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#161 loony

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Posted 08 June 2009 - 09:49 AM

Cant those clueless ppl just leave
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#162 Powerslave

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Posted 08 June 2009 - 11:23 AM

why would you not have es up on yourself if hes trying to burst? I just ES whenever they tried to burst me and went ws whenever they had no cooldowns up

no cooldowns no kill
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#163 Strygwyr117

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Posted 08 June 2009 - 07:11 PM

no i could tank warriors on tr (ok no betrayers) till they got a ridiculous lucky crit streak (with imp healing wave spec)


Funny cause it took most fury warriors on live (aka above 2200+) about 3-4 globals after an intercept to down me from full to zip if I didn't have ES on myself


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why would you not have es up on yourself if hes trying to burst? I just ES whenever they tried to burst me and went ws whenever they had no cooldowns up

no cooldowns no kill


As Rice said, being able to predict a fury warrior's dmg is attempting to predict when he want to intercept off his target and destroy you to < 35% in two globals.

No decent warrior would be dumb enough to sit on a Shaman to feed him globes.

Playing against some random terribles in bgs in S5 on your Shaman =/= playing a warrior 2200+.
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Posted 09 June 2009 - 08:38 PM

warriors have gotten a lot better at tunneling it seems
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#165 Powerslave

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Posted 09 June 2009 - 08:53 PM

^



As Rice said, being able to predict a fury warrior's dmg is attempting to predict when he want to intercept off his target and destroy you to < 35% in two globals.

No decent warrior would be dumb enough to sit on a Shaman to feed him globes.

Playing against some random terribles in bgs in S5 on your Shaman =/= playing a warrior 2200+.


cant you see the deathwish and recklessness 2 globals before he intercepts? come on

I was talking more on the 1v1 side,in arena everything changes and you also have a partner
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Posted 09 June 2009 - 10:03 PM

cant you see the deathwish and recklessness 2 globals before he intercepts? come on

I was talking more on the 1v1 side,in arena everything changes and you also have a partner


No, I can't, because I'm probably spamhealing my partner getting raped.
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#167 Ramuuh

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Posted 10 June 2009 - 02:05 AM

Originally Posted by Keyo
hey you forgot something.

That would be like putting in lifebloom, rapture, and illumination for the comparisons as well. We're talking about big mana return cooldowns, not tidbits.


@keyo play a resto shaman

Put on water shield

And tell me how long you live vs any rogue/x team without blowing trinket

and btw if you did have watershield on for an entire match your mana regen is still shit compared to the other healers.

@ Rice - Exactly right except with lifebloom, rapture, etc you will NOT die as fast as a Shaman trying to water shield tank something thats not a pet.
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Posted 11 June 2009 - 09:06 PM

Personally I am ok with warriors hard countering us. That being said, I think most people get very frustrated with warriors because of the overwhelming pressure they put you under while limiting your healing to what is it, 20%ish?


Tell me how someone with a 2200 rating came up with this comment? Do people not think anymore?

It's 50% plus 25% from overpower ...

Nobody should overpower anybody, why do you think blizzard keeps changing things, new patches on top of new patches ... TO BALANCE THE GAME PERHAPS!?!

Jesus tap dancing christ, use your brain next time.
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#169 Powerslave

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Posted 11 June 2009 - 09:08 PM

is it news to you that some classes counter others?
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Posted 11 June 2009 - 09:45 PM

It's 50% plus 25% from overpower ...

So you're saying they reduce healing by 75%, I said they reduce healing by 80%... and you're going to fly off the handle because I was off by 5%?

Tell me how someone with a 2200 rating came up with this comment?

And then you're going to hate on my 5v5 team which is all of 3 days old at 85-28 when your 5v5 is 200 points lower with twice as many losses? Get over yourself.
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#171 Rice

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Posted 11 June 2009 - 09:46 PM

is it news to you that some classes counter others?


Unless you're a shaman.

Then you get countered by everything and counter nothing yourself.
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#172 Fadezz

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Posted 11 June 2009 - 10:22 PM

Unless you're a shaman.

Then you get countered by everything and counter nothing EXCEPT FOR other shamans.

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Posted 11 June 2009 - 10:26 PM

shamans dont counter other shamans sorry
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Posted 11 June 2009 - 10:30 PM

Shamans don't really counter each other, it's the other op classes you team up with who counter us (if you don't play 3x shaman you re bound to counter shamans).
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Posted 11 June 2009 - 10:30 PM

oh shamans counter prot paladins

here
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Posted 11 June 2009 - 10:38 PM

i meant as in purge is most effective against other shamans. some would say only effective against other shamans.
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Posted 11 June 2009 - 10:40 PM

Make shamanistic rage trainable, give it a 5 or 10 minute cool down. Then the enhancement talents can decrease it's CD and add the mana return to it.


- Above.

- Merge water shield and earth shield buffs

- Purge goes through dispel resistance (not counting undispellable things that only mass dispel can get rid of)


Now they can either choose better healing or better mana efficiency, druid games are more even (dispel resistance immune to purge), and they have an OH SHI- BUTTON
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