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#41 demonfear

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Posted 11 August 2009 - 01:28 AM

why do people keep comlaining about the flash of light hot? It gets double dipped by MS effects and gets overidden by non-crits

holy/prot flash of lights hit for like 6.7k crits and 4.5k non-crits

with MS that is 3.35k crits and 2.25k non crits

the hot should be 3.35k or 2.25k but then you have to count MS AGAIN! so it is 1.675k or 1.125k over 12 secs.

If you crit and then you don't crit, the noncrit heal will be counted for the hot b/c it was the second heal.

the hot effect ticks every second, so every second you're healing for either 140 hp or 94 hp..

140 hp or 94 hp every second is not going to save you..
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#42 fatdude

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Posted 11 August 2009 - 01:30 AM

Shh, prot/holy paladins heal instantly for OVER NINE THOUSAND regardless of MS, never run out of mana, have perma-bubble, perma-silence aura and can crit for 15k. Or so this thread would have you believe, lol.
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#43 Pedocows

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Posted 11 August 2009 - 01:31 AM

why do people keep comlaining about the flash of light hot? It gets double dipped by MS effects and gets overidden by non-crits

holy/prot flash of lights hit for like 6.7k crits and 4.5k non-crits

with MS that is 3.35k crits and 2.25k non crits

the hot should be 3.35k or 2.25k but then you have to count MS AGAIN! so it is 1.675k or 1.125k over 12 secs.

If you crit and then you don't crit, the noncrit heal will be counted for the hot b/c it was the second heal.

the hot effect ticks every second, so every second you're healing for either 140 hp or 94 hp..

140 hp or 94 hp every second is not going to save you..


No one plays holy/prot.

Don't belittle things.
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#44 demonfear

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Posted 11 August 2009 - 01:31 AM

LOL, sorry bro, stunning someone during a cast does actually stop them from finishing the spell. Thus it is an INTERRUPT on a 20 second CD from a healer, combined with the fact that its a freaking stun.

I'll grant you that it doesn't lock out any tree ANYMORE, but it most definitely can interrupt spells.


21 sec DR. the spell interupt was useful b/c if they trinket or get dispelled then they weren't able to cast anything for the remainder of the 3 secs.

Prot/holy is dumb but less and less people are abusing its weaknesses.
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Posted 11 August 2009 - 01:32 AM

No one plays holy/prot.

Don't belittle things.


3's and 5's which are gonna count next season

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prot / holy is going down
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#46 Sanosuké

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Posted 11 August 2009 - 01:33 AM

What a pointless thread, i'd be happy too play holy if it wasnt retardly underpowered, and still most healing classes bring much more than a prot pala, take the shield and the 20 sec stun, and give us the burst of a disc priest.
Or the cc of a druid, i wouldnt take a thing of shamans cause well they suck and needed buffing:P

Other than that yes, i agree prot is retardly overpowered, but after reaching 2500 as holy, and not ebing able to climb the ladders simply cause of mana wars, speccing prot and gaining 100 rating EASILY what do u expect people will do?
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Posted 11 August 2009 - 01:33 AM

3's and 5's which are gonna count next season

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prot / holy is going down


No one would complain about flash of light hot if prot/holy wasn't absurdly overpowered.
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Posted 11 August 2009 - 01:38 AM

No one would complain about flash of light hot if prot/holy wasn't absurdly overpowered.


The hot is not the main problem prot/holy has vs many other healers.

Edit : For the less bright ones among us.
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Posted 11 August 2009 - 01:45 AM

I sincerly doubt thats one of the main concern we should have about prot/holy:)


LOL WHAT
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#50 Sanosuké

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Posted 11 August 2009 - 01:48 AM

How is this not clear? That hot means fuck all compared too everything else, just read this thread and u'll understand.
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Posted 11 August 2009 - 01:49 AM

the hot is incredibly weak, go ahead and delete it from the game if that's what you're really crying about, it won't make a difference
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Posted 11 August 2009 - 01:50 AM

the hot is incredibly weak, go ahead and delete it from the game if that's what you're really crying about, it won't make a difference


This:)
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Posted 11 August 2009 - 01:50 AM

I was actually boggling at your comprehension.
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#54 Sanosuké

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Posted 11 August 2009 - 01:56 AM

Ah you're one of those. Nice too know:)

No need to make this into a flamewar as u wouldnt stand a chance anyways.

So continue my dear, enlighten us with some more smart statements.
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Posted 11 August 2009 - 02:52 AM

Yeah, you and your large european vocabulary.
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Posted 11 August 2009 - 03:29 AM

Yeah, I am pretty pissed that Paladins are repeatedly being forced to play straight Holy even though it is retardedly underpowered in arenas compared to every other healer. Do you think I like the fact that every season paladins have to find some new weirdo hybrid spec to be able to be competitive in arenas? Yeah I do wish I rolled a rogue or druid when wrath came out so I could be getting easy glad every season without worry.


Yeah, I'm sure the reason you didn't get gladiator in s5 is because you played a crappy paladin and not a resto druid!
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Posted 11 August 2009 - 03:58 AM

Yeah, because I struggled all the way to 2k as holy paladin / fury warrior
Sorry, some of us actually had to try really hard (and ultimately fail because everyone else is rocketing up in rating with easymode comps/specs)

Vowed this season to say fuck it and just use the easy spec, yeah, I had a taste of what it's like to be a resto druid / disc priest, even if it was only for 2 months, it was still sweet
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Posted 11 August 2009 - 05:27 AM

Yeah, because I struggled all the way to 2k as holy paladin / fury warrior
Sorry, some of us actually had to try really hard (and ultimately fail because everyone else is rocketing up in rating with easymode comps/specs)

Vowed this season to say fuck it and just use the easy spec, yeah, I had a taste of what it's like to be a resto druid / disc priest, even if it was only for 2 months, it was still sweet


Yeah druids had it easy in s5, they were soooo carried by their class it was like so not funny at all
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Posted 11 August 2009 - 05:45 AM

Yeah, I am pretty pissed that Paladins are repeatedly being forced to play straight Holy even though it is retardedly underpowered in arenas compared to every other healer. Do you think I like the fact that every season paladins have to find some new weirdo hybrid spec to be able to be competitive in arenas? Yeah I do wish I rolled a rogue or druid when wrath came out so I could be getting easy glad every season without worry.


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Posted 11 August 2009 - 05:47 AM

he was comparing pally/warr to comps like pally/dk in s5

and then he was comparing prot pallies to disc priests and resto druids in s6..


No he said

Yeah I do wish I rolled a rogue or druid when wrath came out so I could be getting easy glad every season without worry.


In bold so you don't miss it again.
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