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#1 Dagin

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 03:30 AM

I'm tired of having to chose a pet that can be instant res that has crap defenses compared to one with better defenses(LOL) with no instant res. I hate the fact that my instant summon is on such a long cd compared to other classes. I hate the fact that people kill my pet with out setting up any cc on me or my healer. I hope this next patch is worth a fuck. :(

What do you think about the next patch and pets in general?

#2 nattehfat

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 03:54 AM

most funny thing is DK for which pet is only an addition has instant pet rez on 30s cd
nothing about pet changes, they ignored them for like 30 patches so why should it be different this time?

#3 Dacian

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 05:02 AM

You guys realize that BM pets DO NOT get the CD of Heart of the Phoenix lowered by Longevity either even though its a pet ability...


Seriously, can we get some Hunter fixes at the very least?

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 05:25 AM

Dacian said:

You guys realize that BM pets DO NOT get the CD of Heart of the Phoenix lowered by Longevity either even though its a pet ability...


Seriously, can we get some Hunter fixes at the very least?

Readiness doesn't reset it either (iirc, the CD yes, but not the debuff you get). Blizzard seems to have gone out of their way to make sure it would not be reset or reduced by any means.

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 05:28 AM

If DK pets get the stamina/resil buff that Lock pets (and hopefully Hunter pets) are getting, I'll be seriously annoyed.  If there was ever a class that didn't need a pet, its DK.

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 05:47 AM

A DK buddy of mine was just telling me that they have a Glyph that gives their pets like 40% more hp/ap from the DK's stamina (or something like that) and he stated that it gave his pet around 6.500 hp....

Why do we not have that........

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 12:40 PM

Lysander said:

If DK pets get the stamina/resil buff that Lock pets (and hopefully Hunter pets) are getting, I'll be seriously annoyed.  If there was ever a class that didn't need a pet, its DK.

Yep, DKs having a perma duration pet is /boggle
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Posted 06 July 2009 - 02:46 PM

Because ghouls are winning the games for DK's.

Or was it the 9K chain critting ...

nope, definetly the ghoul

Lighten up, ghouls have far less utility than hunter pets.
Increasing the ghoul rez cooldown would have little effect imo.

Also I FULLY support buffing hunter pets because they NEED their pets. (have hunter myself)

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 02:48 PM

Vander said:

Because ghouls are winning the games for DK's.

Or was it the 9K chain critting ...

nope, definetly the ghoul

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 02:51 PM

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Your skill at missing the point has increased (173)

Your useless posts have been increased. (7615)

Maybe BM should get an addition to a high tier talent that decreases pet rez with an extra few seconds? Problem here is u cant make it too easy to rez your pet or there will be no benefit from killing the pet if its back 1 second later or something.

So maybe the talent should mak pet rez instant but ADD a 30 or 60 second cooldown ?

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 03:17 PM

Vander said:

Because ghouls are winning the games for DK's.

Or was it the 9K chain critting ...

nope, definetly the ghoul

Lighten up, ghouls have far less utility than hunter pets.
Increasing the ghoul rez cooldown would have little effect imo.

Also I FULLY support buffing hunter pets because they NEED their pets. (have hunter myself)

Actually, yeah. As both a priest and a warlock the most annoying thing about DKs is the ghoul.

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 04:15 PM

Vander said:

Your useless posts have been increased. (7615)

Maybe BM should get an addition to a high tier talent that decreases pet rez with an extra few seconds? Problem here is u cant make it too easy to rez your pet or there will be no benefit from killing the pet if its back 1 second later or something.

So maybe the talent should mak pet rez instant but ADD a 30 or 60 second cooldown ?

Yea I mean forcing a player to stand still and cast a spell that has a large mana cost isn't a downside to losing a pet or anything.
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Posted 06 July 2009 - 04:16 PM

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Actually, yeah. As both a priest and a warlock the most annoying thing about DKs is the ghoul.

DKs should have their ghouls removed just because of the thousands of mindless fuck tards that have leap and stun on auto cast.
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Posted 06 July 2009 - 04:23 PM

Vander said:

Because ghouls are winning the games for DK's.

Or was it the 9K chain critting ...

nope, definetly the ghoul

Lighten up, ghouls have far less utility than hunter pets.
Increasing the ghoul rez cooldown would have little effect imo.

Also I FULLY support buffing hunter pets because they NEED their pets. (have hunter myself)

Yeah bro, because they TOTALLY never use gnaw to kill something.

DKs should not have pets superior to actual pet classes.
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Posted 06 July 2009 - 04:41 PM

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Yeah bro, because they TOTALLY never use gnaw to kill something.

DKs should not have pets superior to actual pet classes.


/nod

On the same note having a perma pet shouldn't even be an option.

I like the whole summon a temp pet idea for DKs as it's cool, army, garg, DRW, etc, If each tree had a special summon type pet that would be just fine.

Unholy = gargoyle
Blood = DRW
Frost = Ice ghoul or some shit

Perma pet = big mistake on blizzards part.
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Posted 06 July 2009 - 08:43 PM

Removing perma pets from unholy would decrease unholy skillcap.

What if unholy is built more around the ghoul? Like make unholy kind of like the DK beast master tree.

Anyway im heavily trailing off topic :) I should take this to the DK forums instead..

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DKs should not have pets superior to actual pet classes.

Just because the situational uptime on the ghouls is higher doesn't mean its superior.

But none of this will matter after the patch anyway when every single pet ingame will be near unkillable

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Actually, yeah. As both a priest and a warlock the most annoying thing about DKs is the ghoul.

Just out of curiosity, what part of the ghoul is so annoying?

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 10:42 PM

Remove perma pet, increase DK skill cap by reducing the damage across the board by 25-30% thus forcing intelligent use of Mind Freeze/Strangulate/Garg/ERW to land kills.  Yay I fixed the class.

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 11:10 PM

Vander said:

Just because the situational uptime on the ghouls is higher doesn't mean its superior.

For a warlock yes that is exactly the case.

Vander said:

But none of this will matter after the patch anyway when every single pet ingame will be near unkillable

Not true, if the resilience change will do what it is supposed to do then games will be longer and mana will be a bigger issue meaning having pets keeping healers in combat is gonna be quite important. None of the pets are unkillable. If you do coordinated attempts, witch you will actually have the time to do once games last longer, the pets will eventually die and having a 10 sec cast with a huuuge mana cost (or in case you are specced for it a 6 second cast with a tolerable manacost) as opposed to a completely free instant ress with a 30 sec cooldown is a difference of dimensions.

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Just out of curiosity, what part of the ghoul is so annoying?

I am trying to be nice here, but this just sounds ignorant to me. You have a for all intents and purposes completely unavoidable pet thanks to 45 second cd shield wall (?!) and effortless and unexhaustable summoning. It has an outstanding all-purpose tool in gnaw that is pretty much unrivalled by any other pet in the game and thanks to leap this is very very easy and consistent to use. On top of this it provides reasonable amounts of dps and is immune to both fear (unless specced for witch makes no sense at all) and polymorph (afaik, dont bash me if talented pets are polymorphable :().

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Posted 07 July 2009 - 08:59 AM

drole said:

I am trying to be nice here, but this just sounds ignorant to me.

Not trying to be annoying, it was a legitimate question :)

thx for the nice answer

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Posted 07 July 2009 - 09:02 AM

I don't have any problems with my pets :) Run with crab as MM and chimera as BM for 3v3, none of those has blood of the phoenix and I really don't have any issues with that.
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overpowered

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there are so many bad players at high ratings right now because they got a skill boost with 4.0.6 x.X




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