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#41 Scarra

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Posted 08 September 2009 - 04:33 PM

For destruction:

12 gems with staff & picking up all the socket bonuses

23 x2
12/10crit x3
12/13 x7

2816 dmg, 126 pen, 23.91% crit, 963 res, 24724 hp w/o firestone & armor

23 x5
12/13 x7

2849 dmg, 126 pen, 23.26% crit, 959 res, 24574 hp w/o firestone & armor


Good information but i'm probably not going to add full offensive stats onto the main thread.

Just going to leave it at possible spell penetration alternatives
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#42 Malacothdai

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Posted 08 September 2009 - 06:52 PM

2200 haste staff & 1800 haste staff both have more haste than the equivalent crit/spirit/hit staves

offhand is still 300 pts

assuming the extra haste holds, would it make sense for destro to go haste staff instead of crit for the extra 16 haste & 16 res?
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#43 Scarra

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Posted 08 September 2009 - 06:55 PM

Really depends if you are stacking haste.

If you aren't and just stacking SP with crit offset pieces then 120 haste isn't going to do much for you off the 2h

Going to buy the offhand every 2 hours and then just wait to see if blizzard fixes the price. If they don't ill sell the offhand and get weapon in 3 weeks. If they do i'll sell the the offhand for 1100~ arena points and be way above the curve
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#44 Malacothdai

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Posted 08 September 2009 - 07:26 PM

More #'s

Haste Staff compared with haste 1h/oh, including 23 sp red gem, 18 ench, & 2 socket bonus

Staff:

+ 47 stam
+ 2 int
- 51 spell power
+ 28 res
+ 28 haste

Non haste options are:

+ 47 stam
+ 2 int
- 51 spell power
+ 12 res
+ 12 crit/spirit
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Posted 08 September 2009 - 08:07 PM

How important is the 130 cap as destro?
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Posted 08 September 2009 - 08:51 PM

i'd still say pretty important to at least hit 75

Destro still uses fear as the primary CC and only your focus target and mages will have CoE so you still require 130 against priests / SR pallies

I'd definitely shoot for 130 as destro too.
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Posted 08 September 2009 - 08:52 PM

Thing with non 2h 's is that you can buy both a penetration and a haste offhand and swap them out against teams.

pretty sure i'm going to do that this season once i get enough points
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Posted 09 September 2009 - 02:23 AM

How important is the 130 cap as destro?


Pretty important. Fear and shadowfury resists really suck :P Also since pets get our spell pen I see no reason to go for anything under 130.
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Posted 10 October 2009 - 12:00 AM

nothing wrong with gemming in excess of 130 for the sake of mages, there are plenty of them in 3v3 and 5s. i personally feel my gemming is the best, except when i play aff i am going to get an additional +12 sp, +10 haste in my shoulders rather than resil... perhaps put a karmaa's in my chest to make up for the loss.
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#50 Scarra

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Posted 10 October 2009 - 12:47 AM

Except when you go against teams without mages you have a lot of extra spell penetration left over.

It's already been covered (maybe not in this thread) that you should just itemswap your wand/offhand into spell pen to go over the cap when you fight certain teams with mages.
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#51 Ravnac

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 02:37 PM

S7-Affliction with SP / Haste-Focus.

Imo the best way to socket as Jewelcrafter / Inscriptioner.

130 Penetration / 3015 SP unbuffed / 967 Resilience / 439 Haste. Second Trinket is kinda crap, you should use Illustration of the Dragon Soul or sth like that.
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#52 Renn

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 07:15 AM

wow thats really nice
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Posted 27 October 2009 - 07:19 AM

terence you mean
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#54 Scarra

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 07:59 AM

S7-Affliction with SP / Haste-Focus.

Imo the best way to socket as Jewelcrafter / Inscriptioner.

130 Penetration / 3015 SP unbuffed / 967 Resilience / 439 Haste. Second Trinket is kinda crap, you should use Illustration of the Dragon Soul or sth like that.


I actually hadn't messed around too much with JC gems because I'm not a JC.

I've done some math and you gain 1 sp and 1 spell pen. Looks ideal actually. I'll update the original.
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#55 Domesauce

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 11:51 AM

that's not hit capped, you need 20 more, pretty sure sp/hit in yellow sockets is the way to go. looks perfect otherwise though, didn't think of using jc pen gem in belt
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#56 Dieszel

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 07:14 PM

anyone got a chardev made for destro focused on haste offets? I couldn't find one.
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Posted 01 November 2009 - 01:16 PM

Updated with JC + cloak enchants.

TY richnewman for the exact 130
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Posted 18 November 2009 - 12:06 AM

yes i agree
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Posted 26 November 2009 - 06:18 PM

anyone got a chardev made for destro focused on haste offets? I couldn't find one.


heres one i made but im a eng/chant so that changes my penetration stuff some

http://www.chardev.org/?profile=322582
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Posted 11 December 2009 - 11:47 PM

For Tailorers / Engi one solution:

OH 67SpellPen + 25SpellPen gems x2 and 12SP+13SpellPen gem = 130SpellPen!

Just take the Wand for Haste, at least im going to do when get some points more meh...
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