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In Topic: Banned players not allowed to qualify for Blizzcon.

03 September 2015 - 10:01 PM

View PostAvengelyne, on 03 September 2015 - 06:05 PM, said:

Two sides to it.. both are right and wrong in ways. Either way, the fault is with Blizzard. They had butchered philosophies when it came to dealing with cheaters for a long time and they've flipped a switch without offering any other incentives to turn to the other side.

Any botters or russian hacker type players should still be banned forever, IMO, regardless of new accounts.. but placing the blame on players taking what was essentially free money for a long is wrong, because there's no other motivation to play. If those players weren't active doing pilots, the queues would just be more dead.

There is very little competition. If you're a top player that's beyond the point where attaining R1 titles is a challenge, what's there to keep you competing? Absolutely nothing, and it's Blizzards fault and it's why blame shouldn't be on players that take free money from doing pilot services.

The fault actually isn't with Blizzard at all.  They have Terms of Service which are clearly laid out for everyone to abide by.  There should never be a need for an "incentive" to keep people from performing any activities that are illegal within the game; that's where morals come in.  

"Placing the blame on players taking what was essentially free money for a long [sic] is wrong, because there's no other motivation to play."  
This excuse is totally inadequate in regards to any type of misbehavior within the game. Blizzard is in no way at fault for this, whatsoever.

In regards to there being little competition at the top, and there being nothing to incentivize players to continue competing at the top: This goes back to the previous point, and to further that point, if you don't want to play due to boredom, lack of competition, the game no longer being fun, etc. then don't play.  It never gives you the right or the excuse to go against the ToS.

The only fault with Blizzard is the communication, or lack thereof, between themselves and players who are/were participating in regionals and regional qualifiers, as seen in Gelubaba's post.  However, inconsistencies on Blizzard's part still do not allow for inconsistencies on players' parts.  We are held to their ToS, not them to ours.


P.S. I know I sound like I'm affiliated with Blizzard in some form, but everything stated above should be common sense to most people.  I know you'd like there to be a way around it, but breaking the rules is just that, breaking the rules.  How they choose to punish you after you do so is under their discretion, and no one should expect anything different.

In Topic: BANNED

14 May 2015 - 11:01 AM

View PostMallerd, on 14 May 2015 - 08:50 AM, said:

Thats true but people here cant seem to understand that there is a difference between people who botted to lv and the people who used hb to gain an advantage over other players in both pve and pvp i.e fully automated dps rotation bots and what not.  

The only reason why blizzard didnt perma ban everyone is that it would hurt them soo much more than this already does.

I'm fairly sure everyone understands the difference between people who botted leveling and people who used Honorbuddy to gain an unfair advantage in PvE or PvP.  However, you, along with many others cannot seem to understand that REGARDLESS of how you used the bot, it still remains a bannable offense, and is against the ToS.  Seeing all these people try to justify botting or trying to justify a reduction of their ban "sentence" is pathetic.  Whether you botted PvE, PvP, leveling, or a multitude of other things is beyond irrelevant.  Accept the consequences or not, what those who were banned did was wrong in regards to the ToS.

In Topic: Shadow Priest RBG Questions

04 April 2015 - 05:53 PM

A concise and constructive reply on AJ. I like it. +1

In Topic: We dem boyz

31 October 2014 - 11:55 PM

View PostCapstone, on 31 October 2014 - 08:05 PM, said:

don't act like you're not impressed

In Topic: Cheating, AJ & You

31 October 2014 - 03:23 AM

View PostDillypoo, on 30 October 2014 - 11:12 AM, said:

If the ladder is filled with people spam doing pilots and sells, then there aren't people truly competing for each spot on the ladder. Using an extreme example the top 5 players can take up a great portion of the top 100 spots with their boosts, making the players who would actually be top 100 without them boosting to get discouraged, unrecognized, and would make them not really care much to get better or care about the game. In a scenario where there is not plenty of boosting emerging onto the top 100 players will allow that up and coming player to get A) known :duckers: by becoming known this will allow them to get noticed by other top players who will then want to play with them. This will give them more experience and make them better players. Up and coming players that get noticed and slightly trained from playing with the veteran or other high level top players will in turn get a lot better, and that cycle continues.

TL;DR by doing too many boosts you prevent newer players from joining the scene which will make the players at the top stagnate, and eventually you lose more of the competition to become the best of the best. Instead of having a ladder where everyone is trying to improve because the rating actually matters, boosting makes it so that people will instead just buy rating so that they don't have to work hard to improve themselves. If the competition only exists at the very top, then the competition overall is so much weaker than it could be.

View PostKettu, on 30 October 2014 - 03:20 PM, said:

That's purely an opinion. They could also see it as a reason or incentive to get better by a larger margin; their effort wasn't enough, next season they'll put even more effort on learning the game so they can compete with the best. Without the boosting, they would've simply reached the shittier end of the top 0,5%, and figured themselves as "elite", or whatever, and not bother to get any better, ever. You're kind of implying the goal of the game is to reach top 0,5%. Where as, in a real competition the goal should actually be to end up as rank 1. And by rank 1, I don't mean top 0,1%.

Besides, I doubt anyone who's ever even considered buying a boost to have potentially any chance of becoming a top player. So in a way, it's benefical for the competition when people with that kind of mindset simply buy a title, and never enter arena after that. Sure, the ladder might miss a few players who might've scored duelist after 5 years of practice. But to me that doesn't seem like much of an loss.

What I've highlighted in bold seems, at least to me, like some huge assumptions that probably are not true in most cases.  

People who do not quite get gladiator because of boosting are more likely to have a thought process that is something along the lines of "Well, I didn't get gladiator because of boosters, and I know they will be there again next season, so I might aswell give up" (This would obviously change depending on how many seasons that particular person has played).  I actually know multiple people who have had this outlook on the game and ended up quitting.  However, this also is subject to the individual and how they perceive the game and their ability to improve.  Some people are lazy, or simply do not care enough, while others may be more determined and try again the following season.  


From what I've seen/heard, many of the people that buy arena boosts do so not only for the title, but also for the achievements/Feats of Strength/mounts.  This is usually because they are almost solely PvE players and therefore tend to "collect" mounts/achievements etc.  Because of this, it isn't far-fetched to think they would buy a boost for more than one season or consecutive seasons.

You can't seriously believe that boosters encourage people to improve so they can get their titles next season...

Boosting is detrimental to arena regardless of which way you look at it.

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