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#41 Hewters

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Posted 14 May 2009 - 11:42 AM

I know but what im saying is if you acess to BiS Pve gear for Arena, then it might be better to swap those in but i guess when i get full furious ill give this build a try.
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#42 Trikso

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Posted 14 May 2009 - 11:51 AM

I was playing with 5/5 deadly with deadly offsets and necklace from malygos25 quest. Ocassionally swapped to KT25 staff, usually wore 2x deadly axe. So I'm used to pvp gear, that's why I might consider this.
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Posted 14 May 2009 - 12:21 PM

This is a pretty sick idea, props to whoever thought it up.

nothing new tbh

lazypanda was reppin this shit since way back at s1
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Posted 14 May 2009 - 12:32 PM

I'm still pretty amazed by the 37k hp stated in the first post
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#45 Hewters

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Posted 14 May 2009 - 01:09 PM

wtb tauren racial w/o being a fat cow
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Posted 14 May 2009 - 01:13 PM

This is a pretty sick idea, props to whoever thought it up.


Woah, propsed by the allmighty, this is going up on the wall
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Posted 14 May 2009 - 01:32 PM

Drop surefooted
Get point of no escape 2/2
Get 1/3 Expose Weakness
???
Profit


Also could someone build the gearsetup in http://www.chardev.org/?c ?


I really see no point in speccing point of no escape I find myself using freezing trap way more than frost trap.
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#48 Trikso

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Posted 14 May 2009 - 02:15 PM

I really see no point in speccing point of no escape I find myself using freezing trap way more than frost trap.


It was a response to the post above it, where the guy complained about losing the point of no escape.
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Posted 14 May 2009 - 02:32 PM

It was a response to the post above it, where the guy complained about losing the point of no escape.


Personally with his build I don't see why you would want to lose EW.

Drop Surefooted and go down to 1/3 Hunting Party. Spec into 2/3 EW and 4/5 Master Tactician. Looks good to me, I might try it.
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Posted 14 May 2009 - 02:37 PM

Im only doing 1/3 EW atm, works just fine imo...
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Posted 14 May 2009 - 02:42 PM

But maaan I wanna try this sooo bad. Im gonna wait for a couple of you to do the 30k Hp thing and let me know how it goes in 2's and 3's until I go full out into re-gemming and enchanting, cause im a jew like that lol
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Posted 14 May 2009 - 04:16 PM

Can't see it making a difference at all in 2s. Healer will still eventually go oom while you just tank damage if you dont know how to kite. At least whats going for us atm is being able to unload damage on the assault. With current stats. Also wouldnt a diff trinket be better to use than greatness? Kinda gimping your main stat. (agi)

Could quite possibly be amazing in 3s but yeah. Personally im not too interested in this idea nor do i wanna regem and enchant when ive already invested alot into what I currently have.

So if anyone is successful and willing please do share ^^
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Posted 14 May 2009 - 05:20 PM

nothing new tbh

lazypanda was reppin this shit since way back at s1


No he wasn't if you don't know what we're talking about don't post.
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Posted 14 May 2009 - 05:56 PM

Lysander, can you post when you've played some with it? How it works out and stuff...And how much ap does your pet have?
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Posted 14 May 2009 - 06:12 PM

I'm barely breaking 29k when I try to gem / enchant for stamina, maybe bcuz I have jwc + engi

edit : 4155 ap, 31% crit, 703resil, 2061 stamina
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Posted 14 May 2009 - 06:41 PM

A few reason why stacking stam is a bad idea for Hunters.

With the new Gear out now Players are getting more resil and more stam. This means we need to raise our Damage as much as we can to make up for the lower damage dealt on high resil targets.

I see most of you saying that in full stam gems in furious is awesome. yes this would allow you to have 35k+ But in full furious you should also have around 5k ap with hawk. over all that's about a 700ap loss. Dont forget your not only losing the AP bust also Crit.
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Posted 14 May 2009 - 06:46 PM

It's definitely worth trying.
I have 4300 unbuffed AP in 5/5 deadly with all furious offsets and AP bm+ AP insignia , so if someone can get 7k HP more than me and still have simillar stats, I am curious how will it work out for him.
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Posted 14 May 2009 - 06:56 PM

A few reason why stacking stam is a bad idea for Hunters.

With the new Gear out now Players are getting more resil and more stam. This means we need to raise our Damage as much as we can to make up for the lower damage dealt on high resil targets.

I see most of you saying that in full stam gems in furious is awesome. yes this would allow you to have 35k+ But in full furious you should also have around 5k ap with hawk. over all that's about a 700ap loss. Dont forget your not only losing the AP bust also Crit.


Really this isn't true. Using chardev, full furious with Delicate in Red, Lucent in yellow, and Stormy in blue (delicate in weapon blues), I come up with this:

4481 AP
hit cap
33 crit
25991 HP

Compared to previous numbers, we are basically trading 150 AP and 2% crit for somewhere near 4k HP. I think that is a worthwhile trade given how easily Hunters are swapped to once trinket is down.

I'll grant you this:

if you have access to top level pve gear, you can probably put together a better gear set by combining a few great PVE pieces with PVP pieces.

if not, this is definitely a good option using full furious gear.. its a tradeoff, but its nowhere near as large a tradeoff as some make it out to be.


And finally.. if you're so worried about having a bit less AP, swap the battlemaster's for an AP trinket. I'd rather have extra HP during a stunlock swap than extra AP during a non-critical burst opportunity. Think about it.

It doesn't really cost that much to try either. Stam gems cost barely anything (10g on my server) and if you don't like it, when you get your Furious gear just put normal gems in that.
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Posted 14 May 2009 - 07:10 PM

This makes me wondering, i got a half done list of items from ulduar, that are worth using in pvp . You think i should post it?
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Posted 14 May 2009 - 07:16 PM

I was missing one enchant on my last chardev. It is actually a 250 AP loss, not ~180. I was missing the +75 AP 22 Crit leg enchant. Just FYI.
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