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#3905563 Feral PvP Guide (5.3)

Posted Kerberus on 28 June 2013 - 07:32 PM

Hello there current and aspiring Furballs

Having observed the recent decline in numbers of active PvP'ers and after seeing a few posts (on the official forums) filled with basic questions about how to PvP as a Feral and never seeing an answer that really satisfied me, I've decided to write a fairly comprehensive Feral PvP Guide. This guide includes not only basic things like gearing, gemming and enchanting, it also takes a look at how to deal damage, feral gameplay in general and some other specifics.


I chose not to write it on the forums as spreading it elsewhere would have meant a lot of extra work and I wouldn't have been able to design it the way I wanted. Link to PDF:

https://jumpshare.co...7J5Eltihn565Av3 (updated to v1.4)

Hopefully, this guide will answer most of your questions regarding Feral PvP. Should you have more questions, have an idea on what else to include or would like to tell me how wrong I am on everything, feel free to reply to me here and I'll answer as best I can. I will try to keep it updated, be that for a new patch or inbetween.

Enjoy!

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Here's the table of contents for those too lazy to take a look:

Welcome! 3
About the author 3
1. Getting started: Gear and a million choices 4
1.1 Gearing 4
1.1.1 Furry Gladiator’s Sanctuary 4
1.1.2 Gems and Enchants 5
1.1.3 Reforging 7
1.2 Talents and Glyphs 7
1.2.1 Talent choices 7
1.2.2 Glyphs 10
2. Dealing Damage 12
2.1 Core Abilities and Priorities 13
2.1.1 But wait, there’s more! 14
2.2 Damage Cooldowns and Burst 14
2.3 Wrap-up 15
3. Feral Gameplay 16
3.1 So… what do I actually do? 16
3.1.1 Utility 18
3.2 Healing and Defense 19
3.2.1 Defensive Cooldowns 19
3.2.2 Playing defensively 20
3.3 Symbiosis 20
3.4 Match-ups 21
4. Macros, Professions etc. 23
4.1 Common and Useful Macros 23
4.2 Professions 24
4.3 Race Choice 24
5. Appendix 25
5.1 Symbiosis table 25
5.2 Change Log 25
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#3894426 New Debuff: Bitch Sickness

Posted Colard on 03 June 2013 - 07:55 AM

Retard sickness : when you're playing 3v3 Arena and spam icelance like a retard the whole game, you contract Retard Sickness. After thirty seconds you get kicked from the game unless you stop playing like a retard.


#3894145 Do you lose respect for players that FOTM reroll every patch?

Posted flannelsoff on 02 June 2013 - 06:31 AM

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#3894130 Do you lose respect for players that FOTM reroll every patch?

Posted ohnoes on 02 June 2013 - 04:59 AM

my hunter is level 13, started yesterday


#3894373 5.4 PvP Changes

Posted Oakenwynd on 03 June 2013 - 02:51 AM

CrossRealm Arenas. Make it so.


#3894354 5.4 PvP Changes

Posted Oldog on 03 June 2013 - 01:07 AM

only change that will matter is a battlegroup merge


#3892194 Are ret paladins S5-S6 op or are people just exagerating?

Posted flannelsoff on 27 May 2013 - 04:14 AM

View PostPouncedd, on 27 May 2013 - 03:55 AM, said:

Why do hunter's need a nerf? We just got nerfed coming into 5.3
LOL


#3891637 The return of Samulex

Posted Saregar on 25 May 2013 - 01:25 PM

who gives a fuck seriously...retarded fanboys i guess.
get a life dude seriously, the fact you made this video is just horrifying.


#3890167 Arena is kind of ridic right now

Posted Icekingx on 22 May 2013 - 07:38 AM

View Postxandek, on 22 May 2013 - 04:43 AM, said:

sick brag
Says the warrior with S12 glad...


#3890015 Arena is kind of ridic right now

Posted Marshmellow on 22 May 2013 - 01:32 AM

View PostTropicalice, on 22 May 2013 - 01:19 AM, said:

just got farmed by a 2k jungle cleave it;s the biggest counter for thug so fucking dumb

I don't even feel bad for you, fucking scumbag


#3871115 Shadow Priest PvP Guide (5.2)

Posted Iwn on 05 April 2013 - 01:22 AM

Shadow Priest PvP Guide (5.2)

Note: I am no multi gladiator, rank one or even considered to be one of the top shadow priests but I can give you an idea of how the class works and how I play it.
I took Vanguard's enhance guide as an example and used his formula for my guide. I saw a post on the forum here the other day about helping the community out, so I wanted to make this guide for new SPs and old ones returning. This might not be the best guide and you might not even agree with some of the things I say but I tried my best.

Talents
For shadow priests there are really no set of talents that gives you the best possible choice. It all depends on who you're facing and who you're playing with. I like to experiment a lot when it comes to talents but I will try go give you a simple guide on how to choose yours.

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Level 15:
Recommended: Psyfiend
This is the standard cookie cutter level 15 talent. The talent itself is poorly designed and can in some cases be extremely useful, and in other cases extremely wasted. I like to take it vs. most comps unless we face some melee cleaves  like TSG and Kitty Cleave.

Recommended: Void Tendrils
This is recommended to take vs a lot of melee cleaves. It's a good and reliable ability to have vs. melee cleaves training your team. (Note that it DRs with other roots)

Level 30:
Recommended: Phantasm
In 5.1 this was a must have talent. But since the nerf in 5.2 priests have a more open choice when it comes to the level 30 talent. I personally go with Phantasm because the 5 seconds freedom can help land fears and etc.

Recommended: Angelic Feather
This is a useful talent when playing with a holy paladin. When he gives you freedom and you use this ability you gain a 60% speed increase for the duration. Extremely useful in some cases.

Level 45:
Recommended: Solace and Insanity
Commonly referred to as "Insanity" this new priest talent have proven itself to be extremely powerful vs. many teams. The raw damage output, often combined with Power Infusion, is enough to sometimes solo a healer in a blanket silence. Note that taking this requires you to be able to free cast for the duration. Maybe not the best choice vs. melee teams.

Recommended: From Darkness, Comes Light
You can't go wrong with this. Basically it gives you 40k+ Mind Spikes if you're lucky enough to have your Vampiric Touch providing you with a proc. Stacking up two procs, 3 orbs with dots on healer in a Deep Freeze or Silence is enough damage to force defensives from most healers if you're able to set it up right.

Alternative: Mindbender
Can be useful vs some comps like melee teams training you. Provides you with sufficient mana regeneration, and gives a nice burst when getting trained. I like to use this vs. KFC training me because I don't have much time free casting and using Mindbender when going for the kill is a good option.

Level 60:
Highly recommended: Spectral Guise
Spectral Guise makes you invisible for 6 seconds or until you're mirror image is hit three times. Can be extremely useful vs. casters and for landing fears on healers. (Note that putting a shield on yourself before using this can help you stay stealthed longer when having dots on you)

Recommended: Angelic Bulwark
Getting trained by melee cleaves is always tough. Maybe extra tough for SPs as they don't have an ability like blink or teleport. Angelic Bulwark is useful vs. melee cleaves in my opinion. Being trained hard makes Spectral Guise almost useless and they hit your mirror image so fast you instantly get out of stealth. Angelic Bulwark may help you survive in some cases.

Level 75:
Highly recommended: Divine Insight
You get a chance whenever your Shadow Word: Pain deals damage to get a free, instant Mind Blast. In for example 3v3 where you put up three Shadow Word: Pain the procs won't be rare.

Recommended: Power Infusion
Provides an extreme burst combined with Insanity. Requires you to be able to free cast and is not recommended to take without the Insanity talent.

Level 90:
Recommended: Divine Star
Provides a nice heal but don't take it in your DPS rotation, you're better off dispelling something.

Recommended: Halo
Can be extremely good in many cases. Setting up burst on a healer or healing a team mate inside a Smoke Bomb this ability can either save a life or take one. Standing at the max range (30 yards) with Trinket and CDs up it can heal for 200k and hit for 100k. Also good for killing Psyfiends etc.


Glyphs
As with the talents it all depends on what you're meeting.
Prime Glyphs:
Must have:
Dark Binding - Extremely useful and saves you a lot of global CDs.
Options:
Fade - Nice vs. teams training you.
Inner Fire - Good vs. melee teams training you.
Mass Dispel - Really good for getting your healer out of CC and removing bubble and Ice Blocks. (Note this is changing is 5.3)
Prayer of Mending - Gives your PoM a nice buff.
Shadow Word: Death - Nice vs. mages to avoid getting Polymorphed.
Dispersion - Can be useful.

Major Glyphs:
The choice is yours!


Gems - Enchants - Stats
Priorities for Stats:
6% Hit>Resil>PvP Power>Intellect>Haste>Crit>Mastery>Other

The big question, Mastery vs. Crit?
This ultimately goes down to if you want to  top the leaderboards on damage or actually kill your target. Top SPs go for crit. Some might still go for mastery but crit can help you kill targets. I am going to quote Talbadar (arguably the best SP) on this one:
"Crit provides more burst damage when going for kills than Mastery does. I heard Mastery doesn't give extra proc benefits and possibly no mana (still unsure about this). All I care about is the kill, not just extra damage."
I agree with Talbadar on this one, but after some testing on dummy I found out that the extra dot ticks gives you extra mana. But in the end mana isn't how you win a game.

Recommened Gems:
Meta - 216 Intellect and +3% Crit Damage
Red - 80 Intellect and 160 PvP Resilience
Yellow - 320 PvP Resilience
Blue - 160 PvP Power and 160 PvP resilience

Recommended Reforging:
Get 6% Hit for the cap (note spirit gives hit)
Reforge for off-stat. I personally recommend Haste>Crit>Mastery

Recommended Enchants:
Shoulders - 200 Intellect and 100 Crit
Back - 180 Intellect
Chest - 200 Resilience
Bracer - 180 Intellect
Gloves - 170 Haste
Legs - 285 Intellect and either 165 Crit or Spirit depending if you need hit or not.
Feet - Movement Speed and 140 Mastery
Main Hand - Jade Spirit
Off-hand - 165 Intellect

Main Hand / Off-hand vs. staff:
Staff gives you more crit/spirit but Main Hand / Off-hand provides more Intellect so I recommend getting that.

Professions:
Blacksmithing is currently the best PvP profession, and teamed up with either Jewelcrafting or Enchanting they provide some nice buffs to your stats.

What is your PvP rotation?
I personally get my dots up rolling first. Then I try to get of Mind Blasts as soon as they're ready for these good Shadow Orbs and if I have nothing to do I spam dispel kill target and healer.
When I'm going for the kill I usually have 3 orbs before I dot up the target, (Halo), Mind Blast, three orb Devouring Plague and if I have Insanity I Mind Flay.

Macros and Keybindings
These are personal macros and keybindings as you may copy and use if you want to. Note you do not need these macros or keybindings to perform well, althought I can't play without them! :) I recommend having your own keybindings.
For party macros I hate using Party1 and Party2 and they always seem to change.
Party targeting:
I target my healer with CTRL-Mousewheeldown and DPS with CTRL-Mousewheelup

S - Power Word: Shield team mates
#show
/cast [nomod, target=teammate1] Power Word: Shield
/cast [mod:shift, target=teammate2] Power Word: Shield

Shift-V and Ctrl-V - Lifegrip team mates
#show
/cast [target=teammate1 or 2] Leap of Faith

Arena targeting:
I target arena1,2,3 with scroll up, middlemouse and scroll down.

Focus Silence
#show
/cast [target=focus] Silence

Focus Psychic Horror
#show
/cast [target=focus] Psychic Horror

Spam-able Mass Dispel
#show
/cast !Mass Dispel

Spam-able Shadow Form
#show
/cast !Shadowform

Spam-able Mind Flay
#show
/cast [nochanneling] Mind Flay

Power Infusion Burst Macro
#show
/cast Power Infusion
/use 13 (or 14 depending on where you got your dps trinket)

Focus Dispel
#show
/cast [target=focus] Dispel Magic

What PvP Gear Should I Get?
You can of course perform well with any gear but I recommend following a top SP and see how he gears up his character.
Some armories of Top SPs.
Talbadar: http://us.battle.net...lbadar/advanced
Khryl: http://us.battle.net.../Khryl/advanced
Chromix: http://eu.battle.net...hromix/advanced
Evleh: http://eu.battle.net...Evlehj/advanced
And for reference, mine: http://eu.battle.net...eyzlol/advanced

Shadow PvP Streams
There aren't many Top SPs streaming. Some do, but only occasionally.
http://twitch.tv/talbadar - Overlord Talbadar's stream.
http://twitch.tv/chromix - Chromix's stream.
http://twitch.tv/khryl - Khryl's stream.

Thanks for reading through the post. I hope this helped you out if you needed help. If you have any other questions feel free to post in the comments and I will try to give a good answer. I'm sure other SPs will also contribute to providing answers.
If you feel I have failed miserably on this guide please give me a constructive reply and how I can change it to make it better.

By Neyzlol - Sylvanas


#3864913 Mystic | Rank 1 WMD | 44-3

Posted Mystzr on 21 March 2013 - 07:02 PM

Hey, this is my first release.

It starts with my last recorded game on cyclone before going for rank 1 at the end of season 12 on my under geared warrior.

All games from the rank 1 push are WMD.

Thanks for watching and I hope you enjoy the video.



SONG LIST

Ellie Goulding - Figure 8 (Xilent Remix)

Rusko - Pressure (Original Mix)

Two Steps From Hell - SkyWorld (SkyWorld)

Submatik - Stories Can Wait

Halo 4 - Green & Blue (KOAN Sound Remix)


#3842022 Blizzard's Arbitrary RBG Rating Reset

Posted Dylon187 on 29 January 2013 - 10:15 PM

So what you're sayin is........

you bought gladiator in s9.


#3477513 The official Buglamp/Raux/Verk/Bloodriot thread.

Posted Duckers on 09 September 2011 - 07:37 AM

Good to know most of the stuff I don't want to read has the possibility of being contained to a single thread.


#3475287 why do atheists celebrate christmas

Posted Gabbitlol on 07 September 2011 - 06:53 PM

It's a day to get together with family, who the fuck cares if someone is an atheist or not anyways, atheist can be good people.




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