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#1 nim

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 12:04 PM

What I'm looking at so far. The gems don't feel quite right, but I don't want to end up using the Spell Pen off-hand, way too much Penetration on it.

Khadgar's Hood of Triumph (SP/Resil Enchant, Crit Mega, SP/Pen in Blue)
Wail of the Valkyr (SP/Hase in Yellow)
Khadgar's Shoulderpads of Triumph (SP/Resil Enchant, SP/Pen in Blue)
Jaina's Radiance (+39 SP in Red)
Relentless Gladiator's Silk Raiment (Resil Enchant, SP is Red, SP/Haste in Yellow)
Relentless Gladiator's Cuffs of Alacrity (SP Enchant)
Khadgar's Gauntlets of Triumph (SP Enchant, +39 SP in Red)
Relentless Gladiator's Cord of Alacrity (SP/Pen in Blue, SP in Colorless)
Relentless Gladiator's Silk Trousers (SP/Stam enchant, SP in Ren, +43 Pen in Blue)
Relentless Gladiator's Treads of Alacrity (Stam/Speed Enchant, +hit in Yellow)
Nebula Band (SP Enchant, SP/Haste in Yellow)
Band of Deplorable Violence (SP Enchant, SP/Haste in Yellow)
Reign of the Unliving
Scale of Fates
Relentless Gladiator's Blade of Celerity (SP Enchant, SP/Stam in Blue)
Relentless Gladiator's Compendium
Relentless Gladiator's Piercing Touch

Stam 22133
SP 3060
Haste 706 (21.53%)
Crit 495 (16.81%)
Pen 118
Resil 564

Sucks that there's no good rings above ilevel 226.

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Edit: As requested here are some gear recommendations for people who only have access to 25, 10 or no raid instances. These are all thrown together pretty quick, if you have any ideas for changes let me know. Note that all sets are at or slightly over hitcap and assumed to be using JC/Enchanting.

25-Man Setup: Pretty much the same as the Hardmode, but all the 258 items are down graded to 245. Also a little over hitcap and you lose Jaina's Radiance. :(

Khadgar's Hood of Triumph (245) (SP/Resil Enchant, Crit Mega, SP/Pen in Blue)
Wail of the Valkyr (245)
Khadgar's Shoulderpads of Triumph (245) (SP/Resil Enchant, SP/Pen in Blue)
Relentless Gladiator's Cloak of Subjugation (Pen Enchant)
Relentless Gladiator's Silk Raiment (Resil Enchant, +39 SP in Red, SP/Haste in Yellow)
Relentless Gladiator's Cuffs of Alacrity (SP Enchant)
Khadgar's Gloves of Triumph (245) (SP Enchant, +39 SP in Red)
Relentless Gladiator's Cord of Alacrity (SP/Pen in Blue, SP in Colorless)
Relentless Gladiator's Silk Trousers (SP/Stam enchant, SP in Ren, +43 Pen in Blue)
Relentless Gladiator's Treads of Alacrity (Stam/Speed Enchant, SP/Haste in Yellow)
Nebula Band (SP Enchant, SP/Haste in Yellow)
Relentless Gladiator's Band of Ascendancy (SP Enchant)
Reign of the Unliving (245)
Scale of Fates
Relentless Gladiator's Blade of Celerity (SP Enchant, SP/Stam in Blue)
Relentless Gladiator's Compendium
Relentless Gladiator's Touch of Defeat

Stam 22083
Spell 2922
Haste 614 (18.72%)
Crit 447 (15.77%)
Pen 118
Resil 664

Change from 258:

Stam -50
Spell -138
Hase -92
Crit -48
Pen +0
Resil +100

Misc: You lose abouot 250 damage on the Reign proc going from 258 to 245.

10-Man Setup: More down grading and no Reign of the Unliving or Scale of Fates, which is maybe the biggest loss between any of the sets.

Hood of Fiery Aftermath (245) (SP/Resil Enchant, Crit Mega, SP/Pen in Blue)
Relentless Gladiator's Pendant of Subjugation
Khadgar's Shoulderpads of Conquest (232) (SP/Resil Enchant, SP/Pen in Blue)
Relentless Gladiator's Cloak of Subjugation (Pen Enchant)
Relentless Gladiator's Silk Raiment (Resil Enchant, +39 SP in Red, SP/Haste in Yellow)
Relentless Gladiator's Cuffs of Alacrity (SP Enchant)
Khadgar's Gauntlets of Conquest (232) (SP Enchant, +39 SP in Red)
Relentless Gladiator's Cord of Alacrity (SP/Pen in Blue, SP in Colorless)
Relentless Gladiator's Silk Trousers (SP/Stam enchant, SP in Ren, +43 Pen in Blue)
Relentless Gladiator's Treads of Alacrity (Stam/Speed Enchant, SP/Haste in Yellow)
Nebula Band (SP Enchant, SP/Haste in Yellow)
Relentless Gladiator's Band of Ascendancy (SP Enchant)
Battlemaster's Ruination
Titan-Forged Rune of Audacity
Relentless Gladiator's Blade of Celerity (SP Enchant, SP/Stam in Blue)
Relentless Gladiator's Compendium
Relentless Gladiator's Touch of Defeat

Stam 22143
Spell 2882
Haste 614 (18.75%)
Crit 375 (14.21%)
Pen 118
Resil 714

Change from 258:

Stam +10
Spell -178
Hase -94
Crit -120
Pen +0
Resil +150

Misc: No Reign and no Scale. So no 2k damage on every third crit or 432 Haste clicky. :(

PvP Only: Well, not quite. The helm is an emblem reward, but it really is worth it. Just do the heroic daily quest every day until the season starts and you should have nearly enough badges to get it.

Hood of Fiery Aftermath (245) (SP/Resil Enchant, Crit Mega, SP/Pen in Blue)
Relentless Gladiator's Pendant of Subjugation
Relentless Gladiator's Silk Amice (SP/Resil Enchant, SP/Haste in Yellow)
Relentless Gladiator's Cloak of Subjugation (Pen Enchant)
Relentless Gladiator's Silk Raiment (Resil Enchant, +39 SP in Red, SP/Haste in Yellow)
Relentless Gladiator's Cuffs of Alacrity (SP Enchant)
Relentless Gladiator's Silk Handguards (SP Enchant, SP/Pen in Blue)
Relentless Gladiator's Cord of Alacrity (SP/Pen in Blue, SP in Colorless)
Relentless Gladiator's Silk Trousers (SP/Stam enchant, SP in Ren, +43 Pen in Blue)
Relentless Gladiator's Treads of Alacrity (Stam/Speed Enchant, SP/Haste in Yellow)
Titan-Forged Band of Ascendancy (SP Enchant)
Relentless Gladiator's Band of Ascendancy (SP Enchant)
Battlemaster's Ruination
Titan-Forged Rune of Audacity
Relentless Gladiator's Blade of Celerity (SP Enchant, SP/Stam in Blue)
Relentless Gladiator's Compendium
Relentless Gladiator's Touch of Defeat

Stam 23533
Spell 2898
Haste 500 (15.24%)
Crit 342 (13.10%)
Pen 118
Resil 898

Change from 258:

Stam +1400
Spell -162
Hase -206
Crit -153
Pen +0
Resil +334

Misc: Still no Scale or Reign.
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#2 Opix

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 12:36 PM

full pvp + t9 helm + reign of the unliving

I'll probably get both the spell pen and haste oh/wand then swap depending on the team

564 resil seems really low to me especially with how much damage is going up next season
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#3 nim

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 12:43 PM

564 resil seems really low to me especially with how much damage is going up next season


We already tank like ass when caught flat fotted, can't see an extra 150 Resil changing that.

Anyway, easy enough to swap in a couple PvP items if you're getting raped too hard.
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Posted 19 August 2009 - 12:45 PM

Hope it becomes worth it using actual pvp gear instead of pve sometime in the near future. :/
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Posted 19 August 2009 - 12:52 PM

Should be very interesting to see if the two versions of Reing of the Unliving can be used together (the tooltips hints a Shards being stacked with one and Motes being stacked with the other one), human mages should start hoping! :D

Other then that, I think you should consider this ring. You'll lose 20 crit rating (and all that spirit), but you'll get 10 more haste and up your hit from 4% to 5.4%.
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Posted 19 August 2009 - 12:54 PM

fuck mages are op.. 22133 stamina? thats overpowered.. :F
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Posted 19 August 2009 - 02:14 PM

3k sp + 700 haste? What the hell..
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Posted 19 August 2009 - 02:16 PM

how much hit rating?
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#9 Geglash

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 03:45 PM

86 from head, 20 from a gem. (106 rating, converts to ~4.04% hit)
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Just stop making videos -.-


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Posted 19 August 2009 - 04:28 PM

dear god i need to start raiding again

id change band of deplorable violence and get the 2h instead of 1h+oh
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#11 nim

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 05:13 PM

id change band of deplorable violence and get the 2h instead of 1h+oh


But what other ring is there? Deplorable has a socket and a ton of spell power. Sure it lacks Haste, but the set already has 700+ how much more do you need?
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Posted 19 August 2009 - 05:30 PM

I wish I raided on my mage
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Posted 19 August 2009 - 06:18 PM

I'm glad to see my Feral will keep two-shotting mages and they'll still be complaining about it. I wonder the fuck why.
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Posted 19 August 2009 - 06:36 PM

that's fucking disguting
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Posted 19 August 2009 - 06:39 PM

pve gear is OP

wish i could touch the op's stats
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Posted 19 August 2009 - 06:59 PM

Some of the gear mentioned in the original post will be extremely difficult to obtain if Blizzard does the same thing as Ulduar hard modes, will probably take a top 40 guild about 6-8 weeks to clear it. The cape itself, I would give it about 2 months before anyone clears it, and don't even think a run of the mill guild will clear it in this expansion.

You have to be realistic about your gear plans, you can run 10 man hard modes, pick up the haste belt that has extremely high haste/hit, off the earlier boss, can't imagine this being too difficult.


For the gear set that I've made, it will be:
4p relentless, WG haste pants
PvP haste neck, bracers, boots
10-man PvE belt
WG haste ring, frozen loop
WG SP PVP trinket, normal mode-TLC
MH+OH, haste wand

These are just estimates, but it should be around:
23.5k hp
800 resil
550 haste
2900 SP
4% hit

I think MH+OH will be just as effective since you'll be able to use the haste OH, and swap out for furious spell pen OH when you need it.
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Posted 19 August 2009 - 07:22 PM

4pt9
10-man PvE belt
frozen loop
WG SP PVP trinket, normal mode-TLC


These are just estimates, but it should be around:
23.5k hp
800 resil


Really? That sounds too good to be true to me.

edit: Oh, I guess you must have meant 4p relentless, not t9.
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Just stop making videos -.-


JK i havent watched it i just like to conform.

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 07:50 PM

Should be very interesting to see if the two versions of Reing of the Unliving can be used together (the tooltips hints a Shards being stacked with one and Motes being stacked with the other one), human mages should start hoping! :D



The trinket has a "Unique," tag on it and both the 245 and 258 have the same name. I think it's unlikly you'll be able to use both as once.

Other then that, I think you should consider this ring. You'll lose 20 crit rating (and all that spirit), but you'll get 10 more haste and up your hit from 4% to 5.4%.


That ring does not have haste on it. Also the benifits of +hit over 4% are pretty limited.

that's fucking disguting


Dude! It's totally ok to have PvE itemization that's 7-13 ilevels higher than PvP gear, what could go wrong!

Some of the gear mentioned in the original post will be extremely difficult to obtain if Blizzard does the same thing as Ulduar hard modes, will probably take a top 40 guild about 6-8 weeks to clear it. The cape itself, I would give it about 2 months before anyone clears it, and don't even think a run of the mill guild will clear it in this expansion.

You have to be realistic about your gear plans, you can run 10 man hard modes, pick up the haste belt that has extremely high haste/hit, off the earlier boss, can't imagine this being too difficult.


Well, I did say "Optimal" and I personally will have access to it (dragon slaying ho!), but I take your point.

The good news is that a lot of the gear scales down pretty easy. The t9 set for example has 10-man (i232), 25-man (i245), and Hardmode (i258) versions. Things like Reign or Wail will have normal mode copies that, while not as good, are still pretty awesome.

Maybe when I'm bored later I'll cook up sets for people who only have access to 10 or 25 mans.

I really feel like Mages are the most gear dependant class in the game right now. We need PvE gear to trim our surivability (which is excessive a lot of the time) and gain the damage we're lacking.
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Posted 19 August 2009 - 08:18 PM

can someone link me both versions of the lightning capacitor 2.0
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Posted 19 August 2009 - 08:24 PM

fucking hell.
I so wish I was human sometimes so I can go double trinket QQ
oh yeah and those stats are fucking disgusting too
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