Ok, so me and some maggot were having a discussion about how in the real world, victims should not be absolved from blame in every circumstance. (Sorta how in any type of car accident case, blame is most likely not 100% on a single person). I made the point that a person subject to a bad event that occurs, should not be absolved of blame just because they are the victim, and this is without taking into account how the person was put into the situation.
Example one: A woman strips off her clothing and lays down on her back in the middle of a dangerous alley in a dangerous part of town. A random stranger comes over and rapes her as she lays there.
Obviously the rapist is at blame for committing this crime, but do you believe that the victim should be absolved of all blame just because she is a victim? (keep in mind this is not meant to be a formal court case or anything I'm just trying to ask a logic question).
Example two: A homosexual boy in a school is hiding his sexual orientation from other schoolmates because they are inherently homophobic and violent towards homosexuals. The boy has several options, go through high school hiding his homosexuality and attempt to exist without people recognizing his sexual orientation; he could try to exist as an open homosexual in the school and subject himself to abuse and torment; or he could try to change the way the school/world is and attack the problem head on.
Do you think that if the boy chose to exist as an open homosexual or to change the way things work, that he should be absolved of all blame for his suffering? (again, keep in mind that this is a logical question, not one based on morality. Please don't respond with "he shouldn't have to hide his sexuality, the world sucks!!!").
Response in spoiler:
My response to the two situations are that the victim should be at least partially blamed. I can't justify taking any amount of blame off of the one doing the criminal act, but I can't justify not having blame attributed to the victim for subjecting themselves to such situations. The person I had the discussion with would like to believe that the victim can never be at fault because they are subject to a cruel world filled with immoral people (which I agree that the world is cruel); however, I would like to think that the victim can be at fault because they failed to recognize that the world is cruel and the situation that they put themselves into could have and should have been avoided.
So in response to the two examples, the woman should have blame attributed to herself for putting herself into the situation, but this should not take away blame from the rapist, and in example two, the student should be able to realize (or ask for help to realize) that the situation he could potentially be putting himself into is one that should be avoided for his own safety.
**once again, I do not condone any of the heinous acts, I just believe that the victim should have some blame in them, be it for naivety or what have you**