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In Topic: PHDK Strengths and Weaknesses

12 July 2014 - 01:40 AM

View PostDillypoo, on 11 July 2014 - 07:05 PM, said:

Oh gosh some of this is very wrong. I've played PriestHD so much this season as well as the other forms of hunter dk x so I will give you pretty much every strat you need OP. So, assuming you have a priest healer you actually are going to do this:

Vs WMD: you aren't going to wyvern warrior much, you're actually just going to asphix the druid whenever you can and after that you can just wyvern trap if your priest cannot get a fear off that asphix in the opener(this will apply to almost every mage druid team). Tunnel mage as hard as possible, trapping off scatters/asphixiates is actually bad mostly with priest because of how your cc chains will work out, it makes it more awkward for priest to get fears, and it is very important you just enable your priest to get as many fears as possible.

Vs Godcomp: Okay spriest is actually your best target for this match up, we used to go mage a lot, but have found spriest is the best kill target. Hunter DK X just destroys shadow priests, a good mage is going to kite the fuck out of you. Usually what we'll do is if they prehot the shit out of the shadowpriest, we'll hit the mage for a couple seconds but not pop any cds at all onto him, and then we'll swap to the shadow priest with everything as soon as we get cc onto the druid so he can't get any hots out. Basically just garg crows rapid fire and just go fucking ham as hell into the shadow priest. You can either start your cc chain with wyvern>trap or asphix>wyvern. I've got a couple vods of the match up here as well for you to watch how we play it out: http://www.twitch.tv...poo69/c/4539688

Vs Beastcleave: If they have a hpriest healer, you will train the enhance shaman as hard as you possibly can with everything into that priest. It's a rough match up and straight forward but you just need to go as aggro as possible. If they have a monk healer, type /afk, you will never ever ever ever win if they slightly know what they are doig. Hunter is the best target vs monk variant, but it's just incredibly hard for you to get a kill. Monk beast is one of your absolute counters are far as cleaves go.

LSD: You need to train the Ele shaman into the ground. Get fears off of cd, and you just need to play as aggressive as you can. Keep running at that ele and eventually you will score a kill against them. It can take a while, but you're going to have to be patient, and never sacrifice your offensive pressure. Go spirit bond as the hunter to help you against their rotting.

TSG: Somewhat annoying, but you can beat it as long as you have a priest healer. Make sure he gets fears on cd on the healer (Half of this comp is making sure you enable your priest to get fears as much as possible). Run at the warrior for days and hope for a kill. This match up is alright.

Anyways overall just the strengths of this comp is it's crazy offensive pressure, and it's weaknesses is that it's extremely linear and straightforward, you can't really change up your strategies too much because you are too limited in what you can do to win. If you ever lose your pressure and get forced defensive by another team, you will most likely lose the match. Go ham niggie.

P.S. If you have any more questions about this comp and match ups, feel free to ask me in this thread, on my arena junkies profile, or in game. Good luck ^^

That's very insightful. I appreciate your response, especially considering that you're currently running the comp itself.

I am indeed playing with a Priest. So far, so good. We're working a bit more on our positioning, as my traps are often soaked up, but I believe that is more relative to the chain we're running. Simply put, it's not working.

Fears have been particularly challenging for our Priest, but with your input I'm confident we can change things up drastically as far as the outcome of these games go.

WMD - Most of the Mages we face do indeed kite the living hell out of us, and so we generally swap constantly between the two, and often force a Block early, and a Shield Wall shortly thereafter, but the Druid seems to prove difficult to reach in some cases. I think we're a little counterproductive with this comp because we're a little defensive, as opposed to just running right through them, so to speak.

Godcomp - We typically ride Mage and force a Block, often times without cooldowns, and quickly bring down the Priest, but I feel my own positioning is often poor with this comp, as I'm constantly feared while, but only because we tend to stick more to the Mage than Priest. I will be sure to check out your gameplay as well, because we're looking to get the show on the road, although we're a new team, so that can in fact pose challenges to communication it seems.

Beastcleave - We've almost always gone Enhance, and have typically been quite successful in doing so, but lately we've been swapping to Hunter and dropping it without too much of an issue. The damage dealt by this comp is ridiculous. I'm often dead if we've not managed to win after the third Asphyx it seems. As far as the Healer goes, it's typically been anything but a Monk, thankfully.

LSD - I've been noticing that SB really does make a bit of a difference here. We're almost always on the Ele, but have swapped on many occasions to the Lock and done fairly well. It appears to be a 50/50 though. Those Fears are annoying as shit. I think we may even be a little over aggressive, with a lack of LoS at times due to the added pressure of the Lock.

TSG - We're not too shabby with these guys, but the pressure dealt is immense. I often lay Explosive to peel them off me, but that doesn't always prove to do too much. I used to Freezing/Explosive the Healer in most cases, but have found that it has been helping with this comp a bit. I've also toggled between Snake, which does seem to do the trick more often than not. Even when I MC, their gap closers are fucking crazy. Our biggest problem thus far is that we're generally going DK more so than War. We'll definitely change that up.

We definitely need to play far more aggressively in most cases. We've got some work to do there. I will certainly be in touch with you as I'm doing my very best to absorb as much info as I can. I'd be ecstatic if we managed to push 2.2K this season, period. For the first time I feel like I'm playing with the right players, but we need to add and subtract a few things if you know what I mean?

Once again, thank you for your time!