Legion PVP is biggest pile of shit that will ever be released from blizzard's kitchen.
Some specs are more or less ok designed (fun wise) while others are designed by team of chimpanzees. Fun aside half of the classes 1 shot stuff and some specs do nothing. Some designs are so bad (mentally handicapped people did it) that they will have to make half of their spels OP to even make those specs viable.
P.S. Can someone tell me why does one has to do 15m dmg to actually kill a solo warlock? Im missing something?
The internet with its anonymity, tends to accentuates the worst in people. In reality, you can't help how you look. Bashing someone for something they can't help is just cruel. Often we forget there's a living, breathing person behind each and every screen. Though there's no correlation here, we should really be more cautious. You just never know how your actions may affect an individual. I never understood, with every encounter we have a choice to be kind or unkind. Why is it that we often pick the latter?
I got bored at work and decided to make a post telling a story a little about me, read it if you want, comment if you want, I'm really just writing this just to write. There will probably be a lot of grammatical errors but idc just gunna write.
This got brought up in my mind because I noticed a lot of people bashing people for irl pics and saying some pretty nasty shit like telling them to kill themselves and that is just not okay with me.
Anyway, this is the story. Back when I first started WoW I started playing it with my cousin who was trying to get me into it. I was only 12 at the time and the only games I ever played were games like socom, mohaa, halo, and all those common games. I didn't really like the thought of wow because in Kansas people would give you shit if they found out you played one of those "nerd" games. Well anyway I played and was instantly addicted and I couldn't stop playing and taking up my cousins account. Then he decided to quit to play the elder scrolls and I asked my mom for an account of my own. Well everything was as fun as could be except leveling by yourself got to be hard and was constantly getting dropped from groups because I was a 12 year old retard.
Then one day while I was doing gnomer this Mage from general chat said he would run us through it. He was level 48 or something around there and I thought he was the coolest mother fucker there was since sugar ray. Well he helped me understand the game a lot and helped me get it level 60 right before the expansion ended and we did everything together, it was fucking awesome.
When bc came out we decided both to skip school and start leveling together and hit end level so we could start out own raiding guild. We ended up just joining a guild that ended up being top guild on the server and we raided during the weekends and during the weekdays we would spam arenas and bgs.
We ran double Mage arenas like scrubs and just spammed Av. My friend and I were also kind of known for fucking with people on the server. We would make forums posts saying no one could take the gurubashi trinket from us and just rape face and would talk shit like normal 14-15 year olds would.
As clique as this sounds, the bond between us was fucking tight, I couldn't share the same hobby with my real life friends because they thought only weirdos played this game. So I could tell me friend shit I wouldn't even tell my brother. And one day we saw a rogue sitting on a gladiator mount and googled how to get it. We made a pact that one day we would get the god damn glad title together and just be the smuggest little shits there could ever be.
Bc came and bc went, we never got too far in pvp but did really well in pve. My friend was a couple years older than me and at the release of wrath he was just graduating high school. When season 5 came he played a warlock and we decided that this expansion was the expansion we were going to get that glad title. He decided that after highschool though he was going to go into the military so he wouldn't have time to play much with boot camp and all of that and he didn't know if he wanted to go into reserves or full out military mode yet either. So I played by myself and tried to get better so when he came back whenever that may be we could just get it right away.
Well people on the server really didn't like my friend at all and he dropped a comment on the forums that he was going into the military. Somehow someone found a picture irl of him and posted it and everyone would constantly bash him for how he looked and personally would pst him and even me that they hope that he gets shot in Iraq. We laughed it off because we weren't really that sensitive and would just shoot out a mom joke or something dumb.
Well my friend decided after boot camp that he decided to get deployed and do his tour then come out and go to college. It was bitter sweet because I knew he really wanted to do that his whole life that I have known him but at the same time I would be without a friend to share my hobby with.
Well my friend never ended up being to log back into his account. I would message his brother about every other month to see how everything was going and one day he told me he was killed during his deployment and I never got another message after that.
It was the most gut wrenching feeling I think I have ever had. This was my friend for quite a long time I shared this hobby with and now he is just gone. Just like that.
I quit the game because of this and decided to never come back. Then one of my friends I played league with got me back into it and I got glad and felt almost guilty getting it without him. So when wod came out I said I was going to make a hunter and name my pet after him so I would in some way be getting glad with Wes.
Season 1 of wod came. I got within range of glad at 2700 about 4 months before the season ended, knew I had it in the bag, and I decided to take my hunter with Wesley and go to gnomergon and log out where I first met my friend. Haven't logged in my hunter since and I don't plan on it.
So I guess that's why I hate when people bash someone for their looks because that shit can have some consequences (not that mine necessarily did from comments) and it's just uneeded bs.
Make fun of my sap story if you want idc I just felt like telling someone.
"Devs" aren't at fault here. People at fault are the community managers and the people who make the rules, and the department and Blizzard is nonexistent due to obvious reasons.
As for breaking the rules, not every offender can be found by the company itself, and so the company relies on reports, in this case people got reported and they got banned. I have no idea if what Xonika is saying is true, whether he truly got banned for logging on a foreign PC or he's pulling off a "I swear I didn't get banned due to boosting, hehe I got clumsy and logged on a diff PC", but I know for a fact that Blizzard doesn't ban you for logging on your own account on a different location, otherwise I would be permabanned already because I logged just in last 4 months from 5 different PCs on 5 different IP addresses.
Granted it's a bit stupid of the people get banned when they are already close to the finish line, but I have no problem with them getting disqualified.
People constantly get banned in league, CS go, and other games for absolutely minor things, it doesn't matter if they're the best or if they're the last team, so using that argument is kind of pathetic.
I won't lie and say that I'm sorry, because I truly don't give a fuck, but I do agree that this was a sucky thing to do from Blizzard side.
The reason I get annoyed at these kind of things is because the players themselves act like absolute douchebags most of the year, and then in this situation there all innocent lambs who demand justice. If you people really play this game only for money and other stuff, you should probably find a different game to play. This game was never meant to be in esport and it will never be a esport.
It obviously doesn't mean that Legion can't be good. My biggest clash of opinions on this forum resides in people demanding or expecting this game to yield the money, where is this game was supposed to be a community driven MMORPG. The people who started demanding standards set by other games is the reason why this game is in the state it is right now, otherwise we would still have that game with huge diversity and who is not aiming to keep everything balanced. I know it's a funny thing to say because the game is nowhere near a balanced state, but the game currently is in this state because we demanded to be balanced and Blizzard responded by trying to balance it instead of simple making it fun.
I am more interestend in frequency ...bit interested in decisionma
king(communitydriven due to crying? etc)
Now I could be off on my numbers but it's pretty frequent. I would say every 2 weeks about 6-7 champs get minor tweaks (such as minor mana cost changes to certain ranks of an ability). And about every 2 months? (Use to be every 2 weeks) they come out with a new champion with completely different abilities and about the same frequency of new champs they will also redesign an old champs abilities so they don't fall out of the ever changing meta.
Also on top of that about every season (year) they literally change a FUCK ton of shit like adding a crap ton of items, adding jungle camps, adding paths into the base, adding new buffs to killing the major objectives (dragon,baron)
So basically it's always changing yet still having the feel of the same game.
As for reasoning? They change it all the time. One patch they went on a nerf fest and nerfed anything that they considered "anti-fun". Like there was this champion that had an ult that was similar to a warriors execute that did more damage depending on how low they were and how many stacks of your bleed you had on them, and if you got a kill with it or assist for that matter (could be wrong) the cooldown on it just reset so if you got into a fight and walked in late you would literally just go in and guarantee all those kills to your own.
So they nerfed that because they said it made the game less fun for everyone involved. That same patch I believe they also nerfed this champ that had a stealth ability similar to wows invisibility mechanics, and when she came out of stealth her auto would stun, and they said it was anti fun so they gave her a passive stealth similar to wows and took away the stun.
But then just recently they buffed the execute guy and now he is more unfun than ever so idk they seem all over the place.
But besides the unfun thing? It's pretty obvious when a champ in league becomes op. it's not like wow where the most experienced players are all over the place arguing with bias (lol rmd op, I mean turbo, wait ferals?, no now godcomp, are hunters still a thing?). When something is op league it's just obvious to anyone who is remotely good at the game, I could go into detail buts it's easier to say it's obvious. And the nice thing about league is there is virtually no bias because EVERY pro plays EVERY champ in their role, unlike in wow where if you tell a 2700 rogue he is op he goes fucking postal and threatens your life.
If anyone on this site makes fun of anyone for enjoying this game, whether it's frustrating or not, is a delusional douche bag. Because it's either you are still playing this game you obviously enjoy it but wanna sound edgy and cool by calling it shit. Or you don't play and you still lurk the forums dedicated to a game you don't play anymore which is more pathetic than actually enjoying the game in the first place.
Pre mop, braindead warlocks who spammed fear all game would do noticeably less damage then the best warlocks who perfectly balanced time ccing effectively vs time spent doing damage
Them mop arrived, warlocks spent two globals every 20 seconds applying full dots to the entire enemy team, and then had literally nothing to do for the other 17 seconds every 20, other then spam fear. Forum sheep complain about how broken op fear is without seeing the actual issue, fear gets slaughtered in wod
Braindead mages pre wod who spammed poly all game would do noticeably less damage then the best mages who perfectly balanced time ccing effectively vs time spent doing damage (most obviously for mages in tbc/wotlk, but whatever)
Wod arrives, Mage effective damage is now 90% ice nova, a Mage who spans polymorph for 24 out of every 25 seconds does not really lose out on anything compared to a Mage who uses cc properly and actually casts other spells. Forum sheep complain about how broken op polymorph is
Druids in most seasons pre wod had to use cyclone as part of their healing rotation in pvp, as they often had no chance of just healing through the damage some classes could put out while bursting - good druids got good cyclones off effectively, bad druids got locked/shut down
Wod arrives, druids no longer have to cast cyclone as part of their healing rotation, instants do the job the majority of the time - druids are able to cyclone freely, rather then being forced to. Forum sheep complain about how overpowered cyclone
It's kinda pointless making these points anyway - they are probably strongly considering putting polymorph on dr with fear/cyclone by the next season or expansion already due to wow forum complaints about cc - complaints that will only increase with the ice nova dr change when 6.1 is released in a month or so. It's just kinda sad when people on sites like this completely ignore what the actually issues are with spamable cc, and just brainlessly repeat eachother about how broken it is
Obviously there are some people who break their keyboards every time they sit a full sheep or fear, and their opinions will never change
pets have access to be commanded, mirrors dont, cause its a cast, and sits on the same target until it vanishes.
your logic is beyond limits. "Is it because I use proper gramar and punctuation" - yea proper gramar boy, your logic is far far beyond limits... (i hope you catch my sarcasm). the last person i knew who gave a single F about grammar was my arts teacher at london met. Want me to say a cool thing? saying "i'm/was R1 & multi-glad" wont give you free helms on AJ. While it will just make people laugh, cause you claim to be something while you are nothing but a clown.
adding cd on clone is just as stupid as resto being harder to play @ 2800...
the game got fucked up right after they switch majors with minors.
Yes, you found it. I missed an 'm' while typing. You got me. My point was more that while I am interested in having an intellectual discussion about druids and priests and you are here to act smug, arrogant and ridicule suggestions by others. It's as if you think the words "no offense" instantly make your shitty attitude palatable.
It's like you can't settle for reasonable statements. Everything has to be hyperbole:
"You are not multi-glad neither rank 1 in 2s, cause you speak like 1500 (no offense)," "it would be nonsense"
"your logic is far far beyond limits"
"you are nothing but a clown"
I've come to the conclusion that you've been playing priest too much and have developed anger management issues after sitting in cyclone and trap rotations.
every healer would just put a random dot on every target, while you were shielding them all, so traping would have nonsense, because shield would reflect a little tick of healer's dot on "doesnt matter which target" and baaam trap is gone. Rethink mate. Rethink.
I agree that would be a problem, and I would not implement this as a blind damage return. Pets and images are aware of CC and will not cast on targets that are CC'd. You apply the same mechanic to reflective shield. It only reflects damage on targets that are not CC'd.
You are not multi-glad neither rank 1 in 2s, cause you speak like 1500 (no offense), but its like you have never been above 2200.
Haha what does this even mean?! Is it because I use proper grammar and punctuation (no offense)? People on these forums are so angsty. I played disc priest with Obscurity (Yogger) in 2's and 5's in season 1/2. Yes, I've had some time off from the game. I last played in Cataclysm on some private servers.
It's really a shame that wow arena discussion is no longer informative or intellectual. Anyone remember World of Ming? I would love to read actual content like that, but instead the forums are dominated by poop flinging and complaining. The ultimate trump card has become, "you don't know what you are talking about".
remove fearie fire or make it have a cd, put cd on cyclone and nerf 4pc fixed.
Faerie fire is broken. It's infuriating for anyone that has to play against it. I'm not sure why it's in the game in its current form.
What blows my mind is that Blizzard has so many outlets to improve not only their game, but their company image but they refuse. They could do a talk show on Twitch once a week, once every 2 weeks or whatever and invite some big names from any of their games (One week could be Starcraft, another Diablo, HoTS, HS, WoW etc) and just discuss the state of the game on all fronts; pvp and pve. You could invite people from the top US and EU guilds and the top players from the pvp ladder to simply discuss the game.. fans would eat that shit up and it would also open up room for negotiation on certain things. Even if they only did it before major patches, it would be such an easy thing to arrange and promote, would bring them disgusting amounts of money from ad revenue or even subscriptions to some Blizzard Twitch channel (subscribers can ask questions at the end of some shit idk) and it would give people a voice to channel through.
you're comparing different niches to specs though
shadowpriest is its own dps class in essense
shadow vs disc is comparing two completely different roles
a mage might switch from frost to arcane for a matchup but a shadowpriest is very very unlikely to switch to disc because it's a complete role change
logically speaking, if there were equal pools of specs and universal balance, you would expect shamans and druids to have the highest representation because they are the only classes that can seek three completely different roles
ele/enhancement/resto all being viable is not at all the same as all 3 mage specs being viable
this is one of the flaws of solely looking at representation
it's also basic logic that people still don't seem to understand
edit: I'm not commenting on balance or on mages. I'm not touching WoD until it hits AT. I'm simply clearing up a misconception. . . I think anyway; it's hard to understand what's going on because I feel like this is a very circular discussion.
This sums up my thoughts exactly. It's true that breaking the rules should = ban. However, such a policy that isn't applied universally is invalid and should not be applied at all. If they start going on a rampage cleaning up these blatant ability botters (interrupts, etc) and rating sellers, then things will be fine. But if going forward these bans just stand alone while so many other people do as bad or worse, then it will definitely seem off.
Funny how this is the same stupid argument criminals have so often used when they got caught; "Others got through with it so I should as well"
I don't even get why there's a discussion around this. He did things that were clearly against the EULA and even streamed while doing some of them. Any argument in favor of him is pure bias.
point is when people bring up a streamers income and personal life (specifically sodapoppin and reckful) and start throwing around names like "sellout" just make you look bitter and jealous. also psure his stream is a good source of income for reckful, and not being able to play wow will affect the quality of that, so ya it is kind of a bummer to see that happen just bc he was playing someone elses account
point is I could care less what his income is, the stream has slowly decayed from actually streaming high rated competitive arenas to him playing face roll comps and him doing nothing but talk about how broken the game is and being a major creep towards any girl he can find. He broke the rules and got banned for it, boohoo.