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#1 Sura

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Posted 08 September 2009 - 11:51 AM

i've seeen a very few rogues going with that spec with master poisoners and i was wondering if anyone in this forum has tried it out.

i tried it out today while i was bg'ing so coudn't really figure the diffrences since i'm not using recounts, but does master poisoner effect goes same on my party members dps as well? or just myself? cuz if its only for myself,, i don't really see a huge benefit of this talent over dual weapon spec..

i just got back to wow and missing quite few things and i thought regular build was still 41 / 5/ 25 but ya, if anyone has some thoughts on this spec, please leave on comments plz

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Posted 08 September 2009 - 11:56 AM

the point of the spec is for 3% crit for party, and -50% poison duration, its mostly for mirror games vs other rmp's
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Posted 08 September 2009 - 12:03 PM

i could see that i guess, but would 3% crit+ will help my mage since mages nowadays have so much crit chance with shatter?

maybe i should just download recount and try it today with both 44/2/25 and 41/5/25 spec
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Posted 08 September 2009 - 12:08 PM

you lose damage from mutilates with the spec, but 3 crit is 3 crit.
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Posted 08 September 2009 - 12:41 PM

you lose damage from mutilates with the spec, but 3 crit is 3 crit.


fact is, the rogue in RMP does less then 40% of the mage in burst damage, you do more dmg total (Atleast you should) since the mage is controling while you tunnelvision your target, but in burst? the mage wins by far so the 30% less dmg from offhand wont even be noticable, the specc is more like, better survival in mirrors and better offnuke for your priest/mage.
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Posted 08 September 2009 - 01:56 PM

44/2/25 or bust
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Posted 08 September 2009 - 02:24 PM

44/2/25 or bust


Why?
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Posted 08 September 2009 - 02:37 PM

Well considering in RMP mirrors the rogue is the focus i would assume its used for peeling the rogue enough for the 4secs wound poisen lasts for will full off for bigger heals giving the rogue alot more survivability + the 3% crit could make that one attack you need crit other than the person living with <5% hp.
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Posted 08 September 2009 - 02:40 PM

Alright, thanks.
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Posted 08 September 2009 - 02:41 PM

Don't take my word on it that was all a guess.
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Posted 08 September 2009 - 03:28 PM

f dat its all about the tunnel vision damage MORE DAMAGE = GOOD 41/5/25 4lyfe
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Posted 08 September 2009 - 04:27 PM

I'm using it too, I like it for High armor teams, been fooling around with deadly poison and its really not all that bad for RLS. the only thing that deadly would fuck up on a switch is my own blind or gouge(RMP can be alot more touchy with sheeps). It's also going to be incredible vs plate once 3.2.2 goes through, buffing envenom and master poisoner.
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Posted 08 September 2009 - 04:49 PM

I always thought specing into MP was so you can Envenom vs. plate teams and have DP stacks come back up quickly...
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Posted 08 September 2009 - 05:16 PM

@Leber: You say buffing envenom in 3.2.2, in what way?
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Posted 08 September 2009 - 05:22 PM

I love doing 15% less mutilate and white damage.
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Posted 08 September 2009 - 05:37 PM

with the envenom scaling buff, the recent deadly poison scaling buff, and incoming MP buff, I will definately be trying this spec out, against cleave the through plate damage, when timed with destro burst should be ridiculous.
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Posted 08 September 2009 - 05:50 PM

koreans been using it for 2 seasons now.
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Posted 08 September 2009 - 05:50 PM

@Leber: You say buffing envenom in 3.2.2, in what way?


He means that in 3.2.2 with 3/3 MP you do not consume Deadly Poison when using Envenom. It will be a strong buff against plate teams since you can Envenom (ignores armor) and also have your DP ticking which also ignores armor.
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Posted 08 September 2009 - 06:23 PM

Why?


because kills dont come from me blowing my energy in pure dps. Coordinate stuns when your mage can actually cast + tricks + 3% crit > extra sustained dmg through the match, and the reduce poison duration lets you get restealths easier in rmp mirrors
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Posted 08 September 2009 - 06:46 PM

I think one thing people arent mentioning about what this spec also has is Ruthlessness. with good ruthlessness procs and mut crit you can do mut 4 point evisc mut 4 point evisc and reckful told me that is one of the reasons he loves 3/3ruth in this spec


You already could spec into Ruthlessness if you wanted. The discussion is moving 3 points from DW spec into MP.
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