible, frustrating & treacherous creatures.
I feel for your breakup and rejection and hope you learn to view them both as opportunities. You can get a hotter girl, and find a more fulfilling path in life. Oh yeah, and later on you can be like, happy with yourself and content with everything, so there's that.
Keep your head up,
Posted Breadstick on 11 May 2014 - 05:45 AM
Posted Braindance on 27 May 2014 - 05:41 AM