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#4425532 If Ghostcrawler came back as developer, would this game be better?

Posted Syia on 17 May 2015 - 09:37 AM

There are so many levels to what went wrong it would be impossible to blame one person. It would be impossible for one person to fix it too. Ghostcrawler was a part of pushing the game towards greater homogenization, lowering the price of entry to gated content, and creating hard-mode vs casual-mode content.

At a glance, all of these things were initially pretty well received as evidenced by subscriber counts. Many of the traditional RPG mechanics in Vanilla/Burning Crusade sucked. Some classes were legitimately low standing citizens (not just specializations) and a lot of content wasn't being consumed by the majority of level-capped players (not even considering the people who weren't level capped). Arenas were receiving a lot of love for being new and running through the MLG circuit.

However, these concepts that were initially good for the game got pushed too far. Content is too cyclical now. Casual versions of raids reduce the perceived value of "hardcore raiders". In Vanilla/TBC there was constant need to run older raids and scaling was tight enough that people a tier behind didn't feel like they were in a different stratosphere. Classes have become too homogenized; their once defining characteristics feel so bland now. What is wrong with having flavor abilities to put on your hot bar? Nothing.

World of Warcraft got tipped too far in favor of streamlining content and classes, while reducing the need for its social systems. A lot of what has changed in World of Warcraft over the years come from designers acquiescing to the desires of vocal players (not us, but the casual majority). Most of the time, what people think they want, is not what's good for the game.

Blizzard needed to put their foot down and maintain the foundations of what made their game so good. But the profit model worked so well, there's no way you would convince the company to stray away from the status quo. A game of this scale really needs an authoritarian to make design decisions for the sake of the game, not the company's bottom line.

Edit: I'm sure there are tons of qualified people working at Blizzard. I'm also sure there are people already working/have worked there that are capable of making good design decisions. Making meaningful decisions requires too much clout. E.g. A PvP designer is never going to triumph over PvE rules, but PvE designers can never completely ignore PvP either. It's a mess and needs strong leadership to go anywhere.

#4423291 BANNED

Posted Dizzeeyo on 13 May 2015 - 09:34 PM

View PostXonika, on 13 May 2015 - 09:27 PM, said:

lets be honest who hasnt botted a few levels overnight? the game is shit enough without having to level chars. all the kickbotters get reported so why not just ban the reported people instead of the innocent people
you have an incredibly amusing definition of innocent :)

#4423207 BANNED

Posted Snappi on 13 May 2015 - 08:49 PM

Why would you even bot in current game?
In wotlk leveling was pain in the ass, now you can just dedicate one night for it and youre done.
Lazy ass modern ppl i quess.

#4423144 BANNED

Posted Blexone on 13 May 2015 - 08:32 PM

View PostRegent, on 13 May 2015 - 08:28 PM, said:

Welp Blizzard, you got me, you got me really good.

It was so awful of me using a bot to level my alts.

Wow, I cheated so hard, I can't believe I ruined everyone elses gameplay by leveling my own alts using a bot!!!!!

Its a good thing you are going after the real cheaters, and letting the people who wintrade, and ddos go free, they are obviously not worth your time.

Blizzard is dead, and WoW will be dead before the end of the year.

yeah uhm.. no. If you botted, no matter in what way, you deserved the ban imo.

#4418157 The State of the Game

Posted Capstone on 03 May 2015 - 04:00 PM

the illusion that the community can make this game better to the extent that it will resemble its former glory is taxing

i saw this post 7 years ago. i might have made it back then

eventually, after being drowned in the futility of optimism that constructive feedback will effect meaningful change, we all crash to the reality that you cannot do anything to make this game better. after your 902nd tweet to holinka or post on your class forums detailing the ways the class could be changed to be more rewarding to everyone playing it and interactive with others, you become desensitized to the obvious neglect of your positive ideas

communities better than ours have tried to improve their decaying interest when it was out of their control and watched it struggle due to neglect. ultimately, we all have the same revelation, which is that the fate of this game is not in our hands

this game was great when blizzard made it great, and lost steam when blizzard neglected it. we had a minimal effect on either. as a matter of fact, if you think the community is shit now, understand that most of the visible community is relatively mature. you should have seen it in vanilla when we were all 16 year old shitheads. it wasn't our attitude that made the game good

it's a great sentiment. i encourage everyone to go post your ideas in that thread. i don't think it'll have a significant long term positive impact, and if you have been playing this game as long as i have, neither do you

#4415859 if u hate the game click this

Posted drzy on 27 April 2015 - 10:26 PM

View PostLightningx, on 27 April 2015 - 10:11 PM, said:

RIP. S15, my first gladiator season. I can only hope the future for this game can be as bright as I now see the past once was

and thats probably why you think it was the best season, not because it actually was, because you're  biased (no fault of your own).

#4408388 warrior self heals

Posted Noxnoxnox on 10 April 2015 - 06:24 PM

View PostTheed, on 10 April 2015 - 05:33 PM, said:

Retarded Enh Offheals and low cd cocoon make it almost impossible to kill a warrior in turbo.

#4414875 Holinka you failed this game

Posted Thasta on 25 April 2015 - 05:19 PM

I don't know why everyone blames Holinka for all of the problems or balance or whatever in PvP.. WoW is a PvE game, Holinka is a senior PvP designer, he probably has little say in how abilities are balanced. Until PvP is separated from PvE and redesigned so it can grow in its own direction,(which would take time, money and resources Blizzard seemingly doesn't want to spend) this is probably about as good as it's going to get. I think Holinka has done a very good job with what he's been given considering his input is probably very limited when it comes to the big picture of WoW.

#4409642 6.2 patch notes

Posted Tsx on 14 April 2015 - 12:45 PM

How many times do you have to go through this to realise that this is a pve game and these are pve changes? stop whining 24/7.

#4409428 6.2 patch notes

Posted Noxnoxnox on 14 April 2015 - 05:49 AM

View PostGlink, on 14 April 2015 - 05:13 AM, said:

Warriors now unkillable (class was too punishable before I guess lol)

5% buff makes u unkillable taking notes

#4409012 Holinka appreciation thread

Posted Nisslol on 13 April 2015 - 08:37 AM

View PostROKMODE, on 13 April 2015 - 12:08 AM, said:

Holinka if ur reading this
open a blizzard wotlk arena realm with minor balance patches+no shadowmourne
You'll win the community's hearts


#4406252 warrior self heals

Posted Covlol on 02 April 2015 - 04:51 PM

Warrior healing is where everyone else's should be.

#4406738 People getting banned on twitch for streaming vanilla servers.

Posted Lolflay on 04 April 2015 - 06:12 AM

View PostSpeedymart, on 04 April 2015 - 04:12 AM, said:

Just make legit vanilla realms already and be done with it, if not then sit there and watch your sub count drop

Here's the problem with that statement - I'm actually enjoying the game right now compared to Cata/MoP, for what it is - a casual MMO game which lets me casually play with my friends and be successful in it. I might be in the minority, but hear me out.

Regarding arena, sure, facing certain comps is fucking aids, however that's to be expected with this being a melee friendly season - in most cases it's a retarded melee cleave or RMD, in rare cases it's something like Demo LSD and Godcomp which managed to miss the memo about game being uber melee centric right now and wizardcleaves not being viable.

Now let's forget for a moment that Holinka feels like a incompetent guy that just got hired for publicity stunt ( "hi guys we have your pvp guy here" ), and that arena is not heading in the right direction - there's not been a last season of the expansion so far that has been worse than its first few. 6.2 for example HAS to bring certain adjustments to certain specs, maybe even return some of the purged abilities, not because of the PvP population but because the PvE population is whining about the lack of versatility they once had.


Regarding PvE content, I don't remember PvE being this good for a long while. I hated Cataclysm PvE content, I hated Mists of Pandaria PvE content. WoD PvE content is just fine.

I hate Garrisons, and I hate the fact that Blizzard is not forcing us to go into the world. But that's okay, because I only log for PvE and for arena. Seeing a person outdoors is the exception rather than the norm, and that's an aspect of the game I'd like to see them return - that's the ONLY aspect of the game that vanilla has over any other expansion, the rest of the game is fucking shit compared to now. Vanilla PvE is ten times worse, I'd cut my dick off before grinding ranks again, and collecting 900 gold for level 60 mount is aids as fuck.

View PostMetaclassx, on 04 April 2015 - 05:34 AM, said:

If they made a Vanilla Server, then a WoTLK server, and just deleted whatever current expansion they were working on, I would continue to play the game.

Would you really ? I'm the first one on this forum to constantly talk how previous WoW's were better than whatever the current expansion is, but I wouldn't pay them a single penny to play vanilla again. I had my fun in vanilla, unlike most of you who are posting here, I started WoW back in 2004 on release on US realms when I was 14 and I played through entire vanilla as a hardcore raider and PvP'r. I dearly remember that time as I met a lot of awesome people ( I also remember a redneck we had in our raids that once had to AFK to help his mare give birth to a pony or something ), and enjoyed the great game WoW was. I'm the first one who will never play vanilla again - vanilla suffers from the ex syndrome.

Similarly, I had the most fun, PvP wise, in Wrath, and I'd NEVER play a progressive Wrath realm. S5 was fucking HORRIBLE, S6 was fucking HORRIBLE. S7 and S8 were fucking awesome, but mostly because of the people. Facing Hydra's RMP on stormscale on a team I'm boosting, learning a few new tricks that makes beating other RMP's a breeze, facing Barburas and learning how to beat other Warriors consistently. The community on Arenajunkies...

At one point you guys have to take your rose tinted glasses off.

#4406682 People getting banned on twitch for streaming vanilla servers.

Posted Dizzeeyo on 03 April 2015 - 11:27 PM

shame people can't get banned on here for repeatedly spamming the same rubbish about how awesome the cata server is :)

#4406680 People getting banned on twitch for streaming vanilla servers.

Posted Metaclassx on 03 April 2015 - 11:15 PM

It's unofficial content that's licensed to them. I don't understand why anyone could possibly think they would want a potential new player to go to twitch looking for World of Warcraft content, and stumble across a vanilla stream instead of the current game, especially since the vanilla stream isn't even really being run by blizzard. Lore and other devs specifically pointed out that it was not allowed over Twitter when asked about it.
Idk, not sure why people are surprised.