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#4246741 Cheating, AJ & You

Posted Dillypoo on Yesterday, 03:24 AM

I read through a majority of these posts and I'm really hoping no one had said this already, but I still feel it's something that people don't consider too often.

Throughout playing wow I was for the most part kind of okay with boosting. It was something I didn't really like, and therefore I did not do it myself, however I still did not complain about any partners or just other high rated players I knew doing it because I would rationalize their reasoning. For some people if they're trying to play the game a very large amount and really enjoy it and wanting to be the best of the best whatever it is etc. they potentially might not be able to put in the time required (Not everyone needs to play the game a lot to stay at the highest level, but some do) because it's not really an efficient use of their time when they need to instead spend that time working. So in order for those people that want to actually be playing all the time similar to how a professional league player would play and practice, I'd rationalize it as them needing the money for to put in that time towards the game they love. And the easiest way for those people to get that money is through boosting.

However, by doing those boosts they end up hurting the competitive environment of the game they love, and also just the ladders. Instead of having the game progress into something those types of people want (i.e an esport on the same popularty of league) regardless of it's something that's possible or not they are still preventing that from happening by causing issues with competition.

But the one thing I believe people don't consider a part of any of this is DDoSing. So obviously it's clear DDoSing is a huge issue right now, people use it to get themselves their undeserved titles and those people cheating that way should be punished. Since DDoSing allows those people to get ratings they themselves couldn't have obtained without cheating, this actually can apply to those players doing Pilots. Because there is money involved in boosting, the type of people that are willing to cheat for things will definitely use that cheating to get a profit for themselves. Now instead of just only top players being able to do Pilots to earn money, you also have people with booters who can do the same thing and can use DDoS as a way to make some of their pilots possible. The same sort of thing can also be applied to wintrading and botters. The same people that will wintrade, bot, and ddos games on their main characters for their title can also do it on pilots now allowing them to get a profit off of something that was not even obtainable to them in the first place.

The TL;DR version of all of that is not everyone that pilots is a wintrading ddoser or botter, but I am pretty positive at least 90% of wintraders, ddosers, and botters will do the same on pilots in order to profit off of the game, and hell I'm sure that some top players that don't wintrade on their mains, would possibly have it done on a pilot to make it easier and less time consuming, and they probably wouldn't really care about doing that because it's not their own account.

Piloting has always been a problem and has always been bad for the game. I'd say now with things like DDoSing becoming more and more common, for blizzard and the community especially (a lot of people will overlook and rationalize piloting as oh well it's not as bad as hacking ddosing wintrading, botting w.e) to look at piloting as just as bad as any other form of cheating in the game as it also enables a bigger rise of the other forms of cheating,


#4245274 Cheating, AJ & You

Posted Primius on 28 October 2014 - 04:03 PM

Cheating is deplorable regardless of who is doing it. Pilots and "Boosting" are just as destructive to the ladder as ddosing/bots.  I can't fathom how people can try to justify selling carries as "ok" or "not that big of a deal".

There should be integrity in the ladder. People go into arena to compete, and there should be integrity within the rule set. Without that there is really no point to competing at all.

I don't care what rating someone happens to be or how good or bad of a player they are. The 1500 player has just as much right to a cheat free ladder as the person that is pushing 3000 rating.  I don't even understand how good or bad a player is factors into if cheating is ok or not.

I remember when I was a player trying to move up. Reading AJ was cool. I couldn't post way back then but for the most part the top end players were constructive, and had positive things to say, and they didn't shit on people that were not as good as they. They tried to help and encourage them to get better.

The AJ Community is complete shit now. Just looking at some of the responses from rank1 players in this game that overall support piloting, and cheating is disgusting.

The game isn't shit, the community at large has made the game feel like shit however.


#4244761 Cheating, AJ & You

Posted Nexxer on 27 October 2014 - 08:38 PM

View Postjaimex, on 27 October 2014 - 08:11 PM, said:

actually nvm i forgot aj was full of random duelists who nobody would ever pay to pilot anybody so

???

You know it's funny, because literally two seasons ago you were exactly that, but hey, at least you are not random now, you are arguably the most annoying and clueless person on this forum :)


#4244701 Cheating, AJ & You

Posted Lolflay on 27 October 2014 - 08:10 PM

View Postjaimex, on 27 October 2014 - 07:42 PM, said:

most people with a problem with boosting are too shit / too unknown to get regular boosts. Hence why they don't like it, people want what they can't have. Most players dont give two shits about whether or not duelist jimmy gets his title cause some big bad r1 player beat him one game at 2400 mmr :(

Oh. My. Fucking. God.

The moment a person actually starts to tolerate you and maybe think that you'll turn out alright in the end, you write shit like this. You're a lost fucking cause, aren't you ? Take it from someone who did more boosting than you've had chance to during your little Ele Shaman escapade - if you're doing it, at least don't be a dick about it. You can't honestly believe boosting is good for this game ?


Here's a personality trait I had before. I used to be extremely hostile towards some players ( who I guess you could call "new kids on the block" ) who got Gladiator/R1 in the past, mostly because I didn't deem them worthy enough ( If I'm > them, why did they get reward >= mine ? )

But even though I was bitter towards them, I've ACCEPTED them. And do you know why ? BECAUSE those players are what keeps ARENA alive.


We have two players, Bob and Murray.

Bob is a guy with 3000 arena games in this season, Bob is a solid Duelist, but he might have a shot at Gladiator in 1000ish more games.

Murray likes chasing tail more than playing arena, but Murray wants Gladiator. Murray decides to buy Gladiator.

Bob gets at the exact rating the cutoff is at. Murray's boost knocks Bob out. Murray walks around with the title, while Bob, a legitimate player who probably would've continued playing arena if not for scumbags, is left in dirt.


Sure, Bob can try next season, and he probably will, but he's been fucked out of a title he worked really hard for, while on another hand, Murray just got his Glad achievement, title and mount, and will probably never participate in arena again at all.




TL;DR - anyone who supports boosting in any way is fucking retarded.  Timeline of events :

- R1/Gladiator means something, is a prestigious thing to acquire in this game.

- more people start playing arena

- Gladiator cutoffs lower themselves each season ( not proportional to skill )

- morons start sharing R1 titles ( while claiming they don't care about them, interestingly enough they care about them so much they're willing to scout 24/7 and play hard to land at share rating )

- at one point, old, better players start separating themselves from new players ( community divided )

- new players' entry into highrated PvP scene becomes very hard

- boosting starts being a regular thing

- cheating becomes a regular thing

- DDOSing becomes a regular thing

- PvP quality continously declines

- "who gives a shit about this game omfg, new players suck, boosting cheating etc"



You're all fucking hypocrites, and more importantly, morons. Saying you give a shit about a pixelated title doesn't make you less of a person, and taking MASSIVE shits on the thing you love playing for the sake of "reputation" is basically taking shits on yourself. "Yeah man, my hobby totally blows, I'd rather eat hot horse shit than do it, but I'm still doing it". Bunch of imbeciles.


#4245685 Titles not going out today, ban wave still approaches

Posted stalebagel on 28 October 2014 - 10:43 PM

watch kaska get dq'd on ladder but still win blizzcon


#4243792 Skill capped is in blizzcon?

Posted Capstone on 26 October 2014 - 07:26 PM

EU – Skill-Capped EU

Spoiler



#4240930 only took 10 years...

Posted Nexxer on 23 October 2014 - 12:15 PM

View PostBluBlu, on 23 October 2014 - 11:46 AM, said:

I wonder if American's will start hating Aussies now like Europeans hate the Russians and their laggy bullshit

we dont hate russians because of their "laggy bullshit". We hate them because no european player play triple rogue at 3k and fly out of the map :)


#4235443 Protip if you happen to look retarded with new models.

Posted Marshmellow on 17 October 2014 - 09:50 PM

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Kreygasm


#4234945 Protip if you happen to look retarded with new models.

Posted Bawn on 17 October 2014 - 08:29 AM

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wtf


#4234228 Protip if you happen to look retarded with new models.

Posted Bakpao on 16 October 2014 - 02:03 PM

Hi :duckers:

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#4234189 Protip if you happen to look retarded with new models.

Posted Savoh on 16 October 2014 - 01:15 PM

View PostSosseri, on 15 October 2014 - 10:55 PM, said:

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Isis has invaded wow


#4233685 Protip if you happen to look retarded with new models.

Posted Sosseri on 15 October 2014 - 10:55 PM

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#4233586 Protip if you happen to look retarded with new models.

Posted Wallirik on 15 October 2014 - 09:43 PM

View PostDillypoo, on 15 October 2014 - 09:13 PM, said:

You can also go into system>advanced>disable new models.
why would you remove this?

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#4232650 Exumbra/Swull/Lxxi wintrading/ddosing to rank 1

Posted Dillypoo on 15 October 2014 - 05:16 AM

View PostStupidratard, on 14 October 2014 - 03:21 AM, said:

Lols I'm not Aussie if you knew anything you would know that. "Alphamaleirl", I bet you make Dillypoo look like Kai Greene.

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the forest of Elwynn, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Orgrimar, and I have over 300 confirmed honorable kills. I am trained in wyvern warfare and I’m the top hunter in the entire US mongoloid forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on Azeroth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting Kaska and his secret network of rats across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for Different, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your arena rating. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be on any character, any map, and I can kill farm you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my forehead. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of Swifty’s pinky and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of Kalmidor, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead at blizzcon, kiddo.


#4231741 Exumbra/Swull/Lxxi wintrading/ddosing to rank 1

Posted Lirox on 14 October 2014 - 03:31 PM

man the harpoons this bitch is back




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