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#4515309 The events of EU Regionals

Posted Infernion on 06 October 2015 - 02:08 PM

Hey everyone!

I've been reading a lot of stuff on the forums about the things that went down at the EU regionals this weekend, and I was thinking people would like some clarification/update from someone who was actually a part of it, instead of all these rumours.

I'd like to start off by debunking the rumour that Nolifers team supposedly reported Xonika for accountsharing to get him disqualified. The team of Reawakened 1 was in no way responsible for what happened to my team, just like we did not report their team in some pathetic attempt of payback. We respect each other as both players and persons, get along really well and just wanted a fair and exciting tournament.

When we arrived at the hotel thursday, Xonika told our team that he had received an e-mail by Blizzard saying he had gotten a 72-hour suspension on his account for account sharing, which put his account in bad standing for the weekend. Remembering that he had logged his own account from his girlfriends computer earlier that week, he asked his girlfriend to check her e-mail aswell, and just as expected she had also received a warning and what I believe was a message saying she would be ineligible to receive any titles this season.

After having discussed this issue as a team, we thought it'd be best to mention it to the ESL staff to make sure there would be no problem, as it was surely all just a misunderstanding caused by the automatic detector system Blizzard is using to prevent account sharing. The ESL staff told us they would contact Blizzard and thought, just like we did, that this wouldn't be a problem. During thursday and friday we had several conversations with the ESL staff, asking if there was any news on the matter. There wasn't, so we assumed that we would be allowed to participate on the same terms as other teams in the tournament.

When we woke up Friday, we ate some quick breakfast and went to the O2 Arena around 8.30 I believe, as we had to help Blizzard promote the teams better by taking pictures and shooting videos of everyone. This whole process was very poorly organized, and instead of just telling each team when they had to be at the different filming locations so everyone could practice while waiting, we all had to sit and wait in a locker room for several hours.

By the time all teams was done with this entire process consisting of individual and group photos, individual and group filming, filming of the team leaving a limousine, filming of the team walking around and lastly an interview, the time was around 16-17, and we could finally start setting up our characters on the tournament realm and get some practice in.

There was just one big problem with this process though. While the teams this year consisted of 4 players, there was only 3 computers per team. This meant you had to "sacrifice" one player, and basicly prioritize practising your main setup, needless to say that my team prioritized our shatter over our MLS. All the teams played a lot of wargames against each other, and when the clock hit 21, we were told that we had to leave. We left feeling pretty confident that we would place amongst the top 3, as long as we wouldn't choke on stage.

The games saturday was scheduled to start around 12 I believe, which made most teams wake up around 8-9 to get some good practice in before the actual tournament. Blizzard fixed taxis for us to the O2 arena, and upon the arrival we were all pretty pumped for the event, as the amount of people standing in line outside was pretty big (I'm sure people came to watch Heroes of the Storm or Hearthstone). Skipping the line was pretty awesome, and once we got settled we got quite a few of wargames in, once again feeling pretty confident.

Around 11.45, 15 minutes before we were scheduled to play, the top Blizzard employee present came to tell us, that Xonika could possibly be disqualified from the tournament. We tried to explain him the issue, and that it was all just a big misunderstanding, since none of us had been boosting  in the period between the 1st qualifier and regionals. He was super stubborn on the matter, but wanted to make sure no actions was taken that would punish an innocent team, so he decided to double check. 5 minutes before we were supposed to play Blizzard confirmed that Xonika was indeed disqualified, and his pro player badge was confiscated and he was escorted out of the arena. He wasn't even allowed to stay in the arena and watch his team and everyone else play!

While I was explaining to the other teams what was happening, I was told to shut the fuck up, as apparantly I wasn't allowed to do so. The admin was obviously really stressed out and frustrated by the situation aswell, and did come to apologize to me later after the tournament, which I respect him for. It was obviously a heat-of-the-moment kind of thing.

After several players failed attempts at challenging the decision that was made, including our opponents Fewen, Souken, Wafflez and Pyrocta, we realized nothing could be done. At this time me, Froffsy and Livin was pretty demotivated and mad, and Froffsy and Livin didn't even want to try to compete, which I fully understood. We did however go through the options we had, and due to Livin not wanting to set up his druid, we decided for me to set up a holy paladin to play shatter, which I have never played before. Blizzard gave me 20 minutes to do this, meaning I forgot to bind abilities like execution sentence.

The games started, and we lost our first game as shatter vs jungle. A fun fact to mention is that everyone actually lagged out in the end of the game for around 5-10 seconds, but there was no referee behind us to see this, so Blizzard claimed that no one disconnected. People could have used add-ons while playing at the backstage, and Blizzard wouldn't have noticed. The second game Froffsy and Livin wanted to play RMPala with arcane mage, due to no one actually caring at this point, which we obviously lost aswell.

In the meantime of our series, Nolifers team had knocked Fritterus, Cervantes & Cavyx to the losers bracket, meaning that we now had to face them.  We lost in a close series (Kappa) 2-0, and was thrown out of the tournament as 7-8th place. Nolifer now had to face Solari Gaming Yellow, and after having won the first game and being ahead in the series 1-0, there was a break that was prolonged several times. It ended up being around 25 minutes, whereafter Reawakened 1 was told to come meet Blizzard backstage. At this point the tournament was kind of a joke, and people didn't think it could get much worse - They were wrong! Nolifer was told that he was also disqualified. Apparantly Blizzard had been having a meeting since disqualifying Xonika, with some of the heads of their eSports department, and gone through every single player to find out that Nolifer was the only other player who had also done boosts in the time period between the 1st qualifiers and regionals.

Obviously their team was also not satisfied with this decision, and tried to challenge it with no luck. There was actually a lot of teams that tried to have the disqualified teams play in the tournament with no luck. Wafflez, Souken and Fewen even asked the Blizzard admin if all the teams could vote for it, and have them play if the teams would agree. All ideas was shut down.

They chose to drop out of the tournament instead of playing RPD, meaning that Three Languages One Team was no longer in the losers bracket. They had now advanced to the winners Bracket, and had  to face Solari Gaming Yellow. This also meant, that my team was supposed to face Reawakened 1 in the losers bracket instead of TLOT, which we got a free win for as they dropped out. As TLOT won Solari Gaming Yellow in the winners bracket, we had to face Solari Gaming Yellow on the mainstage.

I convinced Livin to set up his druid for us to play MLD, as I figured we maybe had a chance with that setup. This is where it got really funny. Blizzard didn't even show our promotional videos, probably because Xonika was in them. They didn't even mention the disqualification, and actually said that we had been practising MLD for the tournament. I'm sure Venruki, Vhell and Lore was told that it had to be this way, they had to do what they were told of course. I'm pretty sure they even tried to challenge the decision made by Blizzard off-screen, so props to them!

As we didn't really have much time to set up our characters, I forgot to track all enemy debuffs, meaning I couldn't chain any CC in the first game. Livin also forgot glyphs in the first game, aswell as forgetting to bind dispell for both games. It was kind of a disaster, and we ended up losing once again.


On the entire ban situation, I can say with 100% certainty, that Xonika logging his account from his girlfriends computer trigged the investigation of his account. He might not have gotten disqualified only because of him doing this, but it's what caused the investigation. Xonika didn't boost from the 1st qualifier to regionals. We knew that Lagyna had already been disqualified for doing this, why would we take the chance?

The Blizzard admin kept mentioning the fact that they looked into the accounts from the timeperiod between the 1st qualifier and regionals, but Xonika got the suspension for having boosted since the account creation. The rules was very inconsistent, just as they have been during the online qualifications. He was disqualified based on the fact that his account was in bad standing during the tournament.

It amazes me how Blizzard can say that they are 100% sure no other teams boosted in this time period, as we know for a fact that they did. Xonika didn't account share in the time period that was in the rules. If Blizzard was gonna disqualify people for having accountshared since the creation of their accounts, no teams would have been playing at regionals. Literally everyone there has done boosts, and does them every season, meaning they should find some other way to punish the players,  instead of disqualifying them from the only tournament that is held every year.

The question is - What will happen next year? What will happen at Blizzcon? Surely they will have to actually CLEAR players now, else ANYONE could get disqualified the next tournament for having boosted since account  creation.


I know I might sound super salty, and yes, this does indeed suck. But I'm happy for the teams that made it, and I enjoyed the weekend a lot. It was nice to finally get to meet all the players, and we all had a lot of fun, even though the mood took a big hit for some players saturday.

I thought I just wanted to clear all of this up, as Blizzard seems to be trying to hide what happened from everyone. The community deserves to know exactly what went down, which is why I wrote this wall of text that most people will probably not care about.

Once again, congratulations to all the 3 teams that made it, no one should have any hard feelings towards them, this is Blizzards fault. No teams reported each other for account sharing. Remember the fact that they could've qualified either way, it wasn't set in stone who was gonna qualify.

If you have any questions ask them here, and I'll answer them as fast as I can :)

#4512867 what a joke joke joke of a company

Posted Gelu on 03 October 2015 - 02:33 PM

breaking news,
Xonika found playing underneath infernions jacket on the character 'Ripxonika'Posted Image

#4512759 what a joke joke joke of a company

Posted Infernion on 03 October 2015 - 01:58 PM

how do i play holy pala

#4482090 Banwave

Posted Bestpriestjkk on 21 August 2015 - 01:12 PM

View PostAvizura, on 21 August 2015 - 12:27 PM, said:

i got banned also, cant participate in the qualify, gg fucking retarded blizzard
In theory it is actually you thats retarded keepo

#4478234 Blizzcon

Posted dizzcord on 17 August 2015 - 10:11 AM

View PostDizzeeyo, on 17 August 2015 - 10:06 AM, said:

Why, which bit of what he said was inaccurate?

You think i que double healer to help me get glad? lOl?

Heres how it is.

Im to fucking amazing at rogue to que fotm comps like double dps/healer. Its no challenge for me, makes arenas so boring to always win without competition.

So i took up a challenge to play 2vs3 and took the closest random hpal i could find. But you cant sign 3s as 2 players so we needed a third.

I saw this poor 1700 priest in elwynn forest complaining "plz noone wants to play with a disc all fk palas took my partners".

So the good guy i am I told him: "hey kid want free glad? Just join arena and buff up then stand afk"

So here we are. Be glad Im playing with a handicap against you fotm nerds else you would instant cancelsub and I'd have noone to pwn

#4473917 Legion: Glad mounts

Posted Neuromancer on 13 August 2015 - 04:36 AM

Obligatory Nether Drake post. I suppose they could do Fel-infused Nether Drakes. Fel green first season and then that red fan edit 2nd season.


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Posted Melbyz on 16 August 2015 - 02:40 PM

I want them to add so whenever a bad player tries whisper me it says "Sorry you cannot speak to this player because you're too fucking bad"

#4473005 PROOF @hydrahacked

Posted Zaephyr on 11 August 2015 - 04:41 PM









toms the best

#4468475 World of Warcraft: Legion announcement Thread!

Posted Sania on 06 August 2015 - 04:30 PM

The fact that "Dont stop believing" is playing in the background is hilarious as fuck to me.

#4467863 I know how to fix WoW in a few mins, dev come read my thread

Posted Dakkrothy on 06 August 2015 - 07:07 AM

nostalgia truly hides the imperfections of WotLK. The game was broken as hell, the only difference is that the game  itself was defi more fun to play because of more tools to use and well, some would argue that pveing to pvp also was a huge aspect of the game which made it indirectly more fun too.

To bring back some of the oh so not nice memories;

- LSD, fuck lsd, cuz lsd

- ATC (prot warr with like 1-2 resi pieces, hunt, hpala), 1 shot everything while being pretty much immune to dmg for a full min in the start of the game, only the top 3 god comps could beat it.

- GCD hack, some even say people used it for the full duration of the expansion ( BLADEY SHAME ON YOU )

- DKs, a 50% shield wall that made u immune to stuns for 12 sec, with a 1 min cd? WTF? Anti magic shell & anti magic zone ontop of that.

- Hpalas, freedom stuns, while stunned, really?

- Hunters, Stuns periodically by pressing explosive shot, RNG only obviously cuz why not?

- Bladestorm not disarmable, full duration bladestorm would kill you if u didnt have a massive cd to counter it, very little counter play to it at one point if used correctly.

- Double healer warrior, double healer warlock, double healer prot pala, double healer ret - few of many diff double  healer comps that easily could achieve rank 1

I could go on and on and on about the flaws of WotlK, people seem to just mindlessly ignore it tho. Sure it had its peak where there were a lot of comps & classes that were both fun and rewarding to play but dont tell me wotlk was this ideal game where noone cries bout mages or locks, the game was inbalanced as hell from patch to patch.

I think the problem lies with how fun the individual character is, really. I truly wish & hope that blizzard announces a few more abilities for each and every class for the next expansion. Let the feels come back where mages dont seem to have 2x the abilities you have.

just my 2 cents, haters be hatin!

#4466642 WoW Down to 5.6 Million Subscribers

Posted Thaya on 04 August 2015 - 09:40 PM

On a more serious note

Imho this doesn't have to do with just the quality of WoD itself, but also with the core principles and concepts of the game just getting old - PvE and PvP remain largely the same as they were 10 years ago. Raiding is just not very exciting anymore, especially considering how much effort it takes to even get into it. Just committing to a time schedule is a very big deal, let alone everything else that is required from a raider in your average-decent raiding guild. The content itself is even pretty good right now (I've pugged heroic a lot and cleared all of Mythic except end bosses in HM and BRF in my very short time in a raiding guild this expansion, so I'm not talking out of my ass), the class mechanics of the classes I played were really fun to me as well (which is what really kept me going - I just loved to perform the rotations, so I'd pug for fun and shit even when loot locked for everything), but it's just the fact that it's "the same good ol' raiding" that really puts me off. It's just, like, I've been there, done that, gearing up and finding a guild from scratch now? nah, I'll pass, I'll just keep pugging whenever I feel like it, and when that bores me I'll just unsub and be done with it. And this has nothing to do with the quality of content and gameplay itself - that's just the concept itself dying out.

Imagine if they changed something up in at the very core of the game, and delivered a whole chapter of the Warcraft saga via brutally hard solo content? They have all the tools for it - phasing, scenarios... It doesn't necessarily have to be just solo. It could be 3man scenarios (like there were in MoP) and actually HARD 5man content. Imagine actually having to progress in 5man with your buddies, for example, or having to progress through a super long, incredibly hard quest chain that REQUIRES you to gear up in other group activities like 5mans, world raids/events or even small 10man raids (anyone remembers how fun Zul'aman could be in TBC?). Warcraft doesn't have to be just raiding!

The real reason people labeled WoD as a shit expansion isn't the quality of WoD content itself - it's just the lack of content outside of raiding and "the usual shit". Everyone I hear quitting WoW says it's because "I just ran out of shit to do" (note: I'm not talking about PvPers here - that's a whole different subject), and everyone that I know who still plays just raids Mythic with his 3-5 raids/week guild and that keeps him going. THIS is the problem with WoW and largely with WoD - raiding alone is just not enough anymore and I sincerely hope they acknowledge this.

Regarding PvP, they just really need to fix the core issues with the PvP system. The way the ladder and rewards work, for example - I think it's incredibly stupid that the amount of Gladiator and Rank 1 spots is limited. What it leads to is that everyone who cheats or boosts just takes up slots in that system, which in turn makes it harder to get for people who play legit. The moment people realize this (and it's kinda on the surface, really), the whole purpose of setting a rank as a destination point is defeated, and so the incentive to play arena at all just dies. It's an incredibly corrupt and unfair system, why even bother? What is a title worth when you know that like 50% of the other titles aren't even legit, and that a few hundred players (or more) just got cheated out of their titles because of others cheating/boosting?

And I mean, there are much better ways to handle it - look at other games where boosting is a big thing (League, for example) - just the fact that there's shitloads of boosting going on doesn't mean that the individual player can not achieve Diamond. It doesn't feel this way, at least. Of course, boosts pollute the overall matchmaking to some extent, but the game doesn't make you feel like there's a limited amount of Diamond spots and you're being cheated out of some of it every time someone buys a boost, gets into Glad range and just parks at that rating, permanently 'taking' a spot (take a minute here to reflect upon how stupid this actually is btw). It's also very stupid that, unless you were around since week 1 of the season, you're basically permanently 'behind' on gear. Being around on week 1 and making sure you grind out the Conq points every week is a pretty fucking big commitment in year 2015. By the time the catchup mechanic puts everyone on equal terms, it's so late into the season that it's hard to be excited for "starting up".

Regarding "RIP" however, I think the game is very far from dying. Even if they just continue to make quality content without any paradigm shifts, there will still ALWAYS be a few million people who just like to raid, and don't mind doing it. WoW will just stabilize at some plateau of subscriptions and keep making expansions/content just because it's profitable for Blizzard to do so. But I just sincerely hope for more, and this here is my little rant.

#4462874 Stop complaining about 15% healing debuff

Posted Seductions on 30 July 2015 - 08:17 PM

People, specially streamers, need to stop complaining about the 15% healing debuff.
This is one of the few seasons since WotLK that games are super fast and fun.
This 15% debuff is a good thing, without it, warlock and dampening teams just run people over.

There will never be a perfect balance where dampening teams and fast teams can co-exist. Let games be fast rather than 10min dampening fest.

#4465214 EU Qualifiers discussion thread

Posted Hexur on 02 August 2015 - 08:15 PM

best moment

#4461026 Anyone bored? Here, enjoy this video of a very salty mage!

Posted Jim_Jim on 27 July 2015 - 09:03 PM


Everything aside, wish gnomes could be paladins. This is so fucking cute

Please :

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#4444355 Huge DQ/ban wave

Posted Hateformz on 28 June 2015 - 12:31 PM

View PostSickstorybro, on 28 June 2015 - 12:15 PM, said:

people still play this game? :D
nigga relax it's not even been a year since u supposedly quit, u still have a long way to go before u can think about acting all cool & nonchalant about this game