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In Topic: RPX and Thug

23 July 2014 - 07:09 AM

Thanks for all the responses guys, I spoke to him last night and it seems he's already decided to play Shadow, so :rogue: :priest: :shaman: it is.

Have any of you guys streamed RPS in 5.4 or know anyone that has? :confused:

I'm guessing I should be trying to Sap off fears and lining up Tricks with Orbs, but if you guys could give me any tips I would really appreciate it

In Topic: Why is BoS still in WoD :c

04 July 2014 - 12:06 PM

I like BOS, bite me.

They should make ShS on par and hand out a free kleenex to go with the patch notes tho, that way people can get their heart rate back on track.

Maybe they could give it a 2 sec Freedom with the speed increase and keep the CD at 20 sec.

In Topic: Does anyone actually mangle? [Feral]

20 May 2014 - 05:46 PM

View Postrob-hype, on 19 May 2014 - 06:38 PM, said:

Interesting closing note:Next Expansion they are removing mangle and the shred positional requirement entirely, so this is only until WOD.

That and Savage Roar AFAIK which should make it much easier with less to monitor... I won't miss Savage Roar at all, tho as I said above I really wish they would keep the Mangle animation and sound.

Beyond the situational uses of Mangle there are a lot of sources that suggest Mangle is a DPS increase over Shred outside of procs and Berserk etc. In PvP I'm guessing this will be determined primarily by up-time and comp, how do you base Shred being better when you consider combo point generation for max SR + Rip uptime + FB's? More burst definitely, more sustained damage debatable...

In Topic: Does anyone actually mangle? [Feral]

19 May 2014 - 05:49 PM

Except it's not so obvious which is why this thread and these forums exist in the first place. Your previous response boiled down to 'You're dumb... Shred is better'.

We're debating the damage lost by substituting Shred with Mangle based on getting bleeds etc up vs doing more damage on your CP generating ability which isn't completely obvious - though I feel we've started reaching a consensus.

Why post at all if you just feel you need to be patronising? It just undermines anything useful you might say...

In Topic: Does anyone actually mangle? [Feral]

19 May 2014 - 11:15 AM

Found a bit more info floating around but I'm not 100% sure if it's accurate:

(taken from some dudes on MMO champion)
Shred and Mangle has the same weapon scaling but Shred has 20% extra damage on bleeding targets. Mangle costs 35 energy whereas Shred costs 40 energy. If you use shred you benefit with 5% more damage per energy spent. If you use mangle you win with 12.5% more energy.
Shred vs Mangle: Mangle does win with a very small number. The benefit in using Mangle is that you'll build the combo points faster and the rotation will feel slightly (If any difference at all) smoother. Thought the rule will be...
*If you have 70+ Enegry Shred
*If you have OoC up and thrash is up Shred it(If you where to use mangle)
*If you have berserk up use Shred
Mangle is much much more forgiving when you want to generate combo points quickly and generally means you have more to play with. For the damage gain from using shred it's not worth it. So much of our damage is bleed-based and auto attack now, roughly 55-65% and 10-13% respectively for me personally. And mangle just allows you to maintain bleed up times more efficiently than shred would.

Seems legit to me and corresponds to what Mr Shift is saying...