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#3893204 Patch 5.3: One shots!

Posted Galaleo on 30 May 2013 - 11:39 AM

View PostSabyth, on 30 May 2013 - 03:11 AM, said:

But casters randomly globaling people is skill.

Got it.

Don't get me wrong, I hate cleaves and am working on my own Ele now, but neither one is more stupid than the other at this point.

Melee classes are very biased and I can respect that. I can even see how you may think that wizards are just as retarded. The issue casters have is regardless of comp they are required to ramp up damage. With the exception of ele wizards simply cannot pick a target when the gates open and tunnel it into the ground. The mindset of a caster is setup and CC. The mindset of a melee cleave is to acquire a target before the gates open and shove unhealable damage into it.

Jumping into arena you cant grab 2 buddies and play God comp, you just cant. You CAN however dive in with a warrior hunter or similar cleave and tunnel well past 2k with relative ease. These players mistake this success as skill and are ruining the community.

This is just my perception obviously and I dont want to come off pretentious. I have been on both sides of the table though. My first 2 gladiator titles were on a feral druid and I have played rogue to 2700 as well. When I first got into my rogue I had issues breaking 2200 partly due to gear and partly due to lack of skill. I then partnered with a 2k warrior and a druid and we literally rolled to 2300 in an hour or so. It made it so easy to get my tier 2 weapons for the first time on rogue.

Im not discrediting the skill of ALL melee cleave comps, but you guys really need a reality check if you dont see the issue with tunneling 1 target and then complaining when after a few mins you die.

#3893044 Patch 5.3: One shots!

Posted Shouri on 30 May 2013 - 02:21 AM

Man it's depressing how you get cheated out of your hard fought and well deserved win!

#3891216 Arena is kind of ridic right now

Posted Lolflay on 24 May 2013 - 10:36 AM

View PostRadejjj, on 22 May 2013 - 03:44 PM, said:

The game was even more of a joke in tbc then it is now, but people nostalgia too hard to realize it. It was a different kind of stupid, but stupid none the less, anyone who thinks sl/sl warlocks, 4 piece/4piece rogues, macestun/stormherald warriors, 3 lifeblooms outhealing ANYTHING, and everything else that made up s3/4, was somehow more skillfull then the game today, is insane. The game has always been stupid, glad has never been particularly hard, its easier/harder for different classes each season, but it was sure as hell easier when their were 300 glad spots on every bg from 2s

No nostalgia here in question. SL/SL warlocks had multiple ways of getting beat, both for 2s and for 3s; 4pc/4pc rogues weren't nearly as OP as anything that followed in next xpacks; stormherald was only really good during s1; dispel system was there for a reason when it came to druids. EVERYTHING could be countered except a really really good rogue with full pve gear, and even then - if he overextended like a dickhead he'd still get dropped.

And you saying "Glad was never particularly hard" makes me believe you're one of those people who diss TBC just to diss it. If you were any good during that period, you'd see that there was actual competition back then.

#3885204 recent ptr changes (mage/uh nerf)

Posted Jah2828 on 08 May 2013 - 02:07 AM

If you're going to nerf mage damage you don't nerf frosbolt lol. You nerf incanter's CD or spell power % / proc trinket (mainly relic of yulon). The only real ridiculous damage that comes from mages is because of incanters, proc trinkets, prey on the weak, and tricks of the trade.

Using Mitchjones playing with Reckful is a terrible example as well. I'm pretty sure Mitchjones is stacking full int, playing with NO PvP trinket, and spends 90% of the game next to a pillar WITH blazing speed. Not to mention if he's playing with Reckful (no offense) they are probably playing against really low rated teams who do nothing but look at health bars the entire game instead of actual buffs/posiitioning.

Next time one of you dies or takes an unreasable amount of damage unnexpectedly (mainly from rogue/mage/hunter), please take a moment to look at the buffs of the person who did it. I promise 99% of the time it happens you'll see some random ass godly PvE trinket up, or incanters stacked with on use/proc trinket.

Shouldn't be worrying about classes' damage in PVP until using PvE gear isn't viable in arena anymore.

#3878181 tremor totem is a old and dumb mechanic

Posted Riizla on 21 April 2013 - 01:36 AM

View PostBraindance, on 20 April 2013 - 10:44 PM, said:


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#3872971 Holy paladin changes id want

Posted diglett23 on 09 April 2013 - 06:45 PM

Hunter CC is a little too much, I will agree with that point, and I've played with a Hunter every season and every tournament I have played in, so no bias there. I think Hunters need pet CC taken away from them or something of that nature. Good teams can eat traps yes, but the good hunters can make it so they cant. For example trapping off of Scatter and or Hunter CC is predictable, trapping off of DK Aspyhxiate or  Pally Hoj, isnt. Hojing the Warrior before he can intervene is another way to stop it. Good Hunters will land CC, end of story. The problem with this, is mainly shadow priests being able to just MD the trap, which is being addressed which is good.

I think a major problem with Paladin in MoP is this, the dispell change. Paladins have always been the best healer for cleaves, no one can really argue that. But with  dispell having a cooldown, it makes it so I can only dispell one CC for my team. For example, as PHD we have all cooldowns up against godcomp and we are on the shadowpriest, the mage polys my DK, I dispell him, and the mage already has one precasted, just like that, my dk is in a 4 second undispellable CC. This time allows the healer to top his spriest and bascially reset the game. I wasn't CCed when the mage polyed again, and if this were Cata I would of been able to dispell again and we would of won the game. With that being said I think Disc Priests outshine Holy Paladins in all cleaves now. They have dispell, but they can also Mass Dispell a CC again, which is gamebreaking. They are a lot harder to kill than Holy Paladins, escpially by rogues and wizards. They have fear, which goes great with cleaves, ex: fear out of trap, or grip fear from DK. All of this makes discs a better option than Holy Paladin.

ALl in all, I hope they can address some of the issues holy paladins have, maybe making rebuke a ranged interupt such as wind shear could be a start.

Edit: and Before people say l0l S12 KFC, the only reason that comp was retarded is warrior and hunter, holy paladins are just the best healer for a 1-2 minute match. Which is what most of our matches as KFC lasted when we grinded to 2600 last season.

#3870489 Titan - Possible Leak

Posted amirdaheat on 03 April 2013 - 12:40 PM

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Jay Wilson took one of the best and addicting game Blizzard ever released, twisted it into one giant piece of shit, let all the fans down that have been waiting for this BETA GAME for OVER 10 YEARS and claims that it is HIS work that he sold 10 million copies. And on top of that, he bashes the original creator of Diablo, instead of going on to his knees and sucking his balls. There is a special place in hell for Jay.

#3863969 Some 5.2 updated addons (AAV, SpellAlerter, Icicle, SpellLock, PAB, Interrupt...

Posted anad1o on 19 March 2013 - 07:39 PM

View PostDjandawg, on 13 March 2013 - 10:04 AM, said:

how about purgeatory?
also is spell alerter working?

i updated purgeatory for 5.2. follow my instructions in this post or download it directly from here.

#3855362 Projected Gladiator Statistics: Warriors & Hunters clear winners

Posted Hackattack3 on 01 March 2013 - 06:06 PM

View PostBraindance, on 28 February 2013 - 08:27 PM, said:

There have always been op cheese comps, but on AJ anything that includes a warrior has to be the worst out of all of them everytime. Kfc is  indeed op and retard friendly, but there have been equally braindead comps in the past. I am completely baffled as to why no one referring to sp shaman warrior/feral which is like the most foolproof comp (not most op) to ever appear on the game and everyone just keeps bashing kfc (which I hate myself).

Acknowledging my bias, speaking from a hunter/casterdps/healer perspective, the game always feels like its in a bad spot when warriors and Dks are viable/top tier (from ATC to TSG).  I don't know if it's b/c the classes have a high skill floor and low skill cap or are just plain easy to play, but the game feels bad and mongo.  

I always felt like regardless of what the other cheeze comps were (RLS, RMP, dot cleaves, beast cleave) you could at least formulate a plan to deal with them and "try" to execute, you had to play better than them to win but they won't overwhelming you with straight rush or bullshit abilities.

#3854787 Projected Gladiator Statistics: Warriors & Hunters clear winners

Posted Oliaxz on 28 February 2013 - 08:14 AM

Here is a couple things that blizzard should never do in order to keep balance consistent season after season :

1. Giving any sort of instant CC to ranged class that are not stuns/disorient/root.

2. Giving more than 2 gap closer abilities to melee.

3. Giving more than 2 escape abilities to ranged, especially when that class has a lot of CCs (ex: mage with blazing speed + blink in 5.2... i feel like this is the wrong way to adress their "cant kite for shit when being trained" issue, combining molten + frost armor would have made much more sense, probably better and certainly more consistent).

4. Giving blanket silence to melee (except garrote i guess).

5. Giving undispellable "cant be snared" abilities to melee.

Then once they get those down they need to make stand still hard cast better than instant spam or move while casting spells (at the very least make it so you need to do 1 stand still hard cast to land a kill). And once hard cast is good again and mobility is somewhat balanced for every class, then you can put interrupts back on 10s for melee and fake casting will be worth doing once again. Also mind numbing is retarded and so is the non dr rng para stun. They should remove cloak and dagger, put crippling back at 70% and make it root people when u shiv.

#3853401 The worst team

Posted Hackattack3 on 25 February 2013 - 03:34 PM

View Postandysc, on 24 February 2013 - 11:32 PM, said:

all I read was, "as if statistics mean anything"

You guys are honestly worst than the crowd of nerds that are probably still playing Everquest. The game has NEVER BEEN BALANCED. Either you can use that to your advantage, which none of you have, or you can keep not understanding it and whine about it. Facts: hunters have ALWAYS HAD MORE BINDS, even more than Affliction back in the day, and Hunters have had the worst design throughout the entire game.

Honestly, how can you even say any different? This is well-documented fact backed up by statistics, patch notes - all gathered over more than half a decade. Tons of pro players - meaning players with way more ability and accolades than anyone who says to the contrary - say Hunters should be freewin. Shadowplay in S9 was unbeatable as any Hunter team unless they sucked. Even Azael and Snutz said they got outplayed and shouldn't have lost the game.

You guys are just bad players with no real concept of balance or anything. You just think you're good so you think your opinion is the right one. Guess what? You're not good. You were never good, ever. This game is dead and anyone who says otherwise is either making an absurd amount of money from being one of the last e-famous people left, or someone like you guys who probably bought your account and thought to yourself:

"the horoscopes were right.. this really is my year. Time to finally get access to ArenaJunkies. Best $800 I ever spent. God, I've waited 8 years for this.."

Speaking of nostalgia,

Dumb post showing zero understanding or grasp of the evolution of hunters over the past few expansions.  If you were to say hunters took the most skill and were the hardest to play in tbc/wotlk I would absolutely agree with you.  I know they had flashes of OP with beastcleave, ATC, and survival in s5 but at the tail end of wotlk they fell over to spell cleaves.  

What made hunters difficult to play in tbc/wotlk was that they were poorly designed and had terrible mechanics.  Resources issues, (mana lol, aspect of viper?  poor focus regen) they were squishy (no damage reduction ability, high stam as defense, healer soak), and they had difficult/clunky cc to get off.  How were these problems addressed?

Resource issues - tons of focus regen abilities from thrill of the hunt to pvp set bonuses makes getting up steady/cobra shots and player oriented regening less important

Squishy - aspect of ironhawk (15%), roar of sac (crit immunity), all of BMs cc outs, and 1min Deter + readiness

Difficult/clunky cc - trap launcher, INSTANT pet stun, they even upgraded the monkey's 0.5 sec cast.  All specs silencing shot.

I would argue that no other class has had their pvp issues addressed better since wotlk than hunters.  It is no longer accurate to say that hunter is the most difficult dps class to play since all of the major issues with class design were fixed.

#3852124 'Cooldown Commitment'

Posted affix on 21 February 2013 - 10:09 PM

Originally posted this on the PTR forum so a lot of the writing is geared more towards that audience, but I thought I might as well post it here as well:

There's a concept I think of as "cooldown commitment" when it comes to dealing damage that I think is really important to recognize. Most burst sequences require that you blow a lot of cooldowns before the damage ever arrives. Warrior's have to blow Avatar/Reck/Trinket/Skull Banner/etc. to swifty people. Rogues have to blow shadow blades + dance. Mages on live have to blow trinket+orb+deep freeze+icy veins+alter time. This is the standard damage model for burst.

In 5.2, Mage cooldown commitment for our biggest burst is quite low. We can turtle until Incanter's Ward is fully absorbed (very easy to guarantee), nova or frostjaw someone, and our only serious cooldown we have to commit for max burst is a damage trinket before our first Frostbolt. If you want to be conservative, your first Frostbolt doesn't really need to have trinket popped, you can just cast it and trinket+icy veins afterwards. Once that frostbolt is in the air, then you can decide to commit to the burst attempt depending on what defensives were used in response to the impending frostbolt. Either you use none, and you baited their cooldowns for nothing, or tons, and you blow people up with pom+alter time+deep freeze frostbolt shatters.

We actually don't have a spare GCD in our 'standard' 5.2 burst sequence to use things like Frozen Orb. That can be saved for in between bursts to build up procs and increase our sustained damage. You can risk telegraphing your burst by using it before the first frostbolt, but it's not usually a good call.

The standard burst model is still fairly difficult for most players to deal with, as few of them require incorruptible casts. This results in a lot of forum QQ because the average player can't tell when huge burst is coming based on subtle instant cast CDs, but is fairly easy to figure out if you're paying attention to the right stuff (Did that Mage use alter time with FoF/BF up? Did that Warrior use Avatar+Reck or just Reck? Did that Rogue dance with shadow blades up?). The 5.2 Mage model has the opposite problem: very little cooldown commitment, but interruptible. The result is that we can try, over and over again, to set up game ending burst, and the first time it isn't recognized and prevented, the cooldown barrage follows and you die without being able to control your character.

These kinds of subtleties aren't usually discussed on these forums and this is probably better suited for its own topic, but 5.2 is going to give a lot of people grief because whereas right now, Mage burst is a game ending threat vs. well geared players every 1.5-3 minutes, on PTR right now we're ALWAYS a threat as long as we save our important burst cooldowns for the times when our small cooldown commitment damage combinations are still enough to guarantee a kill when appropriately followed by uncounterable burst.

One could argue that this is the upside of opening up your defensive tree to interrupts, and that there's going to be times now when we get blown up with no ability to react because we committed our Frost tree to a kill attempt, but I'm not sure that's a big enough disadvantage with interrupts being a shorter duration now than they have been in the past when Mages casted (interrupts used to be as long as 10 seconds).

Food for thought!

edit: The more I think about this problem, the more I see the 'frostbolt does better damage than instants' model maybe only making sense in an environment where melee don't have too-high uptime, and healers actually have to cast. But right now, instants STILL need to be very high, or else every game becomes "train the mage" with guaranteed success. Frostbolt as an ideal spell to cast, and instant casts less threatening than they are now, may be a design that has to wait for 6.0. I'm worried for how they'll adjust the class in light of Frostbolt's buffs, there's no clear path towards an effective class that is neither too strong nor too weak at high levels of play, with Frostbolt staying how it is right now.

#3851830 Tone down burst JK BLIZZARD!

Posted Seu on 20 February 2013 - 11:15 PM

View PostApplejackxD, on 20 February 2013 - 09:56 PM, said:

I don't understand how you mafakkas can cry about high burst when 99% of you though WotLK was the best expac... That was all about the damige!

in  most scenarios in wotlk you could play well to shut other teams burst down, or avoid cc. it just felt like you could actually do things in general because mechanics were more demanding for most classes.

you cant really make big plays anymore in mop and being able to do good damage isnt impressive either - any idiot can pump out insane damage and sick cc because its so simplified. its why people stopped making arena videos... there was just nothing impressive/worth showing when you went through your clips at the end of the day.

if you think wrath 3v3 was centered 100% around pumping damage like mop is, then i doubt you played the game at a high level at the time.

#3837777 Season 12 Title Calculator

Posted Starcookie on 20 January 2013 - 12:31 AM

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#1444085 Arena MS paint rage thread!

Posted Gurren on 03 November 2009 - 10:04 AM

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Oh well.