About disc vs holy, first of all disc in arena will never be good for the following reasons:
-The spec can't be buffed; as of today, using top 100 25m HC parses, disc priest averages 263k hps(second after shamans), holy priest averages 171k. So they can't buff stuff like mana efficiency , healing output etc for disc.
-As mentioned, battle fatigue and absence of 3x grace protection make things tragic for the spec.
-The spec is expected to work with atonement. In pvp, it doesn't work as you can't holy fire for 200k. It is more like 20k crit, into battle fatigue'd heal.
As for scaling, there is a reason why disc priest is %50 better than holy at high gear raiding environment. Holy priest scaling is comical and after playing some games on PTR I think it's pretty obvious that holy is going to be the pvp spec anyway. So it turns out that, the worst pve healer spec is the arena spec for priests.
On top of everything, priests got almost every cool iconic ability either nerfed or removed with close to no compensation.(as mentioned by posters above). So we are at a point where priest is: -The only healer that doesn't have an additional cc break -The only healer that almost every enemy comp can break their cc without trinket. -The only healer that the enemy team can land a kill through uninterrupted healing.
Also we are always so bad, we need to overwhelm Blizzard with arguments, ideas, "proof" that our class is horrible, so that they introduce buffs that allow us arena participation.A couple of months ago we got lucky with Pom bug, excluding that, priest is gonna end up as 5th best healer of the expansion. Paladins have similar problems, except they often start good end up terrible, and they need to spam forums for buffs so that they can be somewhat viable. I think educating Blizzard should not be part of the process of playing/enjoying a class, They have access to numbers, they know as we do that priests have done horribly, so did paladins but they chose not to buff. I mean really look how bad priests and paladins are and look how great shamans and druids are.
So my advice is, just reroll immediately, possibly to shaman as the classes share some characteristics and stop wasting time with posts , with the hopes of getting buffed to a "viable" state. And finally, if you are making it work, kudos and best of luck to you.
That's called using my brain. Don't be upset you're getting outplayed.
You can choose to use a particular strategy if you think that has the maximum chance of winning, even though it involves only leaving pillar when huntard sac, wall/bubble are up and then going back to pillar to wait out wings, then repeat until the game ends. It's up to you.
Just don't be upset that people call you what you exactly are, a pillar humping faggot that has the stomach to play that gay.
plz braindance is an unbiased pillar of the oxford university community
Are you secretly gay for Braindance? Why are you immediately popping in every thread that contains a post of his? Every time the guy posts, it ends up you attacking him and derailing the thread.
Honestly, don't you think stuff he wrote are trivial problems that majority of the community have been complaining/suggesting?
it's not war/mage/x. The problem is exactly WMD. There is no comparable melee to warrior, no caster is close to mage and no healer is close to druid.
As pointed out, mage can not be purged when he is playing with a druid. And with temp shield he can not really die.
All non druid comps suffer from the same problem. They can't outheal effectively warrior damage meanwhile druid teams offer disorient/root and a full guaranteed clone on warrior every ~20 seconds which allows mages to actually do a lot of harm on the other team.
So, I realize that Holy is the way to go now. I just got back to WoW (after taking a big hiatus since 5.2), and I've been very used to Discipline priest in PvP. I absolutely adore the shields and bubbles, and I love grace.
I tried Holy for a few 2s and 3s, but I feel like I still prefer Discipline over Holy - I don't feel like I'm using chastise very much.
So, this boils down to a single question: is Discipline still viable?
well, this was brought up in a 5.4 release discussion, all elitist gorillas who said it's gonna be a matter of preference and/or disc is gonna be the choice of pros, are now playing holy.
So you go figure.
Some people are either really stingy or are lacking severe real world/money experience.
You see something you enjoy, you just tip because you feel like it. Same as seeing some guy playing guitar at the metro station.
I can sub/donate to a streamer even though I watch him maybe 1 hour(?) a week, simply because I want to support the guy and I believe every bit helps if they are doing this as part time jobs etc. I am not gonna sub and find it stupid because i don't get anything concrete in return, I mean seriously what did you expect to get for 5 dollars, health insurance?
That said I don't think Reckful deserves any donation/subscription but that's my opinion. And also:
ROKMODE, on 11 November 2013 - 10:45 AM, said:
>is rich as fuck supposedly
>gets mad that viewers don't like ads and don't donate for him to sit on his ass all day playing WoW
He should go back to playing small stakes poker and donate some of his wow winnings to the poker community.
cataclysm destroyed the feeling of sitting in bg forums f5ing on arenajunkies all night when it killed arena
Lol 3 years ago it was WoTLK that killed arena, now it's cata, tomorrow it'll be pandaria or whatever this thing is called. Games progress, nothing is killed, they just evolve. It's so boring watching people repeat the same exact cycle of disdain, x killed y, y killed z.
400k enhancement burst in 2 globals? Please, everyone reacts to it after the first zap. (also refer to your list of ccs with added disarm). Only way you can take 400k dmg from an enhancement shaman is you sit infront of him like a retard without reacting for like 7-8 seconds(?) while all his shit is up, and keep in mind that he doesn't shut down the guy that he is attacking when he is bursting.
And mage burst never comes out of blue? Yeah I feel really happy when I die in a deep silence by mage while my partners get pom sheepd or rof'd , or when I am in a pom poly + silence and someone gets %100-0'd in a deep. Why? Because this is ok, it didn't come out of the blue, I saw the frozen orb animation, so I had an ~8second animated notification before the loss.
The reason I responded to you is, you subconsciously or biasedly felt the need to talk about interrupts and cc forms and you couldn't bring yourself to say that there is nothing as unmanageable and as high burst as mage burst in the game, period.
3.2sec from 100 to 0 without Eleblast even critting, and without Stormlash proc. If Eleblast would have critted or Stormlash would have procced or both, I would have died faster, in 1.5sec (2 globals). Please take into consideration that I had 430k hp when this started and I was wearing double pvptrinkets for extra dmgreduction aswell.
Please tell me how you manage that, and react to it, when you just used a global to apply Living bomb at 0.5sec (or at 380k+ hp) for example. GCD prevents me from using Ice Block at that point.
CrossBlesserx, on 15 October 2013 - 07:27 PM, said:
Stand around somewhere (doesn't matter where) throw some instant heals and eat some instant CC, doesn't matter if you meld / death some cc, more instants flying your way anyway. When you need to fear, step on one of your steroid feathers that make you run almost as fast as mounted ppl and run five times around the arena in spectral guise and land every fear on who ever you want on cooldown. Don't bother trying to smite anything, that shit is so WotLK.. Smite does similar dmg to the enemy what wanding someone used to do, waste of global + you have to cast it (also very WotLK thing to do)
We lost a game the other day playing vs double blood dk, my mages health dropped to 94% when they went really offensive... we rejoiced minutes later when they overlapped a few cds and ended up bursting one down to 54%... but after 14 more grueling minutes "yellow team lowest hp 390k" appeared on the top of the screen, i looked at my flag and just burst into tears.... my mage tried to comfort me as i was 1 shot by a male dranei....... i could almost feel the goat creature pressing A+S on his keyboard as i looked on in horror from guardian angel form. He was aquiring his second target...250k deathcoil 1billionk icy touch.... and my friend was dead.
i just wanna play arena again
Good thing you haven't witnessed a squirrel die or something like that. You would have never recovered from that.