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Eldacar

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#3758246 5.4 PVP Power and Resilience Guide

Posted Hyuru on 03 September 2012 - 06:15 AM

im too dumb for this therorycrafting stuff


#3750069 MoP Diminishing returns - updating the list

Posted WildeHilde on 25 August 2012 - 10:15 AM

This version should now be good enough for addon authors to use it. The spell IDs should be correct and although some spells are not categorized, yet, the rest is solid information.

If you cannot write in the general section, please send me a PM if you want to contribute.

[CR] = Controlled Root [CS] = Controlled Stun [DA] = Disarm [DO] = Disorient [F] = Fear [H] = Horror [RR] = Random Root
  • seems gone
[RS] = Random Stun [S] = Silence [N] = None: Abilities that do not share diminishing returns with any other ability but have self-diminishing returns. [NO] = None, not even self: Abilities that do not share diminishing returns with any ability including themselves Contributors

Thanks to all the responders and the people that messaged me for information updates. I will include further participants here, too.


#3758411 5.4 PVP Power and Resilience Guide

Posted hertzuk on 03 September 2012 - 10:41 AM

Haven't read it yet, but it looks nice, so +1!


#3758394 5.4 PVP Power and Resilience Guide

Posted Zerud on 03 September 2012 - 10:15 AM

Could you tell me if PvP power also increases absorbs aswell?


#3758565 5.4 PVP Power and Resilience Guide

Posted Lazeeqt on 03 September 2012 - 04:44 PM

Eldacar restored faith in humanity on AJ


#3758544 5.4 PVP Power and Resilience Guide

Posted Crankyboern on 03 September 2012 - 03:59 PM

very good post - still curious about shields and NS etc. if this scales with PvP power ... ^^


#3758551 5.4 PVP Power and Resilience Guide

Posted Hackattack3 on 03 September 2012 - 04:24 PM

Eldacar,

Thank you for your time and effort in putting this analysis together.  I definitely enjoyed it and it gave me a chance to nerd out for 20 min and take a break from studying :D  It clears up a lot of the misconceptions about the mechanics with pvp power and resilience.  As you said, it is now up to individuals to perform in-game analysis and find the breaking points for their specific classes/specs.  I have two thoughts to add:

1.  Although it looks like resilience scales better than pvp power, I feel pvp power will scale better off "secondary stats".  Resilience and effective health on target will scale primarily with stamina on higher level gear.  PvP power will scale off the primary damage stat (str, int, agil) along with mastery/haste/crit etc.  

2.  I feel stamina is undervalued, especially for classes with passive regeneration based off hp pool.  Example:  an MM hunter can glyph/spec for close to 25% hp regeneration every 10 sec, this should be a factor in a stamina vs resil discussion.


#3758509 5.4 PVP Power and Resilience Guide

Posted WildeHilde on 03 September 2012 - 02:43 PM

We need more posters like you Eldacar.

I have some early numbers for Assasination Rogues, if you are interested: http://www.arenajunk...l/#entry3758449


#3758624 5.4 PVP Power and Resilience Guide

Posted Bloobungle on 03 September 2012 - 05:42 PM

For some reason I thought I had managed to jump over to relatively useful website while reading this. I didn't realize players went into this much detail analyzing PvP on AJ.

I appreciate the time you put into researching this information. Thumbs up doesn't say enough.


#3758629 5.4 PVP Power and Resilience Guide

Posted Libyanator on 03 September 2012 - 05:48 PM

Nice work


#3759106 5.4 PVP Power and Resilience Guide

Posted Vanguards on 04 September 2012 - 08:04 AM

Well done!


#3759175 5.4 PVP Power and Resilience Guide

Posted hertzuk on 04 September 2012 - 10:32 AM

Just got round to sitting down and reading this, really useful post and very well written.


#3758571 5.4 PVP Power and Resilience Guide

Posted Superkåre on 03 September 2012 - 04:51 PM

Good analogies and simple explanations with a great use of language. Such excellently written guides are rare treats around these parts. Hats off to you, OP.


#3758263 5.4 PVP Power and Resilience Guide

Posted pavaska on 03 September 2012 - 06:49 AM

Very impressive.


#3758261 5.4 PVP Power and Resilience Guide

Posted Smallz on 03 September 2012 - 06:47 AM

wow ! n1




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