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#3708808 A change in the PVP landscape

Posted WildeHilde on 30 May 2012 - 02:53 PM

A blog by Hildegard, featuring Rasen from EU-Stormscale.

The WoW PVP community is known to be a bitter, troll-infested bunch of wanna-be hard asses, that hate on enthusiasm. With the lack of tournaments since Cataclysm started and the easy access to boosting services or the MMR exploit, Cataclysm was a huge letdown. Although most of all top players agree, that the game mechanics are better than ever before. Add two legendaries and other broken PVE stuff into the mix and it is no wonder, that the scene went stale, „Off topic“ became the most-read area of Arena Junkies and on the official forums things got even worse.

With the introduction of Real ID and war games as well as more players with high-speed internet connections suddenly tournaments became an option and the PVP landscape started to change. Competition was back, not about live ratings and titles, that could be exploited but for the best players in the region or even the world to compete against each others. Also RBGs started to be organized over multiple servers since the latest patch.

With the tournament realm balancing became easier, because tournament organizers did not need to check for hidden pve gear and everyone was on the same playing field. Teams could be created, comps and racials changed like on the original tournaments back in TBC and WotLK. You can also see, that every day new players start writing interesting topics on AJ, more and more players look for help there.

We are now at the end of an expansion, most that can be done has been seen. This is a time to prepare for what is coming with the new expansion Mists of Pandaria. The tournament realm will be extended to work on level 90 with the full new PvP gear. So we will have the chance to watch the best players in the world facing off against each other in a gear-balanced environment. I do not expect balance to be good or no exploits to exist, but expect to see amazing matches, new comps coming up and I have high hopes for monks as a class. They look solid, not overpowered, maybe even a bit weak.

I think the tournament viewership will sky-rocket with the start of MoP and overshadow everything except BlizzCon, that has been done before. We have many organizers, camera men and commentators, that became better and better over the last few months and a hooked up the community, that is actually interested in the results and the games. I know players, that never watched tournaments before, especially because of the bad times in Europe (middle of the night) and the lack of videos to watch what happened later on.

My readers know me to get excited, once I have an idea in my head, so I decided to ask Rasen, some questions, who is known to be the most insightful poster on the official WoW PVP forums in Europe.

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Hildegard: Rasen, you read this blog, as someone following the PVP scene for quite some time, what are your thoughts?

Rasen: Well firstly, just a small correction, not really that important, but you couldn't change races on the original TBC tournaments, you were locked to playing a specific race, like all warlocks had to be Orc female for example.
Anyway about the content, I think honestly think that if Blizzard are going to make a permanent TR like you think they need to basically balance it on those realms, even if it means making balance changes which only effect that realm and nowhere else
Which I'm not sure Blizzard will actually do, but considering the state of live realms (filled with mass corruption) nobody really takes them seriously anymore. It just turned into a way for kids to make money instead of getting a job.
But I believe this would be the best thing for Blizzard as well, it's far easier to balance things when you know what gear people are going to be using, the high rated PvP community as a whole doesn't care about gear, some do, the vast majority of them don't, so if they made the TR permanent than actually do small balance changes here and there than you can get rid of a large amount of the complaining that happens about PvP.
They make the community much happier and WoW can only benefit from that. The more balanced it is the more people who will want to watch, eventually you'd have organizers of bigger organizations than just player-run events coming and wanting to pick it up. As it would already have an audience, a stable way of running tournaments and a history of successful tournaments.

Hildegard: Did you notice any change in the forums, since the tournaments started with the latest patch?

Rasen: There has definitely been more activity since the tournaments started, people seem more interested in talking about PvP again, whereas there is still the usually complaining and that probably will never disappear there has been more constructive posts and more "Well I watched NAO yesterday and X class did well, whereas everyone through that class was awful so maybe I can do better if I tried", basically when you can see people of specific classes doing well which are considered weak on live than it can inspire people to do better themselves.
When the vast majority of the high rated community are just complaining about the "game being shit" that filters through to the entire community.
When people aren't complaining (Balance is still bad, but the tournaments can sometimes put balance on a backseat even if you still hear about "oh look its 7 shaman/lock teams lololol", when the games are good, and for the most part they have been good, than people are more willing to forgive balance problems when they are having fun.

Hildegard: You are one of the very few high-rated players, that frequent the official forums, while others simply bash on the players writing there. How come?

Rasen: That's just my personality, I generally prefer to avoid drama and things of that nature, which is basically all AJ has been about for some time now, so I stopped going to that site. I also have many friends who post there so generally most of the posts are just having fun and than every so often I'll have an issue I want to bring up where I'll make a "serious" post.
And I guess I like helping people, so if someone makes a post there I can help them, whereas there are many people who can help someone on AJ (although the vast majority of the community simple ignore that forum completely) so they are likely to find better help from someone who plays their class.

Hildegard: Would consider visiting AJ more often if the community further improves there?

Rasen: Well the thing about that is it's not just the drama nature of the community there are a lot of things I do not like about most high rated players, the willingness to cheat is a big one, I'm a very honest player and I don't change that just because of the anonymity of the internet, I don't believe something is worth "achieving" (example being a R1 title) though illegitimate means, something the community doesn't seem to have any issue whatsoever with
So I don't know, there would have to be a lot of changes for me to consider AJ being worthwhile again

Hildegard: Thank you for your time Rasen. Keep it up, I love reading your posts and I actually bookmarked the official PVP forums because of you.

Official forums: http://eu.battle.net.../forum/2265987/
Rasen: http://eu.battle.net...le/Rasen/simple
AJ profile: http://www.arenajunk.../211013-cakesz/

#3706821 Hoodrych 6

Posted Velcore on 25 May 2012 - 05:25 AM

5x Rank 1, MLG and Blizzcon Regional competitor Hoodrych aka Hr aka "the boss"!

I've always tried to release only quality videos, and this one is no exception. I find cleave videos to be somewhat boring, so it's taken awhile to gather footage to make a decent Cataclysm video. I'm showcasing WLS/WLP on live and the TR. A lot of games were taken from my stream, so I apologize the quality isn't top notch. Hope you enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/hoodrych85 - Hoodrych's channel
http://www.twitch.tv/hoodrychx - Stream Page

#3704997 Flubbah 2

Posted Another on 20 May 2012 - 11:00 PM

people should stop playing d3 and check out this video (haypro ftw)

#3704804 Flubbah 2

Posted flubbah on 20 May 2012 - 02:42 PM

Hey guys,

This is my first movie as restoration Shaman, this video includes footage i recorded while playing on the Arena Tournament Realm against top notch opponents such as Khuna, Mir, Dakkroth ..

I am truely sorry for the quality but it is because those clips were originally coming from my stream's VODs.

Have fun watching!

Here's the link :


Follow me on my stream here:



Fred V & Grafix - Just A Thought (Instrumental)
Just Smile For Me (Original Mix) (feat. Bobbie Gordon) - Bondax
Get Out My Head - Redlight
Volta Bureau - Alley Cat HD
Dirty South & Thomas Gold - Alive (QBIG Remix)
Future Prophecies: September
James Deano Freestyle Give me 5 prod

Shoutout to Sparkuggz who made this movie possible ! <3

Yassine t'es mon gars sur

#3704048 Båten 1

Posted Megan89 on 17 May 2012 - 09:36 PM

Hola TEAM SWE! :duckers:

#3702745 Båten 1

Posted Libyanator on 14 May 2012 - 10:24 AM

I really don't care much for sharing my opinion on these boards, but my stream isn't showing up anymore on the stream section so i wanted that fixed, but making another account doesn't fix it since i need to delete my stream from my old one which doesn't work if you're banned.

Ps. how did you become Mod again after the wintrading allegations (Not to mention you said yourself you wanted voluntarily "drop out" of being mod on this site")

i like how you're derailing the thread as well, but yes, thankfully i just finished my last exam of uni so i've got more free time i suppose to play more.

#3702038 How to stop DDOS'ing by Vladimyur

Posted Vladimyur on 12 May 2012 - 10:01 PM

Hello all,
I am Vladimyur. Iam young man with leg like forrest gump and wing like big phoenix. I am veteren hacker. I come today to teach all how to stop DDOS.

Step 1)
First of all you must get out a webcam or phone camera like Nokia.
Step 2)
Secondly you must place shoe securely on head.
Step 3)
Use the photo taking option on your device to take photo.
Step 4)
Send the picture to Vladimyur on Skype. Username: vladimyur

Notable examples
Woundman and his Girlfriend:
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Vladimyur has since given these streamers ddos immunity.

#3701714 Yaspresents 3v3 Tournament - 6900$ in prizes!

Posted Dakkrothy on 12 May 2012 - 01:57 AM

@ the people who experienced lag during the streamsession; check out the VoDs at twitch.tv/yaspresent I just did myself and I did not experience any lag at all.

Just wanna add that I felt like this tourny was very well cordinated by the people behind the scenes, Good pace throughout the whole session(few delays because of DDoS only), outstanding commentating by Azeal and zunniyaki and the competition was good as well - speaking as both a participater & viewer.

Need more of those in EU - its a friggin shame some of the US players and vice versa when EU plays in US might feel slight to aweful delay at times though. The only thing that can top these kind of tournaments would obviously be a LAN! So with the tournaments rolling we'll hopefuly see one of those in the future.

and ofc a big thanks to Yaspresents for making this happening

#3698642 Yaspresents 3v3 Tournament - 6900$ in prizes!

Posted Zunniyaki on 05 May 2012 - 12:50 PM

View PostMENARDI, on 05 May 2012 - 05:48 AM, said:

Stop being a retard.

Everyone is well aware that the arabs running Yaspresents have been buying R1 since S7.

Thats not how it works, get your facts straight before trying to mindlessly prove a point.

As said previously, it is irrelevant with the tournament and the thread, so don't try and act like you know everything and either watch it or don't.

#3696071 Yaspresents 3v3 Tournament - 6900$ in prizes!

Posted Pawzz on 30 April 2012 - 06:25 PM

Yaspresents online 3v3 tournament - 6900$ in prizes.

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The Yäspresents PvP guild on Stormscale - EU is organizing the first ever Yaspresents Online 3v3 Tournament. They are trying to support the World of Warcraft community and make this game more fun and entertaining for everyone. Check out their website which is currently under construction at http://yaspresents.com/ .

Tournament will be streamed here!

GROUP A (May 11th, 7:00-11:30pm CET):
Survival Tactics: Shawir Posted Image, Braindeadly Posted Image, Flubbah Posted Image
Vanguards Cleave: Vanguards Posted Image, Mes Posted Image, Sodah Posted Image
IntroDucing:  Taku Posted Image, Dakkroth Posted Image, Glyptic Posted Image
Baylyfe: Salv Posted Image, Dicegg Posted Image, Hydra Posted Image

GROUP B (May 12th, 7:00-11:30pm CET):
Bleached Bones: Mir Posted Image, Skenz Posted Image, Geru Posted Image
Yas Suprise Effect: Khuna Posted Image, Xandyn Posted Image, Zunniyaki Posted Image
Tag Team Stomp: Talbadar Posted Image, Snutz Posted Image, Cdew Posted Image
Multivites: Abni Posted Image, Maldiva Posted Image, Karvinen Posted Image

  • First place - 4200$
  • Second place - 2100$
  • Third place - 600$
Tournament structure:
Eight invited teams will play in two groups of four teams each. Group phase will be played in round robin format. Top two teams from each group advance to the double elimination phase.
The group phase and semi finals will be a best-of-five. The Grand Finals will be played best-of-seven.

Group A : May 11th, 7:00-11:30pm CET.
Group B : May 12th, 7:00-11:30pm CET.
Semi-Finals and Grand Finals : May 13th, 7:00-11:00pm CET.

Tournament Rules:
  • Any setup with one healer is allowed.
  • No class stacking.
  • The Tournament is played on TR. Any gear that is available on TR is allowed.
  • Teams can change their setup and spec in between each game.
  • The losing team of each match will be able to choose a map that has not already been played. Nagrand Arena will always be played first. In a best of 7 series a map cannot be played twice until all others have been chosen. Ring of Valor is banned.
  • 45 second disconnect rule: If a player disconnects after 45 second mark the game will not be replayed. Please read this guide by Mugemsz to learn how to avoid DDoS. Making a new Skype account is a must for everyone!

#3697517 Arena Junkies Forum Upgrade

Posted Ellonija on 03 May 2012 - 08:44 AM

downgrade back to Posted Image

do eet

#3695522 Teamfind 2.0 is out - now with TR support and a fresh look

Posted Pyrilus on 29 April 2012 - 06:28 PM



Let me know what you think :) (especially stuff that doesn't work or needs to be fixed)

Oh and there's also a facebook page:  http://www.facebook.com/teamfind

#3693666 Moderating and the users.

Posted Blowi on 26 April 2012 - 05:12 PM

Hello friends. I'm not really sure where to start, but I'm a moderator on AJ. I think most of you are aware of this, and I as many others have witnessed a lot of terrible posts on AJ. People messing with a thread, turning it into a huge discussion about the new thing which is good to hate on, people posting youtube videos with no intentions other than being a dick and watch their own posts. I'm really sick and tired of people creating threads with the only purpose to hurt someone over the internet, such as linking pictures of families, a girlfriend or boyfriend, and posting IRL information.

I love the social part of gaming which is why I'm still on Skype mostly everyday, talking to the friends I've met through WoW, but when I see personal attacks, I turn into a sad panda, and I'm tired of being sad.

Therefore, I'll try to make this as clear as possible, but if I see threads such as the thread toward filo which served no purpose other than people with nothing better to do than attack others, I'll strike down on them, and it's going to be hard. It stops now.

I mean, it's not everyone who still plays this game, but that doesn't mean people should be allowed to do as they please on a gaming forum. Now, I understand the urge to hate for fun in a BG forum at times, but we're on a whole new level of sad when you purposely derail a thread of someone who released a video, or create a thread just to attack an individual.

Also, I hope most people here can understand where I come from when I'm making this thread. I spend my free time to moderate AJ, and it's impossible to always be around when someone decides to stir things up, but please - report posts from people flaming, bashing, pointless threads and whatnot. Within reason of course. Surely you want a forum without this hostile attitude.

I'm posting this in General Discussion as it's where most people read the forums, and I'm willing to hear inputs, so either PM me on AJ or post in this thread. I'll edit the thread if move comes to mind, since this was pretty much a spontaneous thread.

Have a good evening all.

#3690917 Original 1 - THE MOVIE

Posted hirtqt on 23 April 2012 - 02:46 AM

can i have some rep please

#3690811 Original 1 - THE MOVIE

Posted Zaephyr on 23 April 2012 - 12:56 AM

Bet I can get more rep than shawir by saying

"Shawir's a cock"