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#4367144 Have some fun why not ?

Posted Shock1911 on 21 January 2015 - 11:09 PM

Just posting this because many doesn't seem to be using it enough , right now as we know items scale to 590 in 90-99 BGs & Skirmishes . Retarded old school items scale too and their proc scales too.

I am talking about blues / epics with retarded procs like

Dark Iron Pulverizer   Chance on hit: Stuns target for 8 sec.  low proc

Dazzling Longsword Chance on hit: Decrease the armor of the target by 952 for 30 sec.  While affected, the target cannot stealth or turn invisible. procs alot

Bloodrazor  Chance on hit: Wounds the target causing them to bleed for 1000 damage over 30 sec. procs alot

Those are the ones i found in front of me , I am sure i am forgetting a lot more retarded  items . Feel free to post yours. It is super fun leveling with in bgs / skirmishes with items like those.

Edit:

Malown's Slam  Chance on hit: Knocks target silly for 2 sec and increases Strength by 50 for 30 sec.  
( No DR procs ALOT )

Earthshaker Chance on hit: Knocks down all nearby enemies for 3 sec.   ( No DR procs ALOT  but i haven't tested this one )

Pendulum of Doom  Chance on hit: Delivers a fatal wound for xx damage.   ( Speed 3.90 Slowest weapon in the game i believe )

Ravager  Chance on hit: You attack all nearby enemies for 9 sec causing weapon damage plus an additional x every 3 sec.  ( 2x these and you have bladestorm 24/7 on fury , the item is from old SM removed from the game atm )


#4373897 RBG Tournament: Battle of the Atlantic Worlds Reveal Show

Posted Bigmoran on 27 January 2015 - 05:30 PM

It's actually quite disgusting to read a lot of these posts.

For one thing, RBGs are significantly more complex than arenas. Team fights involve the exact same mechanics that are used in 3v3. There is cross CC, swapping, peeling, pulling back, pushing in, etc. Meanwhile there are multiple smaller game decisions being made on spot--who to send to what base, who is going to float where, when are we going to push O, and so on. It is really a mentally engaging experience. When two top teams face each other, it is literally a battle of wits for 20 minutes straight.

I don't know why there is such a stigma in this community against them. DDOSing is as common in RBGs as it is in 3v3 arena. DDOSing and exploiting at the highest levels is almost nonexistant.

Stop being so toxic and help promote an event that the community en mass can actually enjoy.


#4374494 dancing with the stars (melby&alessia) vs lsd

Posted Mehhx on 28 January 2015 - 06:00 AM

high rated rog boomkin disc (melby & alessia) vs lsd (zeepey loony namqt)
raw gameplay, zero editing
skype included

video had to be uploaded in 2 parts unfortunately ;

part1: https://www.youtube....h?v=2oTmiTba6Tg

part2: https://www.youtube....h?v=B7uAKPC0Fw8

all credit goes to the prince of persia and his wonderful ability to sniff an opening for a sap


#4319163 Frost DK Research and Stat Facts (Patch 6.2)

Posted Flakkar on 26 December 2014 - 10:05 PM

*** UPDATED FOR 6.2 ***

Hi everyone,

Here we go again folks! It's about time for the 6.2 version. Everything is different now and 2h is taking the back seat while DW appears to be the best early in the season with amazing sustained pressure and the ability to mow plate wearers into the ground!

TLDR: See my 6.2 frost stat priority and gear suggestion at the bottom.

Change History:
Jan 13, 2015 - Haste rating effect buffed by 11.1%, Icy Talons buffed to 20% haste, up from 5%. Note that tooltips in the game are not updated yet (possibly requires a client patch), but I can confirm the changes are live due to seeing them on my stat sheet. See edits in green throughout the post.
July 12, 2015 - Updated for 6.2. See edits in blue throughout the post!

Special Notes:
(*) means I assume it's correct if not bugged but I didn't test it. I'll put this next to things I take for granted.
(**) means I actually tested this to prove that it is indeed this way. For brevity, I didn't outline how, but I can if requested.
(?) means I'm not sure, but if someone could test this somehow, it would be great

Let's start with seconday stat ratings and how much damage they contribute.

Rating points required for 1% increase (** tested this myself):
Haste 90
Crit 110
Multistrike(MS) 66
Mastery(MA) 55
Versatility(Vers) 130

Let's take a realistic but nice looking number of how much of each stat you could stack, say 1000 rating points.

For 1000 rating points you would get:
11.1% Haste
9.09% Crit
15.15% MS
18.18% MA
7.69% Vers
In addition, most stats scale linearly with the exception of stats that add flat % bonus damage ( Versatility and Mastery), which become more and more powerful as you add other stats.

NOTE: Crit and MS are nerfed in PvP! This may be obvious to some, but a lot of people don't take this into account when calculating stat priorities! Each Crit does 150% damage instead of 200%, and there is only one chance at a 30% MS instead of two chances. This also applies to heals!

Taking the nerfs into account, let's do an average damage increase you would get from each stat if you stacked 1000 rating worth. I will not account for burstiness here, because getting a string of lucky crits of multistrikes can always happen, but it will even out in the end, and you don't want to rely on pure luck to win arena matches.

Haste (13.86% (given infinite uptime) DPS increase per 1000 rating points):
Haste is a good stat for frost and provides excellent boosts to sustained DPS. Here's why:
Icy Talons(10% and 20%) and Unholy Aura(5%) apply multiplicatively, all haste you equip is getting multiplied by 1.1*1.20*1.05 = 1.386.

Let's take an example:
I have 15.50% base haste with nothing equipped. Icy Talons gives 10% flat, plus an additional 10% modifier on every other haste effect except Unholy Aura for some reason. Unholy Aura gives 5% flat, plus an additional 5% modifier on every other haste effect. This gives 10 (icy talons) + 5 (unholy aura) + 10*0.05 (unholy aura bonus to icy talons base 10%) = 15.50. I am an NE so I get 1% Haste at night, but I did this test during the day where I did not have that 1% buff to Haste. I also did the test at night and the numbers I see are consistent.

Icy Talons (recently buffed) also adds 20% more of the equipped haste stat.

When you add Unholy presence on top, it adds yet another factor, multiplying (not adding to) every source of haste by another 10 or 20% (depending on spec), as well as adding its own 10 or 20% base amount.

1000 Haste rating / 90 pts per % rating * 1.386% extra for Frost DKs = 15.4% Haste, but let's use 15% for the sake of example since it's a nicer number.
  • 15% haste means 15% faster attack speed, which means 15% more auto-attack damage (**).
  • 15% haste also means 15% more Killing Machine (KM) procs (**) due to increased attack speed.
  • 15% haste also means 15% faster rune regeneration (**), meaning that (for ex) over 100 seconds, a rune would fully cycle 11.5 times instead of 10 if you depleted it instantly every time it came back.
  • Haste does NOT affect the GCD because it's already capped at 1 second (**).
  • Haste does NOT affect diseases (**).
  • Haste does NOT affect Conversion, or Breath of Sindragosa (BoS), or any skill that says it ticks "every X seconds".
It's tempting to think that haste offers a 15.4% DPS increase, but there's a couple things to note.
  • Haste does not fully kick in immediately once you start attacking. At first you will get faster auto-attacks, so about 2.6-3 seconds after you attack, you will get a second auto-attack that will be sooner with more haste. But after that, it will take around 7 seconds for runes to start coming back due to higher haste.
  • Haste does not affect diseases. From my tests, diseases seem to compose at most 10% of my DPS. I don't personally think it's worth noting spread damage from having it on multiple targets as Frost spec. The damage is so pitiful that it will not factor into you winning games. You are not a rot spec.
  • Haste does not affect the GCD.
  • Haste does not affect Breath of Sindragosa while it's up, so it will not make it burst faster. However, it will make your runes come back faster, which might allow BoS to stay up longer due to the extra runic power you will have. This only applies for 2h because BoS is bad as DW.
  • Haste can at most affect the recharge of 3 runes simultaneously. If you don't have one rune of each type depleted, then Haste's contribution is being reduced. If you have 2 runes recharging, then you're getting 66.7% of Haste's effect. One rune is 33.3% etc.
  • Haste is uptime dependent. (See below for uptime explanation) This means that if you can't keep one of each rune type constantly on cooldown, then you won't get all of its DPS increase.
  • Haste also adds some utility because you will be able to use Icy Touch more often for purges, plus more uses of Chains of Ice, and you will have more RP for interrupts, Conversion, and Dark Simulacrum.
  • I also see a lot of people saying that if you have a crappy connection, Haste is worse. This may be real if you lose some time after runes come off cooldown. Try switching to Unholy presence and feel the effects of 10% more haste. Imagine that effect in Frost presence where you don't lose the RP gen, and see if it would be better for you.
  • There is concern that there's such thing as too much haste. This is true to an extent. As you stack more and more haste, Versatility and Mastery (DW only) become more powerful, so you don't want to stack haste. You just want some of it.  
So to conclude: 1000 points of haste gives roughly 13.86% DPS increase (1.54% lost due to not affecting diseases) if you have infinite uptime. In reality, this isn't going to happen, but it's extremely unlikely that you will not have at least a few runes on cooldown, which is enough to get lots of benefit from Haste. In addition, since Versatility and Mastery (DW only) scale better with more gear they will outpace Haste eventually. They also contribute to burstiness whereas Haste only lets you burst more often.

Crit (3.64% DPS increase per 1000 rating points):
Yes, Crit is really bad, and probably the worst stat for Frost, including DW. Here's why.
1000 rating / 110 rating per % = 9.09 Crit chance for 1000 rating.
So we are adding a 9.09% chance to do 50% additional damage, meaning on every attack that can crit we are adding 4.545% damage.
  • Diseases can Crit! Actually all damage a DK does can Crit! (*)
  • But there's a catch: Killing Machine. KM guaranteed Crits means the your Crit is useless when KM procs! Based on my tests, about half of my Oblits and Frost Strikes are used when KM is up. If you are really good at managing your resources, it might be more than half, but let's assume half for now. On my tests, my Frost Strikes and Oblits (2h or DW) combined do between 40-50% of my overall damage no matter if I'm bursting, or just normally DPSing. So that means that if half my oblierates/frost strikes don't use KM, then my Crit is not being used half the time, so the real Crit contribution is more around 4.545% * 80% = 3.64%.
Multistrike (4.545% DPS increase per 1000 rating points):
As Blizzard themselves have said, Crit and MS are equal, even in PvP.
1000 rating / 66 rating per % = 15.15% MS chance for 1000 rating.
So we are adding an 15.15% chance to do 30% additional damage, so by simple math: 15.15% * 30% = 4.545% damage increase.
  • Every attack can MS, including diseases. I am not sure if Death Strike healing can MS (?), but I am pretty sure that Conversion cannot (?).
  • Multistrikes can crit! And KM procs (if they proc MS), will automatically Crit on the MS proc.
Mastery (~12.2% for DW, (~6% for 2h) DPS increase per 1000 rating points):
For 2h Mastery is kinda weird and hard to calculate, but it proved to be pretty crap in 6.1. Now in 6.2, DW is heavily favored due to the savage buffs to Frost Strike and Howling Blast. So much so, that Mastery is easily the best stat for DW.

1000 rating / 55 rating per % = 18.18% Mastery for 1000 rating.
  • This means 18% increased Frost and Shadowfrost damage (**). But how much of our damage is actually Frost or Shadowfrost?
  • For 2h: According to my tests, I get between 25-40% Frost damage (when doing regular dps), averaging around 33%. Strangely enough, this applies even when doing crazy burst with BoS, because you are not using Frost Strike.
  • For 2h: So therefore 18.18% * 33% = ~6% damage increase per 1000 Mastery. This beats Crit and MS assuming at least 25% of your damage is Frost or Shadowfrost, which is a pretty safe assumption.
  • For DW: According to my tests, I get between 67-70% Frost or Shadowfrost damage (when doing regular dps).
  • For DW: Therefore 18.18% * 67% = ~12.2% damage increase per 1000 Mastery.
Versatility (7.69% DPS increase per 1000 rating points):
This is the easiest one to calculate. This is a great stat because it offers healing and defense bonuses.
1000 rating / 130 rating per % = 7.69% Versatility for 1000 rating.
  • 7.69% Versatility means 7.69% more damage across the board on all damage DKs do (*).
  • 7.69% Versatility means 7.69% more healing on Deathstrike, and other heals that are not %life based. Versatility does not increase Conversion healing!(**)
  • 7.69% Versatility also means 3.85% less damage taken from all sources (*).
Some ugly facts I found while testing:
  • The PvP target dummy at the Glad Sanctum takes double damage from crits instead of 50% more - probably a bug. Multistrikes are also causing 2 strikes instead of 1.
Strength:
I didn't test anything for Strength, but it almost never overlaps with secondary stats, so not much to discuss here. Even if it does, Str gets so many insane %-based bonuses from DK passives and procs that it easily outdoes the other stats (*).

Putting it all together:
  • All the numbers are for 1000 rating in isolation. Some may wonder if it changes when you throw all the stats together and in different amounts. It does make a difference for % damage increase stats like Mastery and Versatility, but you need thousands of rating points to see a difference. I once graphed it out and found the sweet spots and everything, but it's not worth showing here. I think the conclusion is: stack % damage stats and just get some of the rest while avoiding crappy stats like Crit.
  • Strengh is most likely the best stat in all cases, unless someone can prove otherwise.
  • For 2H: Haste and Versatility are both really good. Haste is better in terms of pure math, but Vers benefits your early burst more (i.e. the first 7-8 seconds of DPS after starting with full runes). We are looking at 13.86% more DPS (but not in the first few seconds of damage) vs 7.69% more DPS (active at all times). Haste's benefits will only fully start showing up after runes start coming off cooldown. During the initial burst, you will only gain the increased auto-attacks and KM procs. Versatility does have the healing and damage reduction benefits, though they are less important for DKs compared to the damage benefit, and Haste has some built-in survivability too due to the rune regen for Death Strike, and extra RP for Conversion. This could make a great discussion to see which is better, Haste or Vers. Looking at the DK gear though, it looks like you can usually get them both together. If your connection sucks, or you think that Haste feels worse when you play, go for Vers since it is by far the best other choice.
  • For DW: Mastery is hands down the best, followed by Versatility due to the % damage increase nature. Crit and MS remain crap, and Haste is somwhere in the middle. Haste is nice to have, but not nice to stack.
  • I have studied the uptime requirements of Haste and here's what I see: you are getting 100% of Haste's effect if you constantly have at least one rune of each type on cooldown. That is, you must have at least 1 death rune, 1 frost rune, and 1 unholy rune on cooldown. Haste also increases autoattack speed, but most of the benefit is in the runes, not the autoattack. It's probably common knowledge that only one rune of each type can be recharging at a time (if not, see Haste section above). Haste DPS is only worse than Versatility if you are sitting on two runes of the same type two rune pairs for a significant period of time. I have been checking my runes for a few weeks now, and I am almost never sitting on two rune pairs while in combat (except at the beginning when all runes are up, but it takes only 1 GCD to put enough runes on cooldown). Even if you're kited, you are still using icy touch for purges (thanks Scoot), chains of ice, howling blast, etc and using up those runes.
  • There is no doubt that for 2H, Vers is better for bursting. Haste doesn't help you much if you're blowing ERW and Plague Leech.
  • Crit is flat out the worst from the numbers.
Stat Priority:
So the stat prio for 6.2 DW Frost in my opinion is the following ('>>' means much better).
Str >> MA >> Vers > Haste > MS >> Crit

The stat prio for 6.2 2h Frost remains:
Str >> Vers > Haste > MS >= Mastery >> Crit

Gear Selection:

Go DW this season. The pressure it puts out is unreal! Hope they don't nerf it...
Here is my best attempt at putting together a gearset that satisfies the above.


Note: For DW I'm recommending the 4 piece bonus, but I'm not 100% sure that it's the way to go. You gain 10% more frost damage, but you're trading around 5-6% DPS and 1% damage reduction for it. If it turns out that 4 piece bonus uptime isn't close to 100% during bursts (uptime seems pretty good from my experience), then we should ditch all the set pieces and stack mastery.

Armor option 1: 4 set pieces
Helm: Set helm
Chest: MA/Vers
Shoulders: Set shoulders
Gloves: Set gloves
Legs: Set pants


Armor option 2: 2 set pieces
Helm: MS/MA
Chest: MA/Vers
Shoulders: Set shoulders
Gloves: MA/Haste
Legs: MA/Haste (you can take the MA/Vers pants but haste is really low with this setup so I prefer the Haste)

Accessories:
Boots: MA/MS
Belt: Vers/MA
Bracer: MA/Haste
Neck: MA/Crit
Cloak: MA/Haste
Ring1: MS/Haste
Ring2: MA/Crit
Trinket1: Str with on use Vers
Trinket2: If human the alternate Str trinket or Vers+proc Str one. If any other race, the 800 Vers stun breaker trinket.
Enchants: Mastery

Weapon Enchants: Fallen Crusader mainhand, Razorice offhand

Final projected bonuses:
+8.4% MS option 1, +12.7% option 2
+43.3% MA option 1, +47.2% option 2
+11.5% Vers option 1, +13.5% Vers option 2 (with 800 Vers trinket)
+7.4% Crit option 1, +2.9% option 2
+15.5% Haste option 1, +11.1% option 2



#4354131 How I dodge 50-60% of hunter traps.

Posted Pitiless on 13 January 2015 - 03:22 AM

I've been dodging traps with treants since day 1 of wod tbh.  How can they even CC you when they don't know which one is you???

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#4353981 How I dodge 50-60% of hunter traps.

Posted Gymtanx on 13 January 2015 - 01:49 AM

Holy crap I had no idea thottbot was still around


#4354359 12/01/2015 Hotfixes

Posted Charred on 13 January 2015 - 04:32 AM

View PostSnookypoo, on 13 January 2015 - 04:30 AM, said:

Fucking EU is so weird I thought this was about December 1st 2015

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#4291935 Balance Druid Guide

Posted fuzzbox303 on 10 December 2014 - 04:16 AM

The most successful humans build upon, and assimilate the expertise of others. The fact that Tom is asking for other skilled boomies to contribute suggests that this guide is born out of intention of helping people, not an egotistical exercise in self gratification.

Good on your for being humble enough to ask for contributions. Completely ignore the irrelevant cynicism. Looking forward to reading your guide mate.


#4258195 BlizzCon® 2014 Opening Ceremony and eSports – Free Live Streams

Posted Abidalzim on 08 November 2014 - 10:17 PM

Who would have thought it'd ever happen...

boomkin won a blizzcon lol.


#4257913 BlizzCon® 2014 Opening Ceremony and eSports – Free Live Streams

Posted Phatxyo on 08 November 2014 - 08:58 PM

View Postjaimex, on 08 November 2014 - 08:56 PM, said:

someone who has faced both those teams many times

and that automatically gives you the right to call everyone random duelists? get your head out of your ass


#4252756 S16 on December 2

Posted Hartley on 04 November 2014 - 04:10 PM

At least it gives some time for people who actually have lives to level up.


#4251766 Anyone else get these yet?

Posted Vengeful95 on 03 November 2014 - 09:05 PM

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#4230535 What is that garrison in WoD ?

Posted ysnakewoo on 13 October 2014 - 03:11 PM

Basically, Garrisons are kinda necessary, you have 3 levels of Garrisons and you pay everything in gold. With Blizzard's policy of giving every mongoloid a golden medal, WoD brings in quite a bit of cash (for 90-100 leveling it is estimated you are going to get around 6-8k gold).

Garrisons mean that you can "power-level" your professions, you can also use the professions (even if you do not have them) in the sense of WoD - for example, if you have the Enchanter's house, you can DE all of the items from WoD and get the raw materials from them, however, you can only do that for WoD items, you need an "actual" Enchanter to get Spirit or Hypnotic Dust etc.

You can also have a "mine" or a "garden" for the two main gathering professions, namely mining and herbalism. You will slowly get materials that you want (you can put seeds for X herb - I believe you can only gather WoD herbs), same goes for mining, you just send your slaves to mine for you. However, you can't really "farm" this way, so actual gathering will still be top-priority, but there will be no flying mounts throughout the expansion - or at least, none of them have been announced and Blizzard is still contemplating on that idea.

You will need to acquire workers for your farm, and they will bring in special abilities or something like that. I haven't been really reading on that, but expect a guide on what workers would suit your thing the best on PvE hero websites.

Sorry for starting every paragraph with "you" - You can send your workers in Garrison to do various daily quests, from simple dailies onto 5man instances over to transmog runs to full-out raids (you need level 3 Garrison for this), and the loot is guaranteed, however, 5man instances take a day, transmog runs take up to 3 days and full-out raids take 7 days. I believe you can only do this for the old content, not sure. Also, you can do that with your guildies and your guildies' Garrison, so a couple of you can send your Garrison forces to do X raid and get items from it.

You can have an Inn in your Garrison and have up to 3 (I believe) portals to almost anywhere (this might be only applicable to the WoD zones, not sure), so, expect people to camp in their precious little Garrisons.

That's all there is to know about Garrison, if I am wrong, feel free to correct me, I didn't pay that much attention to it, but I wouldn't worry about the "cost" or "complexity" of Garrisons since they are one of the main selling-points for WoD - so they'll make them accessible to all the retards out there.

TL;DR Pandas brought Pokemons, Warlords brought Sims.


#4225939 The 8 Teams for Blizzcon

Posted Pinka on 07 October 2014 - 12:41 AM

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#4225012 US WoW Arena Tournament Stream Discussion Thread

Posted Kettu on 05 October 2014 - 10:52 PM

Meanwhile at Blizzard HQ

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