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Posted Mattadoro on 05 March 2014 - 10:16 PM
here he is playing his alt hunter on his engineering mount, i told him no one uses that pet any more but he said hes not Putin it in the stables anytime soon
Posted BalanceRexxar on 21 June 2013 - 01:29 AM
0.0) Additional Help
1.6) Gemming & Enchanting
2.1) Class Synergy
2.2) Monk Comps
2.5) Monk Streams
2.6) Rated Battlegrounds
If there is something I forgot to include in the guide or something I explained poorly feel free to whisper me in game and I'll answer your question, if I don't I'm either in a game and didn't see or afk, if I don't and you have to go you can just send a mail or try when I'm out or not afk.
Toon Name: Balance
Hello there! My name is Steve, in game I am known as Balance. I made this guide for Windwalker monks in 5.3 and 5.4 and am updating it for 5.4.7. I updated it early just because I know not much is changing and am able to foresee what will change and how it will impact what Windwalkers do. Things you should know about me is I love koalas, hence my other monk being named Koalapunch, I got Rank 1 (Duelist) in Season 13 and Rank 1 Gladiator in Season 14. I love to answer questions and appreciate any feedback you give me.
I have been asked a couple times if I have plans on streaming or making youtube videos and the answer is was no because I play on a terribly old computer but I may be getting a computer and may consider streaming, if I ever do decide to start, you can find my Twitch by clicking the logo. If you follow the stream you'll be notified if I go live.
These are your primary damaging abilities. You use jab and expel harm to build Chi to use your other abilities. You use expel harm when you aren't at 100% HP or can't jab anything. You also need to keep Tiger Strikes buff up at all times. You need to use Rising Sun Kick off cooldown. Fists of Fury is situational, you may use it to peel or control. I often use it after a Leg Sweep or Ox Wave for damage and control. It can do a lot of damage when channeling on a single target with stacks of Tigereye Brew up.
- Fists of Fury, Fists of Fury is also a high damage ability but you can stun and entire team with it and they can't trinket it most of the time because you will just re-apply the stun when they do.
- Leg Sweep, Charging Ox Wave, and Ring of Peace Leg Sweep and Charging Ox Wave are just stuns which is a control, Ring of Peace is a AoE disarm and silence.
- Paralysis, Paralysis is one of the best peeling abilities in the game, a ranged 4-6s incapacitate can lock down mages and other classes on their deep freezes, demon soul, shadow dance, and other high damage cooldowns and such instantly.
- Spear Hand Strike, Spear Hand Strike is our kick. I don't recommend using it for the 2 second silence but if you're on a mage who is spamming ice lances into a deep freeze you might as well. It has also proven useful when killing Priests because of their bubble, if they are bubbled at 11% and coming out of a stun I like to use it to try to get them 1% or however much needed lower so I can Touch of Death. I also use this ability on warriors when they are close to 10% coming out of a stun to prevent them from using Rallying Cry so I can touch of death before they get it off. Warning: This ability has a slight delay for when the silence is applied to use it around 0.25-0.5s before you want the actual silence to go on.
- Spinning Fire Blossom, Spinning Fire Blossom without the glyph is a 50 yard range 2 second root if you can land it. It can prove difficult but possible.
- Flying Serpent Kick, Flying Serpent Kick is an AoE 4 second 70% slow, it can be used to slow players. It is one of our high mobility cooldowns so use it wisely.
- Disable, Disable is a spammable slow & root, it is similar to how Improved Hamstring used to work, if they are slowed already when you re-apply it it will root them, you can spam this slowing a lot of people for a long amount of time.
- Grapple Weapon, Grapple Weapon can be used to disarm your opponent, on certain classes it will shut them down. It is a ranged ability making it one of the best disarms in the game.
- Fortifying Brew, this ability can be very useful, if you're facing a team with an execute you can use it to avoid that or just use it before taking large amounts of damage to reduce it, it's basically an Ironbark + a self Rallying Cry on a 3 minute cooldown.
- Detox, I use this ability just about off CD against Death Knight teams to remove their diseases. I also use to to remove rogue poisons like Crippling Poison and Paralytic Poison before stacks are high enough to stun you. The best use of it it to remove Devouring Plague against priests who play Insanity effectively stopping a major part of their burst, another game changing use is to get Wyvern Sting off your teammates so they don't have to trinket.
- Crackling Jade Lightning, this ability is mostly used for fun or to keep people from leaving combat to avoid re-stealths, drinks, etc. It also can get spell reflects from warriors.
- Nimble Brew, It is crucial that if you play a Windwalker monk you have an "out" which is a way to get out of CC to be able to use Touch of Karma or Diffuse Magic. Rotating cooldowns between your trinket and Nimble brew should allow you to always have a way to karma.
- Provoke, This is one of my favorite abilities. Most people see the taunt and think, "Oh it's just PvE." They couldn't be more wrong. Whenever I see a grounding totem down, I taunt. It is off the GCD, has no cost, and destroys it. It also keeps rogues in combat going for stealths or healers going for drinks. It also gets spell reflects and my favorite use for it is to taunt pets. Those pesky hunter pets see me taunt them and chase after me behind a pillar where I then fists of fury it to death. I bolded this because it is the most underused ability by monks.
- Storm, Earth, and Fire, this is another great ability. It has few purposes outside of PvE but it is in fact useful. The primary use to to stop drinks and re-stealths from healers and rogues. By the time a rogue or healer gets it off them it's been a good long while and the re-stealth probably never got off because we stopped them ourselves. Another use it for RBG's just throw them on random targets and start using Spinning Crane Kick or Rushing Jade Wind for decent AoE damage and fantastic flag spinning. It is also effective when putting it on a target right before a swap to get your Rising Sun Kick debuff on them to do 15% more damage instantly without having to apply Rising Sun Kick.
- Zen Meditation, also very useful for it's grounding totem like effect. I most often use it right before a healer gets trapped to put it onto me. It is also very useful to eat Chaos Bolts, Deep Freezes, Cyclones, Fears, Polymorphs, Repentance, and all sorts of nasty things you don't want on a low teammate or healer.
- Transcendence, this ability is pretty standard. Put it down behind a pillar at the start of a game, put 3 healing spheres on it port out when you're in trouble, sometimes reverse port back to get to a target if they are near it, not to much to it. Be sure if you're on Blade's Edge or Dalaran Sewers Arena to have this up before chasing after someone who jumps. Make sure to keep track and have this at whatever pillar the fight is taking place mid-game.
I am only going to discuss a few races because some races are just horrible to be as a monk such as Tauren.
Humans: Humans racial is Every Man for Himself. This ability replaces the use of the commonly used Insignias purchased for conquest. This allows a new trinket to take place of the Insignia. That means you could have a Battlemaster's trinket or a Badge instead. It probably isn't worth using PvE trinkets because when you use two PvP trinkets you gain a significant amount of resilience. This means that you need to compare a 2nd PvP trinket to the other racials of the other races to determine what is better. Another benefit of being human is the Sword Specialization that allows you to get increased expertise from using swords.
Night Elves: This is the best race you can be if you are a Mistweaver on Alliance because you have Shadowmeld. You probably know this but if you don't it's important for you to know that if you use this ability the same time another ability hits you it acts as if that ability never hit. For example, if you Shadowmeld right as a mage finishes casting Polymorph it will act as if the mage never casted it on you. This is very good to prevent being Crowd Controlled (CC). There is also Quickness which can prove to be game breaking if you dodge something like a 6 second Kidney Shot while a teammate is very low, the odds are not in your favor but miracles do happen.
Orc: They have several racials that benefit the monk class. The first one is Axe Specialization, which has the same benefits as the humans allowing them to get extra expertise. The second racial is Blood Fury, which is a nice damage bonus. The third is Command which is unknown if it affects Xuen or your clones via Storm, Earth, and Fire but if it does then it is a minor overall damage bonus but a bonus nonetheless. And the last racial is Hardiness which can be combined to be Powerful Primal Diamond to have all stuns reduced by 25%. Although that may sound very good you lose your alternative metas reducing your damage, not to mention monks can be a very hard target to kill against casters because of Nimble Brew with Medallion, Diffuse, and Touch of Karma. This could be worth using against rogues, other monks, or warriors.
Undead: This is best healing race in the game in my personal opinion because of Will of the Forsaken acting as a second not as good trinket. They also have Shadow Resistance which is decent against classes like Warlocks, Death Knights, Priests, and Rogues (with Shadow Blades up). They also have Touch of the Grave for extra damage and healing throughout the game, which is minimal but it's something. And of course Cannibalize our favorite ability to disgrace your opponent after slaying them. This could be the best race or the worst race. For example, if all you face all during your queue session is Rogues and Death Knights you will never have to use your Will of the Forsaken where you could be Orc instead. But overall with how many priests and warlocks are in the game I'd say this is probably the most reliable race to go as a monk.
Blood Elf: Blood Elves racial is Arcane Torrent. Although this is all they provide, it is a handy ability if you do a lot of world PvP, 2v2, and even in 3v3 occasionally. Not only does it provide a 2s silence it gives you a free chi which can sometimes allow you to get another RSK, Blackout Kick, or Fists of Fury without having to Jab right before. If you're horde your going to be better off as Undead or Orc though.
Dwarf: Probably one of the worst races you can go but I have my alt one as dwarf because I love the little guys! It isn't completely useless though, Stoneform allows you the remove all diseases, poisons, and gives you a 10% damage reduction. So, if you are able to use this RIGHT before you get stunned and take a lot of damage it could save you. The main reason I ever use it though is to get out of Wyvern Stings from hunters, since it is a poison only a few healers can dispel it and it is a significant CC, therefore if you use your racial to get out it can save you from having to trinket which is huge. Dwarves also take 1% less frost damage so that is good because mages are everywhere, not to mention they also have a Mace Specialization which allows you to get extra expertise.
Glyphs in 5.4.7 are generally the same with very few expectations. Your go-to glyphs are italicized and the ones that can be useful are normal. Also, there is no way I can tell you what to pick against everything because this post would be massive so you need to take into account what you are playing and who you are facing to decide which glyphs to take.
Glyph of Touch of Death: This is a glyph that needs to be taken against every comp you face and play with. Being able to touch of death without using Chi is very important. A lot of times a target isn't under 10% for 1-2 globals so you really have one chance to get it off and if you have to jab or expel harm 1-2 times to get the chi they are probably dead or above 10% already. I recommend this glyph all of the time.
Glyph of Touch of Karma: Since Touch of Karma is our best defensive cooldown complained about so much I'm surprised it hasn't been nerfed. This glyph gives it a 20 yard range. This is extremely valuable seeing how without it you'd have to be in melee range to get it off and most of the time you need to get it off there is a slow on you and you can't get to the target. Even if there is double melee training you I recommend this glyph all of the time because of how essential it is to get it off exactly when you need it.
Glyph of Paralysis: This glyph allows you to safely paralysis a target without DoT effects breaking it. Depending on what comp you're playing you may or not need this, although we monks ourselves had a DoT from Blackout Kick, it rarely breaks out paralysis and we really only need this if your teammate has DoTs.
Glyph of Detox: This glyph is useful in the 2v2 bracket when playing Healer, WW monk because the only DoT monks have is blackout kick which doesn't last long and unless you're trying to paralysis the target you just blackout kicked it shouldn't break from damage. This means we can take this glyph over glyph of paralysis to keep some pressure off of us against one of the more popular comps, Healer, DK. It can also be used against Rogue teams to heal yourself a minor bit by removing Paralytic Poison or whatever poison they happen to be using.
Glyph of Nimble Brew: This glyph can also useful because of the heal it provides, if you use Nimble Brew to prevent dying it can help but if you are using it offensively it probably won't help much.
Glyph of Sparring: This glyph can be used when the team you're on has no DoT effects and preferably when you are facing a team with a wizard on it, it really depends on what you're playing and who you're facing so you need to decide what's best yourself.
Spinning Fire Blossom: This glyph is good and bad, sometimes you wish you had the root the flower gives you. But, a lot of time you wish you could just finish someone off with a flower. I've killed hundreds of totems by using this glyph. This glyph can be removed for the better against Mage, Hunter, and Balance Druid, type of teams where you are chasing them a lot and without the glyph it will root them letting you get a little bit closer.
Zen Flight: I've died a lot from falling so this is my savior. I have it bound to "U" just because it's somewhere I can get it but not super needed.
Blackout Kick: I use this glyph just because of the little extra damage it provides, the healing it provides is minuscule. Also since I use glyph of paralysis a lot the dot doesn't affect it.
Tier 1 - Mobility
Celerity, Tiger's Lust, Momentum. These are your options. Out of my thousands arena games as a monk so far I have never used anything but Tiger's Lust. The other options just don't compare to it. With Tiger's Lust you can; get yourself out of roots, sprint teammates to escape, sprint teammates to better positioning, to help your teammates get out of roots and slows, or just use it on an FC so make them go faster. In my experience, I mostly have played with several shamans and something important to know about Tiger's Lust is that it stacks with things like ghost wolf so shamans can easily escape melee by getting Tiger's Lust and activating ghost wolf adding up to a total of 110% movement speed.
Tier 2 - Healing
Chi Wave, Zen Sphere, Chi Burst: These are your options. Again, nearly all of my arena games have been using Chi Wave other than experimenting with the others. Zen Sphere's damage and healing doesn't compare overall and often breaks CC. Chi Wave does a significant amount of healing and damage, it has a low cooldown, it does magic (nature) damage so it isn't affected by armor, and it is single target so it shouldn't break CC but sometimes it hops to someone in CC but it is still worth it to take. Chi Burst may be viable from what I hear. It is twice the cooldown of Chi Wave but does a significant more amount of damage. I'd still probably stick to Chi Wave because of it's short cooldown and the fact that it is instant and doesn't have a cast time like Chi Burst.
Tier 3 - Chi
Power Strikes, Ascension, Chi Brew: For all of 5.3 Ascension dominated this tier, power strikes still doesn't compare to Ascension and Chi Brew but Chi Brew became the new best talent because of this change...
Chi Brew now restores 2 Chi, has a 45-second cooldown (down from 1.5 minutes), and generates 2 or 3 stacks of Tigereye Brew. Maximum of two charges.
Now what this means is that you have around a good chance to get 6 stacks out of the gates if you use both off the bat which is incredibly good. And if you cast Fists of Fury before the gates open it will only take 1 chi to get 1-2 more stacks, so after you use 1 chi you have the potential to have 8 stacks. This is why I use this over the others. Since the mastery change we have reforged into haste which increases our energy regeneration, and with all the CC in the game we rarely have enough up time to be out of energy.
Tier 4 - Control
Ring of Peace, Charging Ox Wave, Leg Sweep. Your most common pick is probably going to be leg sweep. There is a lot of controversy on which is the best but it really comes down to what you face, how you use them, and what you prefer personally. I'll compare them here...
Charging Ox Wave: Charging Ox Wave is a ranged stun that has a travel time, for example if you paralysis someone then depending on how far you are away from who you shot the Ox at it will vary on how long it takes to be affected by the stun. You may be hesitant to using it because it only lasts 3 seconds but the way I look at it you can use it whenever you want because of its short cooldown and the fact that it is ranged. If you wanted to leg sweep the healer you'd have to get to them to use it, but with Ox wave you can maintain your uptime on them and still get the stun off and that 2 second difference is probably equal to or more than how long it would take to get to the healer and leg sweep them then get back to you target. It also is very easy to use, many people try to lead their shots but that isn't how it works. To land a stun on someone you need to use it for where they are at there current location. I have an example of how it is deceiving in this video. Excuse my lag, again I can't stream or make videos because of my terrible computer.
Leg Sweep: This is the more commonly used talent in this tier because it lasts longer and can be used for going for kills. I personally think that it really depends on you like and play. If you play a composition of something like Shadow Priest, Monk, Healer then I would recommend using this because of being able to use Devouring Plague into this stun followed out by silence. Use this one if you want to be able to lock someone down for the kill.
Conclusion: It really depends on what you play and who you face. For example, we hit mages very hard but they will most likely have a Blink for every Leg sweep or Charging Ox Wave, therefore you would probably want the shorter cooldown one which is Ox Wave or Ring of Peace for the silence. Another example is if you're facing a rogue, although they can dodge or parry Leg Sweep easily, they cannot dodge or parry Ox Wave. But something quite unknown is that you can't use Charging Ox Wave while silenced and rogues tend to garrote monks a decent amount. An example of where leg sweep would be good is if you're facing something like Elemental shaman, Destruction Warlock, Resto druid. I'm sure you experienced how tanky both of those casters are against monks because of being able to have uptime on them and just their armor and passive damage reductions. Taking leg sweep would make swaps to the druid very good and effective.
It all depends on what you play and what you face.
Tier 5 - Survival
Healing Elixirs, Dampen Harm, Diffuse Magic.
After a long season I have a lot of thoughts on Healing Elixirs and Diffuse Magic. I'm not even going to talk about Dampen Harm because it is absolutely worthless.
Healing Elixirs: So for healing elixirs I have come to the conclusion it is truly based on what you face. If you are facing KFC healing elixirs will prove immensely more beneficial than Diffuse Magic for the hunter damage, it allows you to run around and self heal when you have to. I wouldn't recommend using this against dot cleaves either, just because it helps out with healing I find that a lot of the time it is off CD and just sitting there not healing you when you need it to. So I would say take this against teams that are mostly physical damage or have small magical burst damage.
Diffuse Magic: After a season of wizards and cleaves I had to swap specs a lot. For many teams I took Diffuse Magic because of how much magical damage they do. Even though you might think Healing Elixirs is better for things like LSD (Ele, Aff, Resto Druid) you're wrong. Being able to basically grant yourself immunity on a minute and a half CD for 6 seconds is incredible, although it will be a little tougher on your healer it could prevent you from having to use Touch of Karma, this means you'll have twice the major defensive cooldowns you would that if you were healing elixirs. Not to mention Healing Elixirs is often random and procs at worthless times a lot of the time. I also use this against teams like RMD (Rogue, Mage, Resto Druid) because of the high burst mages have, rogues have weak damage outside of their burst so healing elixirs will only help you when you are being bursted on which it then heals you for 15%, but if you were to use Diffuse Magic you could stop around 50 to even 60% of your entire health by taking 90% less magical damage from a mage blasting ice lances at you.
Again this tier requires you to decide what is best and you need to judge what to take yourself.
Tier 6 - Damage
Rushing Jade Wind, Invoke Xuen, the White Tiger, Chi Torpedo. As the game has evolved and we've acquired more gear Rushing Jade Wind is almost always the best pick because we can use it to blow off excess energy. Some occasions you would want to take Xuen over it is against a double DPS team in 2v2.
First of all, to gem correctly you must know what stats you want. There are dozens of way to gem a monk based off of each and every slot and which gear you have. I'll repost the monk armories if you just want to copy one of theirs instead of experimenting to find the perfect setup on your own. Anyways, what most monks are doing now stat wise is...
Crit > Haste > Mastery. The reason of this is that when we get a critical strike we can do insane amounts of damage. Therefore, Crit is the best stat, haste is the second because our Mastery is not very good. Our mastery has a chance for us to get an extra stack of Tigereye Brew, if you were to stack mastery it would only give you a small % of getting an extra stack which isn't as good as being able to jab more if you have more haste.
Yellow: Deadly Vermillion Onyx
Shoulders: Greater Tiger Claw Inscription
Bracers: Enchant Bracer - Greater Agility
Gloves: Enchant Gloves - Greater Haste
Legs: Shadowleather Leg Armor
Weapons: Dancing Steel and Glorius Tyranny. If you can't get 2200 for the Glorius Tyranny enchant then buy a Living Steel Weapon Chain. You should also have 3 weapons. Two with dancing steel and one with either Living Steel or Glorious Tyranny. The reason behind this is because if you face a team without disarms then the effect of those other two enchants isn't as good as the one from dancing steel.____________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Similar to gemming and enchanting, every monk has slightly different stats. But almost all of them are within a few %'s of each other. Most monks range between...
These number will change by the end of the season so try to scale it up with the new gear we get.
Hit: As close to 3% as possible.
Critical Strike: 40% or higher
Haste: 12% or higher
Mastery: 38% or less
After experimenting with 3% expertise I found that on very rare occasions healers like Paladins and Shamans can "block" a leg sweep or Spear Hand Strike which can throw off a game. So it's better to be safe than sorry so 6% expertise will make it so that doesn't happen.
Again, 3% Hit > 6% Expertise > Crit > Haste > Mastery____________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Professions can vary depending on what race you are. For example, if you are human you will be using a On-Use PvP trinket as well as an Insignia. And since you have the On-Use trinket the Synapse Springs you get from engineering wouldn't be as good because they share 10s cooldowns with each other, I'm not saying it's bad but I feel like there are other professions for human that is better than engineering. So here it is.
Humans: Tailoring + (Alchemy, Blacksmithing, Enchanting, Inscription, Jewelcrafting. [All of these give +320 Agility in some way.)
Everything Else: Engineering + (Tailoring, Alchemy, Blacksmithing, Enchanting, Inscription, Jewelcrafting. [All of these give +320 Agility in some way.)
I know a lot of people want to know what the absolute best way to gear, reforge, gem, talent, glyph, professions, etc. without having to go through a huge guide like this so I made this category dedicated to monks who I believe to be educated on the class and know how to personalize their monk to make it as deadly as possible. Here they are...
- Venfuki @ Tichondrius
- Smoove @ Tichondrius
- Galaxyfist @ Tichondrius
- Smexual @ Tichondrius
- and mine Balance @ Rexxar and Koalapunch @ Korgath
I know that everybody has their own personal keybindings and I understand that it isn't likely that anyone will change based on what I have to say here but I feel like it needs to be said.
My keybinds are bound in an effective way. I have each ability bound to a great bind that allows me to do a lot of things, get places, and pop cooldowns. I'll explain after you look at this picture.
This picture shows how all my damaging abilities are bound to my naga. This allows me to use my QWE keybinds to move and I use my right thumb to deal all my damage. The purpose of this allows me to hit all of my damaging keybinds with being able to keep up with my target by using my strafes and move forward binds. I feel like if I had those abilities on other keybinds I would have conflict with doing damage and moving.
I also have my mobility keybinds such as roll, tiger's lust, and flying serpent kick to keybinds close to my movement binds.This allows me to keep moving accurately towards my target while using mobility keybinds so I don't end up rolling off to the side of them.
If you're new to monk try changing your keybinds to get to your mobility binds as quick as possible and have your damaging abilities not collide with being able to move.
In this portion of the guide I state my personal opinions which has been altered by personal experience and the thoughts of others. If you disagree with any of my opinions in this category please post a comment on your experience with the comp on why it works and why is doesn't. Thank you.
Important Information: I believe that anything played by good enough players has the potential to get good rating. Don't be discouraged by my opinions on a comp and decide not to play it, try it out and prove me wrong if I think it isn't good. Anything is possible.
Mage: This class is one of the worst you can put with a monk on paper. Every single CC you and the mage has DRs. But surprisingly, it works quite nice, it may be because mages are so good right now or maybe the comp just works. It plays similar to warrior mage, even though warriors lack CC and their stuns DR with mages deep freeze the high damage of the two classes makes the comp work nicely. Therefore I think this comp is pretty good because monks also have high damage, you just have to be careful on who is casting polymorph and who is paralyzing what.
Stuns: Deep Freeze with Leg Sweep, Charging Ox Wave, and Fists of Fury.
Polymorphs / Incapacitates: Polymorph and Paralysis
Silences: Counterspell Silence with Spear Hand Strike blanket silence.
Roots: Frost Nova and Pet Freeze with Disable Root.
Rogue: This class isn't good with monks because both have lots of stuns. Rogues damage isn't very consistent if they are subtlety which most are. Their burst revolves around Shadowdance letting them stun and silence things all over. The problem they share with monks is the DR on stuns. Although, just like everything it does have potential to get rating but would be much harder than if a monk played with a better class.
Stuns: Cheap Shot and Kidney Shot with Leg Sweep, Charging Ox Wave, and Fists of Fury.
Silences: Garrote with Spear Hand Strike blanket silence.
Incapacitates: Sap and Gouge with Paralysis.
Priest: As of right now this is my favorite comp as well as the one I have most experience with. Although it isn't a common monk comp it has great potential. Some downsides is that your priest has to be very good for it to succeed. But if you and your priest are able to connect on a target at the same time other enemies are CC'd the damage is unreal and you almost always get a cooldown.
Disarms: Psychic Horror with Grapple Weapon.
Silence: Silence with Spear Hand Strike blanket silence.
Warrior: Warrior monk would be a low tiered monk comp because of the things each class brings to the table. Although both classes have high amounts of damage they both lack CC. Monks work better with a cast that can provide peels and offensive CC.
Stuns: Shockwave, Warbringer, and Stormbolt with Leg Sweep, Charging Ox Wave, and Fists of Fury.
Disarms: Disarm and Grapple Weapon
Death Knight: Death Knights are similar to warriors in the fact that they have little CC but are very good at training. Just like warrior monk, death knight monk would have a problem of little CC allowing a healer to easily heal through the damage. This comp is viable just like everything else but isn't a top-tier monk comp.
Stuns: Remorseless Winter, Asphyxiate with Leg Sweep, Charging Ox Wave, and Fists of Fury.
Roots: Chains of Ice w/ Chillblains with Disable Root.
Paladin: This class just like every class is viable to a certain extent. I have yet to try this recently but I did give it a go in 5.3, although 5.3 was very bursty I am not going to let that affect my opinion on this comp. I believe this comp could work decently. The only problem this comp could have is the CC. If the paladin took Turn Evil (fear) and cast it on the healer it may prove to be the thing that DK monk or War Monk doesn't have, the extra CC. I encourage people to try this comp and let me know how it works.
Stuns: Hammer / Fist of Justice with Leg Sweep, Charging Ox Wave, and Fists of Fury.
Incapacitate: Repentance with Paralysis.
Warlocks: Warlocks are arguably the best class a monk can run with this patch. I'm only going to go into affliction because as of now Destruction doesn't seem to be very popular. Demo isn't popular either so I don't really know to much about it therefore I can't give my opinion on its viability. But affliction is good right now. The amount of CC warlocks have is so great combined with their damage it allows monks to go on whoever they want and just do as much damage as possible. A monk on a healer while a warlock is fear spamming the other 2 members with dark soul up would be very hard to heal through.
Stuns: Shadowfury with Leg Sweep, Charging Ox Wave, and Fists of Fury.
Warlock Pets: share DR with Spear Hand Strike blanket silence and Grapple Weapon.
Hunters: Last patch hunters were one of the best classes a monk could run with because of how the game was played. And yet again, hunters are the dominate class. This is probably the best class you can run with as a WW monk to high rating.
Stuns: Intimidation, Binding Shot, Pet CC, with Leg Sweep, Charging Ox Wave, and Fists of Fury.
Silences: Silencing Shot with Spear Hand Strike blanket silence
Incapacitate: Freezing Trap with Paralysis
Disarms: Snatch with Grapple Weapon
Shaman (Enh): I really haven't personally tested this comp out or seen it at high ratings so I can't vouch for its success or failure but based on what I know about enhancement shamans I would say it is a decent comp. With the right healer it could have just enough CC and sustained damage to have a chance against other high pressure comps. A full CC on a healer with ascendence up with the monk popping stacks of Tigereye brew could prove quite deadly.
Shaman (Ele): This comp is one of the higher tier WW comps because it's a shaman. Shamans are pretty hard to kill so they don't require much peels, also they have high damage output which in combination with Windwalker monks make it very deadly.
Stuns: Capacitor Totem with Leg Sweep, Charging Ox Wave, and Fists of Fury.
Polymorph / Incapacitate: Paralysis and Hex
Druid (Balance): Since the Balance spec is arguably one of the worst in the game you'd think that balance druids wouldn't work well with monks. I however am curious to see how it would go, I think if balance druids get a damage buff they would work extremely well with monks because of the few DRing CC's they share.
Druid (Feral): Similar to balance druids feral druids are not in a happy place. Without having instant cyclones it is very easy for to stop a feral druid from getting a cyclone off. Their damage is good but without CC ferals and monks can be healed through. The benefit of this comp would be survivability. It could be hard to kill a feral and monk if all they do is run away because of their mobility but it would be very hard to land a kill. With a good healer this comp like anything could get decent rating.
Stuns: Bash, and Maim with Leg Sweep, Charging Ox Wave, and Fists of Fury.
Roots: Entangling Roots with Disable Root.
This will category shows which comps I think are most successful.
Windwalker / Hunter (All Specs)
Windwalker / Warlock (Affliction)
Windwalker / Priest (Shadow)
Windwalker / Shaman (Elemental)
Windwalker / Mage (Frost)
Windwalker / Warlock (Destruction)
Windwalker / Paladin (Retribution)
Windwalker / Druid (Balance)
Windwalker / Mage (Fire)
Windwalker / Mage (Arcane)
Windwalker / Rogue (All Specs)
Windwalker / Warrior (All Specs)
Windwalker / Death Knight (All Specs)
Windwalker / Druid (Feral)
Zen Meditation Macro
/cast !Zen Meditation
- I use this macro so if I spam my keybind for Zen Med it won't cancel the channel by mistake, that is what the "!" does.
/cast Fortifying Brew
- Although it is safe to macro healthstone into your fortifying brew, you should still have JUST the healthstone somewhere keybound by itself.
/cast [target=party1] Tiger's Lust
/cast [target=party2] Tiger's Lust
/cancelaura Stampeding Roar
/cancelaura Body and Soul
/cast [target=Balance] Tiger's Lust
- These are my party sprints and my self sprint, I also have just the spell bound to shift-Y for bg's and stuff but for arena this is what you should use. Also you can't Tiger's Lust yourself when Stampeding Roar or Body and Soul is on you so if you're rooted you need to cancel them to escape.
- Every melee class needs one of these.
/cast [target=focus] Paralysis
- Just focus paralysis.
/cast [target=focus] Grapple weapon
- Just a focus disarm.
/cancelaura Spinning Crane Kick
/cast [target=focus] Spear Hand Strike
- Your basic focus kick with a cancel aura Spinning Crane Kick because in case let's say a priest Spectral Guises and you need to hit him out so you use SCK and he's out and starts to cast but you need to kick but you can't because of SCK, that's why the cancel aura is there.
/cancelaura Spinning Crane Kick
/cancelaura Hand of Protection
/cast Touch of Karma
- I died more often than I like to admit because I was spinning before I could karma (mostly on big mob pulls outside of arena) but it doesn't hurt to have it in arena. I also have cancel aura BoP on there because sometimes if you are facing a melee and caster and a paladin BoPs you, you are unable to karma and die to the caster.
/cancelaura Spinning Crane Kick
/cast Spear Hand Strike
- Same thing as the focus one.
- I've been playing monk since they came out, I'm not 100% sure if you can still auto-attack after a paralysis but it used to happen, better safe than sorry.
/cancelaura spining crane kick
/cast touch of death
- This is a pretty important macro, I've heard that when you target last target it registers the 10% faster so your ToD will go off but I can't confirm it, it doesn't effect it in a bad way so might as well have it. And the crane kick just because if you're spinning and miss your chance to touch of death it could cost you the game.
/cast Rising Sun Kick
- This makes your Xuen attack the target you are attacking.
/cancelaura Storm, Earth, and Fire
/cancelaura Rushing Jade Wind
/cancelaura Spinning Crane Kick
- I'd rather have a separate macro to get rid of clones than waiting for global on actual ability.
- Warning: If you're not facing the Psyfiend or there isn't one out it will paralyze your current target, be careful when using this macro to avoid removing dots from your target or wasting Paralysis.
/cast [target=party2] Detox
- This is pretty important to avoid your team being owned by DK dots, Devouring Plague, Paralytic Poison, and Wyvern Sting.
- This macro allows you to throw a clone on your focus, I mostly do this to get my Rising Sun Kick debuff up on them before I swap so I am immediately doing 15% more damage.
Here are some extremely useful addons for WW monks.
ChiBar: This addon lets you have a chi bar that you can freely move around, make it bigger or smaller, vertical or horizontal, and many other options.
Nameplates Modifier: This basically adds a percentage to the default blizzard name plates. This is the most important macro WW monks can have because of how crucial it is to get Touch of Death off at the precise moment.
Everybody wants to see some WW monk PvP. Since that is hard to come by I'll link you to a couple of channels that may show some WW monk PvP, I can't guarantee that they will but here is where you might find some. I also put mine in there in case I ever stream.
Posted Chanimal on 21 February 2014 - 07:54 PM
Unfortunately, this website has been going down in quality (I've probably contributed to this a few times).
In my opinion, trolls are only part of the reason for this. The other major reason is lower rated players that don't really know what they are talking about, posting something (and usually being toxic about it).
Arena junkies in my head is a forum that should have good information from quality PvPers with good ratings. I think this, because that's where reliable information comes from - someone who is frustrated at say, 1700 ratings posting something doesn't really hold much weight.
Posted Nadagast on 21 February 2014 - 12:09 AM
Trolling and assholery puts AJ on a downward spiral. People troll/asshole-it-up, which leads to less people using this as a forum for serious/reasonable discussion, which leads to more trolling, etc. AJ always was and continues to be the most popular place for new players to get into the PvP scene. Any community relies on new members to sustain itself--by making this place a wasteland we are doing nothing but ensuring our own demise.
Before you post a reply or topic, ask yourself: am I being an asshole? If you are, change your post to take a more educational tone. If you're feeling heated about something, take some time to cool off before replying. Don't immediately assume someone is trolling you, some people are just not very knowledgeable. Worst case, if you reply in a calm educational manner, you've posted something informative for the hundreds or thousands of lurkers who will view your reply. These are generally newer PvPers, and anything you do to help sustain them as arena players helps all of us.
On any set of forums, it's easy to forget that almost all of the people reading it are lurkers, who will never make any posts. Lurkers cannot be trolls, they can't be assholes, they are just here to learn or read interesting things. Post interesting, informative content. Post drama if you want, but don't be an asshole. Fuck the trolls, post for the lurkers.
Posted Reetry on 17 February 2014 - 05:51 PM
Posted Snuggli on 15 February 2014 - 08:50 PM
Posted Snuggli on 15 February 2014 - 06:41 PM
Shadows main defensive is shielding - nerfed by BF.
DKs main defensive is AMS/healing - both nerfed by BF.
Warrior main defensive is disarm, spell reflect, % damage reduction - not affected by BF.
Rogues main defensive is vanish, cloak, % damage reduction - not affected by BF.
Mages main defensive is blink, ice block, roots, silences, vanish - not affected by BF (ice shield is though).
Hunters main defensive is distance, deterrence, feign death, silence, disarm, root - not affected by BF.
Rets main defensive is bubble - not affected by BF
Shadows main defensive is disperse - not affected by BF
DKs main defensive is disgusting damage on the other team - buffed by BF.
Warriors main defensive is second wind - nerfed by BF.
Rogues main defensive is recuperate - nerfed by BF.
Mages main defensives are spellsteal glyph and temp shield - both nerfed by BF.
Hunters main defensive is spirit bond - nerfed by BF.
Posted Feliclandelo on 10 February 2014 - 12:04 PM
Posted Reetry on 22 January 2014 - 10:22 AM
It is very simple - they did a crappy job and people are congratulating them due to lack of any other tournaments.
Tell them what they did wrong so they can improve instead of giving them a pat on the back for trying.
There was some flaws with the tournament – you mentioned in a different post that there was problems with people disconnecting, people having computer problems that caused a lot of wait time.
But to be fair you can’t blame the organizers that the players participating have disconnect issues or computer issues – it’s not like they can ship over a decent computer and pay for internet to every participant that is the issues that comes with online tournaments.
The problem was not so much that people randomly left games and what not, the problem was that there were 10 +minutes of dead air on the stream with absolutely no information on what is going on.
yolocommenting? You are an idiot.
At last, since you are so keen about giving out advice, I would advise you to come up with constructive criticism to improve the tournament instead of talking shit, which nobody can use to anything.
More people will tune in if it is a lot more organized and fun to watch.
Posted Braindance on 22 January 2014 - 12:46 AM
Posted Zerud on 22 January 2014 - 12:45 AM
The problem was not so much that people randomly left games and what not, the problem was that there were 10 +minutes of dead air on the stream with absolutely no information on what is going on.
yolocommenting? You are an idiot.
How the hell does this excuse them from sucking at it? It is not easy so they can do a crappy job and be congratulated on it?
Is it so ungodly hard to organize 20 people when there are money at stake to be won? I don't think so.
That was by far the worst wow tournament I have seen.
If they "have their own problems/bs" they should not have signed up for a tournament that thousands of people are expected to watch now should they?
Ye fck those random players signing up for this tourny because they can earn $$$ playing a video game for a few hours, the organizer should of been more strict and made sure these people followed his lead perfectly so some dude behind the internet could watch this free tourny with little to no downtime on his demand. And why didn't he host the tourny from a server floating in the Atlantic ocean for best ping/latency, god damn organizer, cant even get that right. WORST WOW TOURNY EVER
Posted Häxantutto on 21 January 2014 - 05:34 PM
Posted Chanimal on 21 January 2014 - 04:19 PM
Actually (no offence to anyone)... I prefer listening to skypes over commentating in 90% of situations. This is true even for Azael, who's a great commentator.
Think it's much more exciting when you get to hear the players. Commentating can be good too and definitely has its place.